What's the chance we have a trade down partner now?

[bakes781]

With Aiyuks contract deadline approaching I figured I would bump this thread back up.

I know a lot of you aren't satisfied with Diggs as the solution to our WR problem. So what would you be willing do part with for Aiyuk?

 

[Clonamery]

With Aiyuks contract deadline approaching I figured I would bump this thread back up.

I know a lot of you aren't satisfied with Diggs as the solution to our WR problem. So what would you be willing do part with for Aiyuk?

Nothing. Money offered (4yrs/$120M) but went back to SF. Doesn't want the cold, Vrabel discipline or the taxes. (Yeah, I know Vrabel wasn't coach at the time.)

 

[Patriot Missile]

With Sanders reportedly slipping, Carter and Hunter likely off the board, and Will Campbell a mid round pick at best, it's hard to imagine why a team would want to trade up to 4.

Can you think of a plausible scenario for a Team trading up?

Some things have changed since the original post.

According to most reports Sanders had a very good pro day. Not sure if it is enough to sway one of the 3 teams in front of us to pick differently? But a good workout nonetheless which may bring someone up from above us.

Sounds nuts and probably not true but Cimini is speculating that Breece Hall could be moved because Jets like Jeanty. They could be a leap frog if true. Doubt it though, makes no sense.

I’m also not counting out Chicago or Carolina for Jeanty or one of the tackles.

To be honest, if the Patriots wanted to make some waves they’d be smart to bring him in for a 30 visit creating buzz to put the Raiders on edge. That might be enough to create a trade back.

Wouldn’t be surprised if the Patriots just didn’t draft him outright tbh.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Nothing. Money offered (4yrs/$120M) but went back to SF. Doesn't want the cold, Vrabel discipline or the taxes. (Yeah, I know Vrabel wasn't coach at the time.)

By patching together various reports, it appears that Aiyuk tore his ACL, MCL, and said there was meniscus damage. No team will trade for him at this time.

 

[bakes781]

Saints look to be in serious need at QB

 

[manxman2601]

Saints look to be in serious need at QB

Or will they suck for Manning?

 

[Clonamery]

Or will they suck for Manning?

Probably not a choice.

 

[State]

 

[State]

The chances of a perfect trade back to 9, receiving 40, and some other sugar just went up exponentially.

Can take Will Campbell there. Nice turn of events. — if you’re a Patriots fan. Saints fans are upset. Did their starting QBs hide a shoulder injury until his $40 million was guaranteed?

 

[Clonamery]

The chances of a perfect trade back to 9, receiving 40, and some other sugar just went up exponentially.

Can take Will Campbell there. Nice turn of events. — if you’re a Patriots fan. Saints fans are upset. Did their starting QBs hide a shoulder injury until his $40 million was guaranteed?

I'm thinking suck for Manning. Why trade up? Take a QB with 40 if you feel that or build your OL. Trading up? For what reason? You mean Sheduer at #4? Absolutely mental.

 

[State]

Absolutely mental.

Or desperate. People do crazy things when they’re like that. Like sailors in port giving away months’ worth of pay fora brief fling with a hooker.

 

[bakes781]

The chances of a perfect trade back to 9, receiving 40, and some other sugar just went up exponentially.

Can take Will Campbell there. Nice turn of events. — if you’re a Patriots fan. Saints fans are upset. Did their starting QBs hide a shoulder injury until his $40 million was guaranteed?

Olave?

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Did their starting QBs hide a shoulder injury until his $40 million was guaranteed?

Of course he did.

 

[mgteich]

The chances of a perfect trade back to 9, receiving 40, and some other sugar just went up exponentially.

Can take Will Campbell there. Nice turn of events. — if you’re a Patriots fan. Saints fans are upset. Did their starting QBs hide a shoulder injury until his $40 million was guaranteed?

The jets or someone else will take Campbell before 9.

I'm not saying that we should refuse the trade, but it is very possible that Campbell will be gone (Membou also).

 

[zimmy]

I’m not that keen to go down to 9. Have to come out of the 1st with one of Campbell, Membou or Walker imv. Could easily see they all come off the board between 6-8.

 

[Rdforty2]

I’m not that keen to go down to 9. Have to come out of the 1st with one of Campbell, Membou or Walker imv. Could easily see they all come off the board between 6-8.

I'm actually OK with it. I dont think those 3 are the only viable options.

You get to 9, and TMac becomes a viable option. So do Warren and Jihaad Campbell. Maybe even Jeanty.

Personally, if the staff loves Simmons or Conerly, screw it - take them. You moved down and got extra picks to still take your guy.

But that extra return allows you to move around as well. If you pick up the Saints 2 and take McMillan, you can package 38 and 69 to get back up to 22-25 to get Conerly or Simmons. And still have a 2 available to pick someone else early.

Or there's room for another trade down for even more picks. Move down to 15-18 and take Simmons, Conerly, or Banks.

And of course, there's still a good chance one of Membou or Campbell are available.

 

[zimmy]

Sure all of that is viable. I just don’t want a TE at 9, I dont want an OT coming off a very serious injury, and I’m not a big T-Mac fan. Conerly would be a bigger reach at 9 than Campbell would at 4. Plus, if they think Campbell is better than Conerly, I’m not keen to settle for the 4th best tackle in the draft.

It obviously gives us more capital to trade back up but there is no guarantee you can get back into the 1st and get the OT we want. The lowest I would trade down is 7 I think. There is no excuse for not coming away from the 1st round without the best tackle, whoever they think that is, or the defensive chess piece.

I think there are a few Patriots related tiers And I don’t like trading out of Tier 2 for a player in a later tier unless the Saints first next year was on the table.

Tier 1: Hunter and Carter (studs)
Tier 2: Campbell, Membou, Walker ( best players at positions of need )
Tier 3: Graham, Warren, Jeanty (good players at non-premium positions or where we don’t have immediate need)
Tier 4: Williams, McMillan (boom bust types)
Tier 5: next wave of tackles etc

 

[manxman2601]

Sure all of that is viable. I just don’t want a TE at 9, I dont want an OT coming off a very serious injury, and I’m not a big T-Mac fan. Conerly would be a bigger reach at 9 than Campbell would at 4. Plus, if they think Campbell is better than Conerly, I’m not keen to settle for the 4th best tackle in the draft.

It obviously gives us more capital to trade back up but there is no guarantee you can get back into the 1st and get the OT we want. The lowest I would trade down is 7 I think. There is no excuse for not coming away from the 1st round without the best tackle, whoever they think that is, or the defensive chess piece.

I think there are a few Patriots related tiers And I don’t like trading out of Tier 2 for a player in a later tier unless the Saints first next year was on the table.

Tier 1: Hunter and Carter (studs)
Tier 2: Campbell, Membou, Walker ( best players at positions of need )
Tier 3: Graham, Warren, Jeanty (good players at non-premium positions or where we don’t have immediate need)
Tier 4: Williams, McMillan (boom bust types)
Tier 5: next wave of tackles etc

I’m with you. Take Hunter/ Carter if they’re there otherwise take whichever of Campbell or Membou that they like. Going LT at 4 makes the rest of the draft a lot easier; no need to expend capital to trade up back into the first for the LT and we’re guaranteed the consensus best LT whichever they prefer.

If we’re going to trade back, do it from 38 where the there is a lot of talent that we can pick almost anywhere in round 2.

 

[Rdforty2]

Sure all of that is viable. I just don’t want a TE at 9, I dont want an OT coming off a very serious injury, and I’m not a big T-Mac fan. Conerly would be a bigger reach at 9 than Campbell would at 4. Plus, if they think Campbell is better than Conerly, I’m not keen to settle for the 4th best tackle in the draft.

It obviously gives us more capital to trade back up but there is no guarantee you can get back into the 1st and get the OT we want. The lowest I would trade down is 7 I think. There is no excuse for not coming away from the 1st round without the best tackle, whoever they think that is, or the defensive chess piece.

I think there are a few Patriots related tiers And I don’t like trading out of Tier 2 for a player in a later tier unless the Saints first next year was on the table.

Tier 1: Hunter and Carter (studs)
Tier 2: Campbell, Membou, Walker ( best players at positions of need )
Tier 3: Graham, Warren, Jeanty (good players at non-premium positions or where we don’t have immediate need)
Tier 4: Williams, McMillan (boom bust types)
Tier 5: next wave of tackles etc

What if they grade Simmons or Conerly as the #1 OT? Some do, and it makes sense. We need a true left tackle. The sheer athleticism these two have makes them excellent prospects. It's possible since they're seen as unquestioned LT's that they could be at the top of the board.

We don't knkw the teams board. If they move down from 4 to 9, it's clear they don't value the player they were going to pick at 4 as THAT good. They valued 9 plus other picks. So it would be that they don't see Campbell or Membou is the clear, running away top OT options.