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AJ - read your own post. You can't seem to understand why any fan would think that the mediocre play they've seen to date doesn't give them much, or in some cases, any chance to win a Lombardi.

Personally I hope the team can change the way its been playing - and hold hope they will. Personally I don't have any particular reason WHY I think that will happen - but I still hope it will.

But if someone is looking at the talent, performance and execution of play to date and doesn't think that bodes well for a Lombardi - I don't think they should be called (pick one or all) arrogant, ignorant or spoiled.

I don't agree with them, but I'm not going to pigeonhole them into the group you've put them in.

Each of them have their own particular reasons and deserves to be treated respectfully, especially by a moderator.

I'd again be interested in knowing why you DON'T think that the first 5 games indicates how they will continue to play - maybe I won't agree with your assessment, but I'm not going to call you "ignorant, arrogant or spoiled" if I don't.


But the question is, if Bruschi DID believe that not all of his teammates were giving 100% effort, can you not understand why Bruschi would choose not to call them out in the media?

That's the question - Deus has ruled that out. If Bruschi says it - its 100% true and if anyone believes otherwise they are calling Bruschi a liar... according to Deus.

That;s a helluva a black and white view in a game where gamesmanship requires that players be less than truthful with the media when it comes to a long list of issues, including injuries.

Now I wouldn;'t rule out that a player might actually WANT to call out his teammates in the media if they weren't giving 100% but I think that wouldn't be the first step - keep it in house first.

Personally I view the SD game as more about injuries and poor execution rather than not giving 100% - but I can't rule out that certain players weren't giving their all either. Others apparently can, just the way they view every word that comes out of a players mouth in media comments to be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

That makes no sense to me.


That is exactly my point (the first part, the second part is foolish)
So it doesn't look like as of today we have a great chance to win the SB. OK. It would be nice if we could feel like we did.
Based upon our record, we have a chance to compete this year. What we do in the next 11, not what we have done in the first 5 will determine that.

We aren't the favorites. We have played 2 very poor games, we have issues.
Ignorant means we think that doesnt happen to almost every team.
Arrogant means we think we are immune to it.
Spoiled means we are pissed off that we arent walking over every one every week.

We are 3-2 and have a season in front of us to see how far we can go. Yet many fans are turning on the team, ready to give up the season, and concluding we wont be successful in the next 11 games. Thats why I say whats the big deal. If your expectations, or demands are we are supposed to win the SB every year, this first 5 games is a big deal. If you hopes are that we win a SB every year, but you realize that is unrealistic, these first 5 games are not a big deal, they just mean we have 2 losses, and some issues to work on.


By the way I did not call anyone ignorant, arrogant, or spoiled, I ASKED what the mentality I am describing means. Feel free to offer a different description or adjective.
 
I cheer for the Pats.

My assessment is they will be 4-4 at the break, which is still ok. The schedule gets easier after Indy, Pittsburgh is the only really tough game left. They have a lot of divisional games left, this baby is not over. November is huge, three divisional games with two at home. Even if they are 5-5 after 10 games a nice run at the end may get them in to the playoffs. A win against the Colts would be almost as good as a superbowl, as would being a spoiler against the Jets / Dolphins / Bills. Still lots to cheer about.

The loses, they be ugly. The wins they be sweet, Go Pats.

Sun 11/9 Buffalo
Thu 11/13 NY Jets
Sun 11/23 at Miami
Sun 11/30 Pittsburgh
Sun 12/7 at Seattle
Sun 12/14 at Oakland
Sun 12/21 Arizona
Sun 12/28 at Buffalo

I'm not so impressed with Denver, and wouldnt chalk up a home loss to them just yet.
Indy is having as many problems as we are, are also 3-2 and barely squeaked out 2 of those wins in games they were outplayed. (They have exactly faced the toughest competition either)
4-4 would seem worst case, I seriously doubt we are losing to the Rams, but I certainly wouldn't call it likely, we have a very good chance against Denver and Indy.
 
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