Patriots Pregame Thread Week 3 discussion: Pitt @ NE

[Real fan 02]

Twin I get it.

Twin.. Frankenstein Dietrich wise was the pass rusher we relied on last season.. cement feet Bentley got hurt, ice skate Tavai, at LB.

 

[PatsFan2]

Twin.. Frankenstein Dietrich wise was the pass rusher we relied on last season.. cement fertilizer Bentley got hurt, ice skate Tavai, at LB.

The Roster have come very far way since. It's a shame we didn't get the First overall; thanks to the fired guy.

 

[Froob]

Honestly, we are at such throw **** at the wall on defense, I'd give Marcus Jones a shot covering Jaylen Warren. Dunno if he can actually tackle him, but least he'd stay with him.

 

[Froob]

The Roster have come very far way since. It's a shame we didn't get the First overall thanks to the fired guy.

Idk why you guys blame Mayo for that. He put in the third string QB and numerous backups. I blame Sean McDermott for playing for incentives instead of the win

 

[PatsFan2]

Honestly, we are at such throw **** at the wall on defense, I'd give Marcus Jones a shot covering Jaylen Warren. Dunno if he can actually tackle him, but least he'd stay with him.

Dam he's their best Receiver??

 

[sb1]

Idk why you guys blame Mayo for that. He put in the third string QB and numerous backups. I blame Sean McDermott for playing for incentives instead of the win

That was a disgrace. Ditto for the Chiefs in their week 17.

If I'm a coach playing a team doing that I would run up the score. Play all starters and hang a 70 spot on a team doing that and keep throwing deep until the clock says 0. Empty the playbook, go for 2 every time, no punting on 4th and short, onside kicks, put their QB in the turf on every play, everything. Disrespect my team I'll disrespect theirs.

 

[mike_usagisan]

All tbd, but I see the Chargers as in the top tier, and the Patriots and Raiders in the middle tier. During the week 1 game, from the opening drives LV had the upper hand and made many big plays, but I do think we'll catch up to them.

Chargers probably have the upper hand in that division with what's happening to the Chiefs. But the AFC with Bills and Ravens is still pretty stacked.

 

[BobDigital]

My thoughts before the season are here and i more or less stick by them.

Content Post Thread 'OT - Pittsburgh Steelers 2025 Breakdown'

Jun 21, 2025

OT - Pittsburgh Steelers 2025 Breakdown


Continuing my series on Potential WC teams, lets talk about the Steelers. They finished 16th in PPG on offense/23rd in YPG and 8th in PPG on defense/16th in YPG.



Notable players on Offense

Wilson was the main QB, but Fields also started 6 games to start the year. Their top pass catchers were Pickens as the clear #1. Freiermuth the TE with 650. Calvin Austin with 550. Then RBs Warren and Harris each caught around 300 yards. No young players to mention from the guys who played. Mike Williams was a disappointment and clearly a part of...

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One thing i didn't hit on enough i think (a little but not enough) is the lack of depth. If they have guys out just about anywhere it REALLY hurts. And they have guys out right now.

Hightower - Edge - Running mate of Watt and a huge part of their pass rush. This is one spot where they actually have depth... but you can't make up for a guy like Hightower not being there.
Harmon - DL - They are paper thin on the DL... also one of their back ups is nicked..
Ellioit - S - Since trading Fitz he is their #1 safety... and their guy beside him in Thornhill isn't what he use to be.
Poter - CB - Starting outside CB. Very important as they are kind of built for man.

So a lot of key injuries here.

One thing of note is how bad the OL has played this year when they were decent last year. Letting Moore walk and having last years 20th overall pick take that spot after coming back from his injury... has not gone well. IDK if it is just the injury or he is a bust. Shouldn't have let Moore walk. There other OT spot wasn't good before and hasn't improved... they have 4 of the same 5 guys coming back. This may be one of those 'straw that break the camel's back' situations. They had enough at the other 3 good spots to cover for a bad RG and LT. Suddenly RT becomes subpar and there just isn't enough to hold it together maybe? 3 guys holding 2 up is possible if they aren't next to each other... you can help the one on the edge a bit with a chip and others can cheat. But 2 can't cover for 3 even with help.

Add in Kaleb being a massive downgrade from Harris in the run game... now you have only Warren... and he can't be in for every play.

They didn't help out their only WR... have no depth and it shows. They are basically depending on Metcalf and Warren to be the offense behind a bad OL. They don't have much behind them Jonnu, Austin and Freiermuth just aren't enough. And for all the talk about their offense play in week 1... It really wasn't that good.

They got 2 FGs of 56 yards or more... you don't want to depend on that (i know their kicker is good but still). They didn't run well. 4 sacks given up. Lots of bad angles from D, guys left open, too much cushion on dump offs. Really it wasn't good defense at all. Add in the fumble at the 22 and they got a relatively easy 34 points by NFL standards. Getting that many points simply can't be brushed aside... but still... next game they didn't get such low resistance and they were held to 17. Which i think is more in line with what should be expected given their talent on that side of the ball.

As for their D... it isn't THAT bad. Their DL gets pressure... That needs to be given to them. Even without Hightower our OL will have a hard game. Also their DBs aren't as bad as they are being made out to be. Yes they have issues... but they do have talent... Look at the Seahawks game. Take away that free 7 points on the kick off fumble screw up by the rookie and they give up only 24. That is probably closer to where they are. I will not go into this game thinking this offense will role over this D. They aren't bad. They are hurting bad still have talent and a bad week 1 and some unlucky breaks week 2 make them look worse than they are... Take that 7 points out and remember that their offense left their D out to dry a lot... It took Seattle 11 drives to score 24 points and they forced 2 turnovers. That is pretty good D. That is the level i expect from them. Not elite elite.... but having some holes and weaknesses while also having play makers.

Overall i think the Pats offense will face a lot of resistance and it won't surprise me if they are held under 24. The key is to not let the many play makers on this Steelers D turn it over and for our D and DL in particular to smother their run game and get after Rodgers.

Don't give up anything easy... know where Metcalf and Warren are at all times and Rodgers will give up autosacks... there will be WRs unable to make plays after the catch and the run game will put them in bad down and distance. This will be a defensive game about whose offense makes the least mistakes while also taking advantage of the other teams weaknesses enough to score a bit when possible.

 

[Real fan 02]

The Roster have come very far way since. It's a shame we didn't get the First overall; thanks to the fired guy.

 

[PatsFan2]

At least he can tell his Grandkids he bamboozled the Patriots to make him HC. And he actually was the HC of Drake Maye for a year: Mayo definitely have some feathers in his cap.

 

[Thelonious]

I think we should win, and I think we will win.

What I don't know is whether my optimism is a delusion resulting from how much fun it was to watch the Miami game.

I have a feeling that at some point it will suddenly become evident that Aaron Rogers really is washed up. Maybe this is the week.

 

[Real fan 02]

At least he can tell his Grandkids he bamboozled the Patriots to make him HC. And he actually was the HC of Drake Maye for a year: Mayo definitely have some feathers in his cap.

Oh for sure.. and he got BB shipped out all while he was doing it.. maybe he can go an coach at Tennessee and learn ehat it takes to be a HC.

 

[mike_usagisan]

I think we should win, and I think we will win.

What I don't know is whether my optimism is a delusion resulting from how much fun it was to watch the Miami game.

I have a feeling that at some point it will suddenly become evident that Aaron Rogers really is washed up. Maybe this is the week.

Other than a few very good teams and a few very bad teams, there's a whole lot of middling teams. We're one of those. But it remains to be seen where in the order of middling teams we are.

 

[Vindicate]

That would be great if the end game was to always be slightly better than mediocre.

Ask Marvin Lewis and Andy Dalton what that was like. Eternal limbo, lower round picks that struggle to fill the shoes of better players as they leave, not a fun place to be as a team.

 

[Thelonious]

What's that even mean?

Other than a few very good teams and a few very bad teams, there's a whole lot of middling teams. We're one of those. But it remains to be seen where in the order of middling teams we are.

Yep. It'll fun to see where we sit. We don't have to make the playoffs or have double digit wins for this to be a season you can enjoy. It seems we just might be a "middling" team, and no one would have suggested that a year ago at any point after the second game.

 

[mike_usagisan]

Yep. It'll fun to see where we sit. We don't have to make the playoffs or have double digit winds for this to be a season you can enjoy. It seems we just might be a "middling" team, and no one would have suggested that a year ago at any point after the second game.

Though I am a bit worried that it took a mighty effort to beat the Dolphins, and they might not even be a middling team.

 

[Pacific Coast Patriot]

Though I am a bit worried that it took a mighty effort to beat the Dolphins, and they might not even be a middling team.

It's still a division rival, desperate for a win, on the road... in a place we've sucked for years.

Plus - Hill, Waddle and Achane without our top CB and D coordinator is no easy task.

Tua might be hot and cold but the last time he was healthy with that trio he dropped 70 points in one game and went 30 TD 4,600 yards.

There aren't really easy wins in the NFL too often.

 

[mike_usagisan]

It's still a division rival, desperate for a win, on the road... in a place we've sucked for years.

Plus - Hill, Waddle and Achane without our top CB and D coordinator is no easy task.

Tua might be hot and cold but the last time he was healthy with that trio he dropped 70 points in one game and went 30 TD 4,600 yards.

There aren't really easy wins in the NFL too often.

Agreed, but there's a good chance Miami starts sucking pretty bad this season.

 

[Thelonious]

Though I am a bit worried that it took a mighty effort to beat the Dolphins, and they might not even be a middling team.

Shhhh. We are new-age Pats fans. We are a happy people, almost no matter what. It's like HackySack: you just want to keep that joyful little bag airborne for as long as you can.

 

[signbabybrady]

So far watching Barmore and Milton has been quite entertaining. Between just how good they are and not watching 2 gap it feels like one of them makes the guy blocking them look like a ***** every play. And the numbers clearly shows that's resulting in a good amount of pressure.

And I don't mean to knock 2 gap it's just by nature more reactionary and just that watching Barmore and Milton get after it in a different way then we're used to has been entertaining and add in their obvious skill and we might just be onto something.