Travis Hunter

[One-If-By-Sea]

Considering Sanders was horrific as a deep ball passer this is kind of surprising

I think Hunter will need a few years to peak, but the talent is remarkable.

 

[Huckleberry1]

It's obvious the Hunter/Carter duo is going 1-2. I would be happy with Graham: with the Barmore situation. The Draft is Very Deep @ Edge so if Barmore comes back him and Graham would be formidable Inside.

I would be happy with any of Hunter/Carter/Graham, but I don’t think there’s anything obvious about the top of this draft. I think there’s going to be a million different rumors, and unlike any other draft we probably won’t know who is going where until the picks are in. Although there could be pre draft trade that clears some of it up. This will probably be one of the most interesting drafts we have seen in a while.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Some guys don’t have the genetics to have a pretty body. Graham is said to have great conditioning and to be very strong. If it is the case that a pro style strength and conditioning program can help him replace 15 pounds of fat with 15 pounds of muscle, watch out. He’s already a dominant player.

Thank God the Patriots passed on Vince Wilfork, that dude never passed a cow he didn’t eat. .

 

[Vindicate]

I am at a loss by the CB OR WR discussion. Why can't he play both? Lots of the guys in the secondary play 50% of the game, and lots of WRs play 50%. Use Hunter for his strengths. Do you need him on the field for running downs? I realize play action hides which plays are runs or passes, but it is not hard to identify most of the running plays.

If Hunter really has high 4.2 to low 4.3 speed, his hands and jump ball skills are fabulous, and he can learn multiple routes, why not play him alongside Tee Higgins, like the Bengals played Chase? Higgins, Hunter, Henry, Hooper, Douglas, and Boutte is not a bad lineup. Bourne is an injury sub. Find 2 tackles and a 3rd down back, and we have a real offense. It will take awhile to get everyone on the same page, but that is the fun part.

Key part being that puts you in at over 50%. The NFL is not forgiving at all, and snap management is half the game, as there's another one next week

Plus, might help to reference an adjacent topic, RE: when Belichick was asked when/why it was determined that a roster spot should be spent on a kicker, punter, long snapper individually, one of his better press conference questions. His answer includes the importance of how much time you have in practice to work on your specialty, highlighting why a kicker/punter hybrid is so rare.

That's why I think he should primarily spend his time on one side, with maybe a few snaps depending on gameplan on the other side. I'm on the side of: CB primary, 5-10 snaps at WR. But you and KSEVEN are making me think twice about that, as he could be actually better at WR? I'm still leaning more towards CB, but less adamant. I will definitely be adamant about his snap management, though. No need to waste a 1st rnd pick by wearing him out before his rookie deal is up.

 

[Huckleberry1]

The Browns are in salary cap hell, only the Saints have it worse than them. They’re stuck paying Watson who may not play for them this year, Winston is a free agent, and they only have Thompson-Robinson under contract at QB. They can’t afford to splurge in free agency at QB and will need to strongly consider taking either Ward or Sanders with their 2nd overall pick. They need a cost-controlled, long-term option. There’s just no way all three teams pass on QB, so you can count on at least one of the premium defensive options (Hunter/Carter/Graham) to be there at 4.

I agree with this. The Browns put themselves in a position where they really need a young QB with a cap controlled salary. But I could see them trading down some and then taking Jaxson Dart, QB Ole Miss.

 

[Huckleberry1]

100% correct that this would be a disaster. At 4 if you can not trade down and hunter, carter and graham are off the board

I think you would have to take campbell.

Unfortunately this scenario is actually possible

FU Mayo for costing us the #1 overall and a shot at a playmaker

One of the 3 will be there at #4. Ward will end up going top 3.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

That's why I think he should primarily spend his time on one side, with maybe a few snaps depending on gameplan on the other side. I'm on the side of: CB primary, 5-10 snaps at WR. But you and KSEVEN are making me think twice about that, as he could be actually better at WR? I'm still leaning more towards CB, but less adamant. I will definitely be adamant about his snap management, though. No need to waste a 1st rnd pick by wearing him out before his rookie deal is up.

Great post. @KCSVEN is the master - listen to him, not me.

The idea of being a WR and a CB is daunting and I am not sure how one guy trains and prepares for both. But I would love to see Hunter try. Fortunately the 2 positions are very similar. And it seems Hunter could learn 3 routes to play WR?

 

[KCSVEN]

Key part being that puts you in at over 50%. The NFL is not forgiving at all, and snap management is half the game, as there's another one next week

Plus, might help to reference an adjacent topic, RE: when Belichick was asked when/why it was determined that a roster spot should be spent on a kicker, punter, long snapper individually, one of his better press conference questions. His answer includes the importance of how much time you have in practice to work on your specialty, highlighting why a kicker/punter hybrid is so rare.

That's why I think he should primarily spend his time on one side, with maybe a few snaps depending on gameplan on the other side. I'm on the side of: CB primary, 5-10 snaps at WR. But you and KSEVEN are making me think twice about that, as he could be actually better at WR? I'm still leaning more towards CB, but less adamant. I will definitely be adamant about his snap management, though. No need to waste a 1st rnd pick by wearing him out before his rookie deal is up.

It really goes to need, if #1 CB is a need I'd play him there and have him as a WR on 3rd downs or big plays in the game. Since we have Gonzalez then WR is a need so I'd -play him there and have him 3rd down/important plays as CB.

Much could change after free agency, and I still think he goes to Titans and we might end up with Carter.

 

[n1997y]

Thank God the Patriots passed on Vince Wilfork, that dude never passed a cow he didn’t eat. .

Vince knows Q

 

[Pacific Coast Patriot]

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Better hands than Tet on contested balls, can read a defense and react, runs great routes, 6'2", 4.2 speed, won the Fred Biletnikoff award for best WR in college

The fact you're having to justify why a receiver that won the Biletnikoff award is competent as a WR is hilarious to me... just shows how many people have never seen the kid play, or don't know what the hell they're looking at if they have.

Dudes got that rare Saquon style x factor elusiveness, he's 100% gonna be a threat in the NFL. I'm keeping receipts from this thread when he inevitably gets added to the insane and ever growing list of incredible receivers we passed on, for players that are no longer in the NFL. Although I'm thinking he goes in the top 3 overall, he's that good. Carter is a nice consolation.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

The fact you're having to justify why a receiver that won the Biletnikoff award is competent as a WR is hilarious to me... just shows how many people have never seen the kid play, or don't know what the hell they're looking at if they have.

Dudes got that rare Saquon style x factor elusiveness, he's 100% gonna be a threat in the NFL. I'm keeping receipts from this thread when he inevitably gets added to the insane and ever growing list of incredible receivers we passed on, for players that are no longer in the NFL. Although I'm thinking he goes in the top 3 overall, he's that good. Carter is a nice consolation.

I think it will be 2 QBs before us and Carter or Hunter. They might pick Carter before Hunter because of the hype around Parsons.

 

[WhatJustHappened]

Played against WHO exactly?

 

[signbabybrady]

Let this dude get to us at 4 please!

 

[Real fan 02]

I assume you'll switch from a 3 man front base defense to a 4?

Reported Vrabel is going with a 4 man front.. when we last did this it was under Vrabel.. we rushed the passer and stiffled offenses.. that 2nd Rams superbowl defensive game plan was masterful.

 

[bakes781]

Reported Vrabel is going with a 4 man front.. when we last did this it was under Vrabel.. we rushed the passer and stiffled offenses.. that 2nd Rams superbowl defensive game plan was masterful.

To bring us back ontopic this would be further reason for selecting Carter over Hunter

 

[Real fan 02]

To bring us back ontopic this would be further reason for selecting Carter over Hunter

Agreed there. As much as I love hunter.. Carter is likely the more logical pick if you will.. I can just sense that we are going be far better on offense no matter who we add at WR. So take Carter at 4 if he's there.

 

[KCSVEN]

To bring us back ontopic this would be further reason for selecting Carter over Hunter

I don't think it'll be a choice, only 1 will be available. It might be a question of Hunter vs Graham.
Hunter vs Carter I can see taking Carter due to the position
Hunter vs anyone else? The talent difference is too great to not take Hunter.

 

[sportnik]

The Pats draft board should be

1/Carter
2/Hunter
3/Graham
4/Trade down for whatever you can get

 

[mike_usagisan]

I'm not sure Vrabel and our DC are going to prioritize Carter unless they are positive he can stop the run.

 

[yukon cornelius]

he's going to have to improve his technique on both sides of the ball to truly succeed at the NFL level - he relies too much on athleticism right now - he'll be a solid corner and a solid receiver, but he's going to get beat/going to get covered until he improves technique.......my big red flag is does his ego allow him to see this? will he put in the work to improve?