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  1. WHPats

    WHPats On the Roster

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    I tried to remain confident in our defense, I tried to defend them whenever a lot of you pointed out their flaws, which were glaring. I always made the argument about yards not being as important as points. Well good defenses prevent yards and points because if you give up tons of yards, as we saw a good team will bury you in points. All of you who criticized the defense all year were absolutely right. Even most of the games we won we gave up a ton of yards and eventually the chickens came home to roost.

    Who do you guys think will be released or not back next year? Any prominent names? We need the cap space to build this defense.

    What about the draft and FA signings? Who should we and will we likely target?
     

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    Triumph Pro Bowl Player

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    Defense needs over haul
     
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  3. PatriotsFan87

    PatriotsFan87 On the Game Day Roster

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  4. VegasGuy

    VegasGuy 2nd Team Getting Their First Start

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    Although I've I been reading, I haven't posted anything since Sunday.

    Not because we lost but because I'm still in a fog over the Butler situation.

    This is the perfect thread to snap out of it though. Time to move. Nothing can change what happened.

    Looking forward to free agency and the draft.

    And Josh is staying! Hell yeah!
     
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  5. mgteich

    mgteich PatsFans.com Veteran PatsFans.com Supporter

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    DE Flowers does NOT suck!
     
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  6. IllegalContact

    IllegalContact PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

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    He’s just ok

    It’s a collective suck
     
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  7. maineman209

    maineman209 In the Starting Line-Up

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    The 2017 Pats front-7 included:

    802 snaps (76%) - T. Flowers, 3rd Pats season ... 3rd NFL season
    ... including his rookie season when he was on IR
    710 snaps (67%) - Van Noy, 2nd* Pats season
    ...
    4th NFL (*played only a half season for the Pats in 2016)
    582 snaps (55%) - Guy, 1st Pats season ... 8th NFL season
    558 snaps (53%) - Roberts, 2nd Pats season ... 2nd NFL
    543 snaps (51%) - Wise, ROOKIE
    537 snaps (51%) - Brown, 3rd Pats season ... 3rd NFL season
    473 snaps (45%) - A. Butler, ROOKIE
    283 snaps (27%) - M. Flowers, 1st Pats season ... 3rd NFL season
    ... total of 72 defensive snaps played in his prior seasons
    281 snaps (27%) - Lee, 1st Pats season ... 3rd NFL season
    ... no previous experience playing on defense anywhere
    274 snaps (26%) - Branch, 4th Pats season ... 11th NFL
    266 snaps (25%) - Marsh, 1st Pats season ... 4th NFL season
    237 snaps (22%) - Hightower, 6th Pats season ... 6th NFL
    181 snaps (17%) - Harris, 1st Pats season ... 11th NFL
    88 snaps (8%) - RJF, 1st Pats season ... 10th NFL
    57 snaps (5%) - Reilly, 1st Pats season (active roster)
    ... 4th NFL ... 139 defensive snaps in previous career
    27 snaps (3%) - Harrison, 1st Pats season ... 16th NFL

    38 combined snaps from Freeny, Langi (ROOKIE),
    and Grigsby (1st Pats season)

    In the secondary:

    816 snaps (77%) - Gilmore, 1st Pats season
    439 snaps (41%) - J. Jones, 2nd Pats season, 2nd NFL season
    259 snaps (25%) - Rowe, 2nd Pats season, 3rd NFL season
    214 snaps (20%) - Bademosi, 1st Pats season

    This group allowed the 5th fewest points in the 2017 regular season and helped win 11 regular season games and two playoff games. You could give at least some of the 16 guys who've had limited (1-2 years) experience in the Pats system a little more time to learn it and develop, or you could just overreact to the Superbowl performance, ignore their collective season-long accomplishments, and turn majority of the defensive roster over AGAIN to start from scratch with a whole bunch of new players that you can only hope will somehow magically be "better" right off the bat.
     
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  8. IllegalContact

    IllegalContact PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

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    Rd1 : DE/DT Maurice Hurst
    Rd2a: CB Mike Hughes
    Rd2b: DE Arden Key
    Rd3: LB Leighton Vander Esch
    Rd4: RB Josh Adams
     
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  9. The Brandon Five

    The Brandon Five PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

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    I've moved on. Just booked a hotel in Atlanta with my Hilton points.

    Let's goooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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  10. ohiopatsfan

    ohiopatsfan Practice Squad Player

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    One thing the Pats could use is a little height at WR. Philly's tall receivers were a real problem all night. Four of our top 6 receivers are under 6'. That's why I'm hoping Britt makes the roster next season. Also some tall DB's would help.
     
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  11. Rhodey

    Rhodey Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    We have the best program and franchise is the NFL...even amongst other sports teams. Bob Kraft will insure that the New England Patriots have the right football people in place and that they have what they need to succeed. He knows how this is done. Do you think he was just lucky when he found and hired Belichick, or was BB lucky to be found?
     
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  12. aluminum seats

    aluminum seats Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

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    So Brady has to pass for 800 yards? This team needs defense.
     
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  13. betterthanthealternative

    betterthanthealternative PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

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    This got 11 agrees and a Winner.
     
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  14. maineman209

    maineman209 In the Starting Line-Up

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    I presume you're thinking of taller WRs who will pick up the offensive system quickly, and consistently run the correct routes and make the correct adjustments properly and with good technique and consistent discipline. And catch the ball consistently.

    I'm sure the Pats would love to acquire a couple of those.
     
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  15. Mr.Bandwagon

    Mr.Bandwagon Practice Squad Player

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    Me want some NASTY on our defense!!!!!
    A hard hitting son of a bitc.hes type of defense!!!
     
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  16. ATippett56

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    We are on to 2018 ................................................. hopefully without Jordan Richards.
     
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  17. sean10mm

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    If they had linebackers who could just tackle at a league average level, the Patriots win the Super Bowl by 10.
     
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  18. maineman209

    maineman209 In the Starting Line-Up

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    If everybody on the defense had merely made tackles at the "normal" rate, the Pats likely would've won. Tackling (and block-shedding/avoidance) sucked team-wide from the get-go.
     
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    We crave Cat like quickness up and down the roster.
     
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