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Patriots Pregame Thread Week 16: Pats @ Bills. Only 3 games left of this dumpster fire

Pregame Discussion ahead of the LIVE game day discussion thread. The actual Game Thread will Open an hour ahead of kickoff.
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The sad thing is that the terrible Raiders almost beat the chiefs, the terrible panthers almost beat the eagles, but the patriots are going to get blown out.

That is why they are the worst team in the nfl.
 
You have a shelf of trophies, one of the all-time greatest coaches and quarterbacks, we're looking for 1 ring. There's a generation of Pats fans who knew nothing of losing. Imagine being a bills fan and having the patriots scenario for over 20yrs consecutively..... we basically sold out the stadium for those 20+yrs as well. What the bills did in the 90's and the patriots did for 20yrs is impressive. Mind you, Buffalo probably has most of the worst records on the books starting with how to imagine new ways to lose games. I'll never forget the time Bill had Matt Cassel punt on 3rd down in 2008 for 50+yds to the bills goal line... that is not a typo, on 3rd down. pats punt on 3rd down

I hope the bills win, but it's a divisional game and they are typically tough. Also, side note, I got to meet with head of grounds there regarding their hybrid practice fields because that type of athletic field is being brought down into collegiate and high school play, really nice people and enjoyed getting that kind of access.
I'm 47, yeah, I remember the mid 80's.
 
Pats open as +13 underdogs. Some places have it at +14

This is what the Bills have scored in each game since mid October: 34, 31, 30, 30, 30, 35, 42, 48

Gulp.
I think they will cover the 13. Their offense has been on fire in the second half of the season. They hate our guts from all the times we ROFL stomped them with Brady in charge. But we have a rookie this year and one of the worst OL and receiving corps in the league. It's not gonna be close.

Just hoping no injuries to Maye and no permanent damage to his ego. This has been an embarrassing year and the talent is clearly not up to snuff to support our stud young QB. We need a big talent infusion on offense. Every pick except for Drake May has looked like a FAIL from this year's draft. That's quite sad.

Who the hell are our scouts? Who is stacking our draft boards? It's like clown world with Patriots drafts over the last decade. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Gonzalez the only pro bowl caliber talent we've drafted in the past decade?
 


Good stuff

I just can't dislike JAllen, tweets as a 14yr old and all (which is why when my kid asks me why I won't give him accounts I tell him to prevent him from being a dumba$$). I'm rooting for him to win the SB.... or the Lions. I still hope he sucks donkey balls this week and the Pats win even if it messes with our draft positioning.
 
I am a Josh Allen fan as well. He seems like a genuinely good dude.
He is an opponent that you respect on and off the field. It seems like none of the current top tier QB's are truly hate able. Mahomes, Herbert, Burrow, Stafford, Jackson, Goff etc. all seem like decent people who aren't jerks and don't get into trouble off the field. The same can't be said of the next tier.
 
I find Mahomes pretty easy to dislike. Ever since he made the comment to Josh Allen about a refs call being the worst he has ever seen or something like that. Instead of just saying good he used it as an opportunity to basically say we would have won if not for that call. 100% **** that guy.
 
The Bills defense just needs to cover Henry and Pop.

The Pats don't have a weapon like St Brown.
Pop has been horribly used all season. There’s no creative plays to get the ball in his hands in space. He’s been on a milk carton at times and currently Kendrick Bourne is still our best receiver.

I think they just need to cover Henry/Hooper.
 
Maye will be top 5 as soon as the OL improves..





Holy **** those numbers confirm my already held belief that this is perhaps the worst offensive line I’ve ever seen in professional football.
 
He is an opponent that you respect on and off the field. It seems like none of the current top tier QB's are truly hate able. Mahomes, Herbert, Burrow, Stafford, Jackson, Goff etc. all seem like decent people who aren't jerks and don't get into trouble off the field. The same can't be said of the next tier.
I hate to discriminate, but Burrow frosting his tips and buying a batmobile gives me huge DB vibes.
 
I think they will cover the 13. Their offense has been on fire in the second half of the season. They hate our guts from all the times we ROFL stomped them with Brady in charge. But we have a rookie this year and one of the worst OL and receiving corps in the league. It's not gonna be close.

Just hoping no injuries to Maye and no permanent damage to his ego. This has been an embarrassing year and the talent is clearly not up to snuff to support our stud young QB. We need a big talent infusion on offense. Every pick except for Drake May has looked like a FAIL from this year's draft. That's quite sad.

Who the hell are our scouts? Who is stacking our draft boards? It's like clown world with Patriots drafts over the last decade. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Gonzalez the only pro bowl caliber talent we've drafted in the past decade?
C'mon man... Jaheim Bell had that one catch, and it was glorious. One more than JBaker, at least.
 
I find Mahomes pretty easy to dislike. Ever since he made the comment to Josh Allen about a refs call being the worst he has ever seen or something like that. Instead of just saying good he used it as an opportunity to basically say we would have won if not for that call. 100% **** that guy.
I feel like he has a great PR team, but we've seen the cracks in it with that moment and others. I also think the people he is surrounded by.. his father, his brother, his wife.. all douchebags of the highest order and he doesn't seem to do anything to reign them in. If I'm your cashcow and you're being an idiot, you're damn well gonna stop or you will be out on your ass.
 
Pop has been horribly used all season. There’s no creative plays to get the ball in his hands in space. He’s been on a milk carton at times and currently Kendrick Bourne is still our best receiver.

I think they just need to cover Henry/Hooper.
It’s sadly just due to the AVP offense which doesn’t really use the slot receiver much.

I’m sort of interested in the idea of bringing back McDaniels (under Vrabel) who obviously knows how to feature the slot receiver and got everything he could out of Welker and Edelman. Bourne also had a fairly solid season under him in ‘21 with only Jakobi Meyers across from him. Replace Meyers with Higgins and put Pop in the slot, and Maye throwing instead of Mac, and it would likely be decent. Bourne, Pop, Henry, Boutte, Stevenson all know the offense already so it would only need to be taught to a few guys. Also makes life easier on the OL. Probably hardest on Maye.
 
I hate to discriminate, but Burrow frosting his tips and buying a batmobile gives me huge DB vibes.
The hair style is not my favorite either, I blame his girlfriend. Burrow wouldn't be the first NFL QB to succumb to a bad haircut when trying to impress fashion models, LOL. The important thing, no cops, no lawsuits and his teammates seem to genuinely like him.

 
I find Mahomes pretty easy to dislike. Ever since he made the comment to Josh Allen about a refs call being the worst he has ever seen or something like that. Instead of just saying good he used it as an opportunity to basically say we would have won if not for that call. 100% **** that guy.
For the record, I sports hate Mahomes and pretty much any non NEP QB. Brady was universally hated for being so ****y and winning all the time. Compared to players like Watson, he seems like an ok person who would look great in red, white and blue.
 
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This game wont even be close.

The Pats lost by 6 last season under Bill Belichick.

Watch this debacle be a 21 point deficit. Kraft should start selling paper bags and have a build a bag kiosk at Gillete.
Great money making idea for Krafty! If a bottle of water is 6 bucks, how much can he charge for a bag?
 
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