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Patriots Pregame Thread Week 15 pregame: Chiefs @ Pats

Pregame Discussion ahead of the LIVE game day discussion thread. The actual Game Thread will Open an hour ahead of kickoff.
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KC will come in here with chip on shoulder….their defense is very good and they blitz a lot and successfully….with our wet paper bag OL…Zappe will be either running for his life or have no time to throw with receivers that have trouble separating at all. Our D may slow down Mahomes but has trouble getting pressure and sacks….I still see this as a KC win here….hope I am wrong!
We might be very overmatched especially our OL Interior I don't think we will be throwing much downfield.
 
Not debating the offside call, as Toney clearly lined up in the neutral zone, but I do understand why players and coaches are upset by the lack of consistancy with penalty calls.


I missed the game. So I am only going by the pictures. But in the second photo, the blue line and where the ball is doesn't see to be lining up. The blue line isn't always exact. Neither is the marker or the guy holding the down marker on the opposite side of the chains. It is possible that the defender is not in the neutral zone.

But on the top one, you can clearly see Toney is lined up in front of the ball.

Both are probably offsides, but from this angle I cannot definitively say the Bills defender is.
 
That's no where even near the worst calls in NFL history. It's a pre snap penalty. Pretty cut and dry.
He was 100% in the neutral zone.

If we want to talk about horrible calls, the reception/fumble by Murray at 10:30 in the 4th should have been incomplete. Instead, it was gift for the Bills.
 
Give Zapp KB and Douglas he'd have more to work with. Are we still going to play with essentially 1 RB.. it's a matter of time before Zeke goes down too.
Kevin Harris should start getting some reps, Zeke was probably aching for more work so they rode him last game. They should even it out eventually.

I’d love to get Douglas and Parker back for Zappe though. Douglas is their most explosive mobile get open in a phone booth type receiver.
 
Kevin Harris should start getting some reps, Zeke was probably aching for more work so they rode him last game. They should even it out eventually.

I’d love to get Douglas and Parker back for Zappe though. Douglas is their most explosive mobile get open in a phone booth type receiver.
Absolutely agree. I'm out on Parker he's unreliable. He has these issues his whole career for one reason or another he just isn't durable. The guy that I feel for is KB he is the play maker and chain mover. He's a guy that would be great right now. Harris Absolutely should be getting reps. I don't need to see anymore of ty Montgomery or any less.
 
Kelce "Generic Gronk" is retiring after this season and that's why Mahomes is crying up and down to have his Toney neutral zone TD count.

Funny part is that KC fans will be labeling Taylor Swift as the NFL Yoko Ono.
 
Kelce "Generic Gronk" is retiring after this season and that's why Mahomes is crying up and down to have his Toney neutral zone TD count.

Funny part is that KC fans will be labeling Taylor Swift as the NFL Yoko Ono.
Swift has more talent than Ono.
 
National media blasting Pat and the Chefs. And rightfully so. Pat says a penalty shouldn't be called because of such a great play by his teammates....

 
National media blasting Pat and the Chefs. And rightfully so. Pat says a penalty shouldn't be called because of such a great play by his teammates....

Cheeseburger Andy had no idea that Kelce would go Globetrotter free lance either.

If that TD stood, the media would never quit talking about it.
 
Cheeseburger Andy had no idea that Kelce would go Globetrotter free lance either.

If that TD stood, the media would never quit talking about it.
After watching the replay, that pass by Kelce was improvised. You can see Toney complaining after he ran his route, looked down and then didn't expect a Kelce pass to him.
 
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