Update: Prince Aaron demands Packers fire GM

[PatsWSB47]

Claudia Selvaggia....I want her to hurt me so bad...

Ill be back in 5 minutes

 

[Galeb]

Ok so you don’t understand what communism is, bit evidently you can cut and paste from Wikipedia.
There is no wealthy class in a communist system. (Unless there is corruption but that is corruption not communism)
Communism is the banging together of citizens to give control of resources, the means of production of goods and services into the hands of government, so that everyone shares equally in the labor and fruits of the labor. This has ultimately failed everywhere it has been tried because there is no incentive to achieve and disincentive to work hard.
It does, however, create a greater opportunity for corruption.

how is capitalism damaging? Especially now? We are in the greatest stretch in history of innovation, of growth of opportunity. Capitalism creates this, capitalism says that if you as a consumer think a product sucks, you don’t buy it so they must improve the product or get replaced by competition. Capitalism is the consumers best friend. The average American has more and better quality possessions than anywhere at any time in history.
A child born poor today in America has a better chance, by many multitudes to be one wealthy than anywhere at any time in history.
What damage are you talking about?

Don't confuse your M.O. with mine. Truth be told, the only thing I've looked up in this entire thread is the spelling of a couple of words. In fact, I haven't studied Communism in almost a decade. I am not a kettle, and you didn't hit a triple.

And for the record, every instance of Communism that has tried on a national scale has created a small, very wealthy ruling class, except perhaps Vietnam.

Do you know anyone working in a factory today? There is no shot of raising a family and buying a modest house with an average factory worker's salary in the US today. Fifty years ago, it was commonplace.

It is easy for anyone with at least a moderate intellect who isn't completely blind to see the damage being wrought by Capitalism. Instead of pointing out obvious examples to one who will refuse to genuinely look at them, I will repeat the biggest fundamental flaw that's already been mentioned. Any system that requires an accelerating consumption of finite resources is necessarily self terminating. Even staunch capitalists admit that Capitalism requires constant economic expansion.

This is 101 stuff, Andy. Might wanna go on another furious google run to try to refute these obvious truths. You should probably start with game theory, which is fundamental to understanding the basics of economics. You then might want to study a little American and European economic history, including the wealth gap as well as wages relative to inflation over time.

 

[Steve102]

Don't confuse your M.O. with mine. Truth be told, the only thing I've looked up in this entire thread is the spelling of a couple of words. In fact, I haven't studied Communism in almost a decade. I am not a kettle, and you didn't hit a triple.

And for the record, every instance of Communism that has tried on a national scale has created a small, very wealthy ruling class, except perhaps Vietnam.

Do you know anyone working in a factory today? There is no shot of raising a family and buying a modest house for a an average factory worker in the US today. Fifty years ago, it was commonplace.

It is easy for anyone with at least a moderate intellect who isn't completely blind to see the damage being wrought by Capitalism. Instead of pointing out obvious examples to one who will refuse to genuinely look at them, I will repeat the biggest fundamental flaw that's already been mentioned. Any system that requires an accelerating consumption of finite resources is necessarily self terminating. Even staunch capitalists admit that Capitalism requires constant economic expansion.

This is 101 stuff, Andy. Might wanna go on another furious google run to try to refute these obvious truths. You should probably start with game theory, which is fundamental to understanding the basics of economics. You then might want to study a little American and European economic history, including the wealth gap as well as wages relative to inflation over time.

What did I tell you? What. Did. I. Tell. You?

JK man.

 

[Kontradiction]

If any of you are looking to start investing in Crypto, may I recommend CumRocket? It’s up 11,000% MTD.

 

[Galeb]

What did I tell you? What. Did. I. Tell. You?

JK man.

Sorry, I'll stop. Ironically, arguing with the arguer did spawn some interesting real dialogue with others, so it wasn't a complete waste of time. TBH, a small, naive part of me was hoping that he'd realize the delusional, repeating pattern of behavior that he is stuck in and begin the process of breaking out of it.

 

[Steve102]

Sorry, I'll stop. Ironically, arguing with the arguer did spawn some interesting real dialogue with others, so it wasn't a complete waste of time. TBH, a small, naive part of me was hoping that he'd realize the delusional, repeating pattern of behavior that he is stuck in and begin the process of breaking out of it.

 

[Galeb]

That gif is awesome! Thanks for the laugh.

 

[Bill Lee]

Deus' best post of his life.

Low bar.

 

[Galeb]

Deus' best post of his life.

I miss a lot of stuff on here, but he's been making a bunch of good posts recently.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Not reading through all the posts, but how did all these ladies appear such as the AT&T chick? Funny how she has no problem taking photos as seen in this thread, yet will now hide behind desks in her ads because she doesn't like people online making her Lily character pornographic? Lol.

By the way, is Shailene Woodley Aaron's beard?

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

By the way, is Shailene Woodley Aaron's beard?

Yes

 

[Steve102]

Yes

Does she know it?

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

This WAS a great thread. I'm out now.

 

[PP2]

Sorry, I'll stop. Ironically, arguing with the arguer did spawn some interesting real dialogue with others, so it wasn't a complete waste of time. TBH, a small, naive part of me was hoping that he'd realize the delusional, repeating pattern of behavior that he is stuck in and begin the process of breaking out of it.

I honestly think he's functionally autistic.

 

[PP2]

This WAS a great thread. I'm out now.

You'll be back. You can't resist this trainwreck.

 

[Galeb]

I honestly think he's functionally autistic.

I've never detected a hint of that, and he's put out a lot of material. His tenacious defense and justification of his beliefs and never being wrong is a trait that is growing in much of our population. I know there are times I've argued points that were wrong and attacked positions that were right without really looking at it. Thing is, I'm aware of that fact and usually catch myself when I'm doing it. I think everyone does it sometimes. He's simply obsessive about it without having any awareness of it.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

You'll be back. You can't resist this trainwreck.

This best describes the experience of getting into an argument with Andy...

What would happen if you got sucked into a black hole?

From wormhole passages to white hole escape routes, no one knows for certain what lurks beyond a black hole’s event horizon – so choose your own unsettling fate

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Suddenly, you feel a tug, faint at first, but getting ever stronger as it pulls you towards an empty region of the sky. Before you know it, you have entered a black hole. “That’s when the universe starts to go bizarre on you,” says Priyamvada Natarajan at Yale University.

 

[Tony2046]

See this is where you get yourself all bollaxed up. You don’t think. You just say what you think, find any response as something you must disagree with to save face, and put zero effort into understanding the discussion.

At no point did I say automation was bad.
I said automation results in labor reductions. That’s a fact.
There is a limit to demand. Increasing production per employee has to, as an iron clad fact, reduce employees unless demand increases.
Across markets, across the globe, across the world economy demand is finite.
You keep pushing to ball over to no one within a subset has to lose their job and ignoring that means someone outside the subset has to.

Here is an example.
Amazon is already using delivery drones. Before long it will be the standard. How many delivery people will lose their jobs? Amazon can’t sell more because of a delivery system (at least not more than a nominal change due to speed.... yet that cuts into retail sales and costs some of those employees a job)
If it took as many employees to mange the drones as the number of delivery people riffed then it would be automation it would net zero gain so why bother? The ONLY reason to use drones is because it is cheaper, so the labor cost has to go down by more than the equipment cost, therefore it is certainly a cut in the workforce.
So to follow your argument, Amazon could take those employees and open a bank. And again there is a finite demand for banking so you are simply taking a business away from someone else and cutting their workforce.
Your final argument is you do away with delivery drivers so you can make them executives who invent new products. Lol

To keep in tune with the thread this is a boobish response.

Stick to camel toes and McDonald's widgets.

 

[Ring 6]

Andy, you should never accuse anyone of this ever. Even if that is what they are doing, you've literally been doing this exact thing, hours a day, for at least a decade.

Absolutely not the case. I have defended every argument I have made on this board. The topics that typically get my attention are ones where the general perception is wrong. So of course people disagree with me, but I always back it up and come to the table with facts, explanation, and truth.