Patriots Pregame Thread Week 13 MNF: Giants @ Pats

[PatsFanSince74]

Yes we need to bounce back from that devastating win.
You people are freaking crazy.

That's a good sound bite, but it doesn't change the fact that the TB12/BB Championship teams began playing their best at Thanksgiving and built momentum to make a run deep into January. Yes, it's obvious they won on Sunday but it's also worrying that they came away with zero points on eight plays inside the five yard line against a team they should have put away in the third quarter. As Vrabel said after the game, that's not going to win many games.

As fans, we can either take the approach that, with 10 W's, the 2025/26 Pats have already exceeded expectations and just enjoy the ride as long as it lasts, while the team plays with house money. Or, like some of us did in December/January of 2001/2002, begin to believe that last year's 5-11 (4-13) team might make some noise deep into January...and even February.

In other words, I don't think the team or the organization was happy about Sunday.

 

[DoubleDeluxe]

Flacco completed barely 50% hus oases for less than 10 yards per completion. They scored 13 offensive points and a net of 6.
They had 120 rushing yards which is about the league average. We average 112 and we had 107 and are ranked 19th. You are talking like we were gashed for 250 yards.

The Giants are a bad football team. They have pathetic defense and a below average offense that will probably be missing their best 3 players.

I don’t know what a cakewalk is. I care about winning the game, not style points.
The giants once in a while hang around before then give the game away. Thats what a bad team is.
You appear to be looking for a team that is 0-12 losing by 50 points each week before you have any confidence in our 10-2 best in the league team.

I fail to understand how people go through life afraid of being good.

You always have to jump to conclusions and end with such ridiculous statements.
It’s too bad, you can stay on track for a post or two, then have to make your grand proclamations.
It’s strange.

 

[Ring 6]

That's a good sound bite, but it doesn't change the fact that the TB12/BB Championship teams began playing their best at Thanksgiving and built momentum to make a run deep into January. Yes, it's obvious they won on Sunday but it's also worrying that they came away with zero points on eight plays inside the five yard line against a team they should have put away in the third quarter. As Vrabel said after the game, that's not going to win many games.

As fans, we can either take the approach that, with 10 W's, the 2025/26 Pats have already exceeded expectations and just enjoy the ride as long as it lasts, while the team plays with house money. Or, like some of us did in December/January of 2001/2002, begin to believe that last year's 5-11 (4-13) team might make some noise deep into January...and even February.

In other words, I don't think the team or the organization was happy about Sunday.

I’m curious. Do you really think that one game where they had a debacle in the red zone with penalties negating tds, etc and one time they just couldn’t punch it in and took a FG and won the game, means it’s going to happen every game? It’s football. 2 weeks ago Bryce young threw for 450 yards and the sf D allowed about that. Last night at half against the 9ers young had 28 passing yards.

I think the team was happy to win a road game. I think the team continues to be confident in a defense that allowed only 13 points and scored 7 itself. I think the team is confident the next time they are 1st and goal from the 4 the results will be better.
I have never known anyone in a competitive situation to take one time that things went poorly and say “oh my god we suck, we will never succeed again, we’ve been exposed”

If you want to turtle up and think the rest of the season doesn’t matter because you weren’t prescient enough to see this coming go ahead. Not me. Every win makes me want more. Everything this team achieved raises the bar for me. If you want to be afraid of being good that’s up to you, but I’d suggest that’s a ****ty way to go through life.
At this point anything less than the 1 seed will be a huge disappointment for me and once the playoffs start anything less then a Lombardi will be.
Also, Drake Maye isn’t Mac jones.

 

[Ring 6]

You always have to jump to conclusions and end with such ridiculous statements.
It’s too bad, you can stay on track for a post or two, then have to make your grand proclamations.
It’s strange.

It’s my interpretation of your thinking.

Or let me put it another way. It’s extending your logic. If you are fearing the 2-10 Giants you are simply saying you fear any game.
We are 10-2. When do you show confidence.

Like I said if you want to be Debbie Diener that’s up to you, I just don’t get it

 

[jdlboot14]

We can't take this Giants team lightly, even if Winston is at QB (But I'm sure Dart will be back)
Sure, stats say they are the bottom 2 or 3 in certain defensive categories, but we just made the league-worst D look like rockstars, especially in the RZ. We're not looking good on O the last 4 weeks - Since Falcons game Maye has struggled more.
And, if we can't run against their #32 ranked run D, we have panic in Pats Nation!
And they have some good pieces in Lawrence, Burns & Carter for pass rushers.

 

[DoubleDeluxe]

It’s my interpretation of your thinking.

Right.
So having concern over a couple of key injuries against a front that could exploit it means I go through life scared of being good. That’s your interpretation of my thinking.
Being concerned over giving up 120 yards on the ground at 5 yds a pop against a bottom 3 rushing team in the NFL means I go through life scared of being good. That’s your interpretation of my thinking.
I don’t know how you connect those dots, but it’s what you do in every post where a poster doesn’t paint a picture of unicorns flying over bubblegum clouds.
Maybe you should just read what’s written and stop trying to interpret things unsaid.

 

[DoubleDeluxe]

We can't take this Giants team lightly, even if Winston is at QB (But I'm sure Dart will be back)
Sure, stats say they are the bottom 2 or 3 in certain defensive categories, but we just made the league-worst D look like rockstars, especially in the RZ. We're not looking good on O the last 4 weeks - Since Falcons game Maye has struggled more.
And, if we can't run against their #32 ranked run D, we have panic in Pats Nation!
And they have some good pieces in Lawrence, Burns & Carter for pass rushers.

To some of us these are valid points worthy of consideration.
To others, it means you go through life scared of being good.

 

[Ring 6]

Right.
So having concern over a couple of key injuries against a front that could exploit it means I go through life scared of being good. That’s your interpretation of my thinking.
Being concerned over giving up 120 yards on the ground at 5 yds a pop against a bottom 3 rushing team in the NFL means I go through life scared of being good. That’s your interpretation of my thinking.
I don’t know how you connect those dots, but it’s what you do in every post where a poster doesn’t paint a picture of unicorns flying over bubblegum clouds.
Maybe you should just read what’s written and stop trying to interpret things unsaid.

Did I say those things? Why would you attribute them to me?

Being the currently best team in the league and going out of your way to post fear of playing the worst team in the league to me does add up to a fear of being good. Oh my God I better make sure I spend this week creating a soft landing because I’m worried we think we are good and we might lose.
You overstate the negatives and dismiss the positives.

Of all the things you can spend your time posting about regarding a team that is tearing up the league, why be negative? Why be fearful? Why not be excited, optimistic and aggressive?

I did read what you wrote and just explained why I think it’s misguided.

 

[Ring 6]

To some of us these are valid points worthy of consideration.
To others, it means you go through life scared of being good.

Read it again. It’s fear if accepting how ****ing good this team is. Oh my God how can we possibly deal with the 2-10 Giants after we only won a road game and weren’t perfect.

This team is in the #1 seed and driving toward a SB and the vast majority of posts are fear.

 

[Ring 6]

We can't take this Giants team lightly, even if Winston is at QB (But I'm sure Dart will be back)
Sure, stats say they are the bottom 2 or 3 in certain defensive categories, but we just made the league-worst D look like rockstars, especially in the RZ. We're not looking good on O the last 4 weeks - Since Falcons game Maye has struggled more.
And, if we can't run against their #32 ranked run D, we have panic in Pats Nation!
And they have some good pieces in Lawrence, Burns & Carter for pass rushers.

Why would whether you or I take the giants lightly matter?

They are a bottom 2 or 3 defense. We moved the ball at will in cincy, and got bogged down in the red zone.
We’ve scored 26.3 ppg the last 3 weeks. Maye hasn’t struggled.

Every team has good pieces. Teams that are 2-10 don’t have enough.

Btw we won last week. On the road. The sky isn’t falling.

 

[DoubleDeluxe]

This is a football forum where we discuss all things good and bad.
It’s not “fear of accepting how good this team is”, I don’t even know what that’s supposed to mean.
This team is very good. Discussing concerns of things that could cost them a game is not fear, I’m not sure how you make that jump.
The run D has been susceptible without Williams. That’s not fear, it’s reality.
Our best 2 Olineman and complete left side is out and that is cause for concern. That’s not fear, it’s reality.
If you don’t want to acknowledge that, maybe you shouldn’t reply to those posts, especially when you end with questioning how people could live in fear of being good.

 

[XLIX]

But the coach is playing for a job, so if the players like him, they'll play hard for him.

The current interim HC is not the long term solution. The players are only playing for their own jobs.

 

[mike_usagisan]

The current interim HC is not the long term solution. The players are only playing for their own jobs.

And we’ll see for how much longer. If Monday’s game starts going bad for them, they may have no fight left.

 

[sb1]

I think 2007 got in a lot of people's heads. Tom Coughlin isn't their coach anymore and all those guys are long gone. That was a good team that gave the Patriots a fight in week 17, this is a wretched team playing for draft position.

 

[p8ryts]

And we’ll see for how much longer. If Monday’s game starts going bad for them, they may have no fight left.

I hope things go bad for them.

 

[Mack Herron]

 

[signbabybrady]

Alex Austin to IR and we claimed a LT off Browns practice squad Munford Jr. If you claim someone from a practice squad you have to keep them at least 3 games. I'm guessing there's some correlation between those 3 games and one or both of Wilson/Campbell injuries. One of them is probably out at least that long not that we didn't already assume that.

 

[mike_usagisan]

Alex Austin to IR and we claimed a LT off Browns practice squad Munford Jr. If you claim someone from a practice squad you have to keep them at least 3 games. I'm guessing there's some correlation between those 3 weeks and one or both of Wilson/Campbell injuries. One of them is probably out at least that long not that we didn't already assume that.

Is it three weeks or three games?

 

[signbabybrady]

Is it three weeks or three games?

I used both huh. Not positive but I think games.

 

[mayoclinic]

Anytime you take the other team lightly you are likely to lose.

Anytime you don't play hard for a full 60 minutes you are lightly to lose.

Part of good coaching is making sure those things don't happen. It's also about limiting mistakes, and overcoming those that do happen.

Through 12 games, despite some adversity and plenty of room for improvement, the Pats have been the most consistent team in a very inconsistent league.