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A lot of things have to come together but we could still not be good and win 2-3 more games because better draft/FA and real coaches and schedule.
Plus we play 8 games vs teams who lost 12 of more games last year. I don’t see much improvement in that group either.
 
KW is a much Faster X: I hope Boutte morphs into X/Z type Receiver like Diggs.
The other thing that’s not mentioned much is Boutte, Williams, Baker and Polk having guys like Hollins and Diggs added to the mix. That’s a lot of experienced leadership and skill they didn’t have last season on the roster. Now they have a library of experience and knowledge to absorb that they just didn’t have last year.
 
The more i think about it the more i don't like a 53 roster projection, cause in reality what it is a 51 roster + 2 guys you like. Those last 2-3 aren't there so much for true depth, they are just guys you don't want to see on the waiver wire.

QB (2) Drake Maye, Joshua Dobbs
RB (4) Rhamondre Stevenson, Antonio Gibson, TreVeyon Henderson, Lan Larison
TE (2) Hunter Henry, Austin Hooper
WR (5) Stefon Diggs, Demario Douglas, Mack Hollins, Kyle Williams, Kendrick Bourne
C (2) Garrett Bradbury, Ben Brown
G (3) Mike Onwenu, Jared Wilson, Cole Strange
T (4) Will Campbell, Morgan Moses, Marcus Bryant, Caedan Wallace

DE (2) Keion White, Milton Williams
DT (4) Christian Barmore, Jeremiah Pharms Jr., Khyiris Tonga, Joshua Farmer
ILB (4) Robert Spillane, Christian Elliss, Jahlani Tavai, Jack Gibbens
OLB (4) Harold Landry, K’Lavon Chaisson, Bradyn Swinson, Anfernee Jennings
CB (5) Christian Gonzalez, Carlton Davis, Alex Austin, Marcus Jones, D.J. James
SS (2) Kyle Dugger, Jaylinn Hawkins
FS (2) Jabrill Peppers, Craig Woodson
ST (4) Bryce Baringer, Julian Ashby, Brenden Schooler, Andres Borregales

Total Players: 49

Right now after what i've read this looks like the roster more or less. I think Strange is still mostly safe. Even though Bryant seems to own the back up LT spot i still think Wallace is solid. I've seen many projections with Larison being cut. But considering how much injuries happen at RB i don't think they carry only 3. And Larison has showed well. I know typically you want 3 TEs and Scott seems to be doing okay, but do we HAVE to carry him? I don't see him not making it through waivers... and if he doesn't... I kind of shrug and say so what? At WR these are the 5 at least early and Bourne is gone.

DJ James has made himself a near impossible cut at the all important CB position, can never have enough young depth there. On DL i think they are happy with these 6 (though there is cross over with OLB obviously. To this point Ponder and Truman though interesting have not shown enough to warrant being kept for sure. Tavai has to be considered safe at this point. He is the kind of guy Vrabel would already cut if he didn't plan on keeping him. And while he isn't built for the standard version of this D there will be looks where they will want to change it where he'll make more sense. at OLB those 4 seem obvious and no one else looks like a keeper. At CB while other guys are on the bubble would anyone lose sleep if Dial got sniped away? Not me. Safety just seems very solid with these 4. No one is making a case to unsettle those spots at all or give a roster push.

So who does those last 4 spots go to? One will be a DB who plays STs... Maybe Dial. At least 1-2 WRs. Polk and/or Chism. Baker will easy fall through waivers. Last spot? Is there really an OL or TE better than what can be had on waivers that far down out depth chart? If not protect your most promising player left... maybe Truman Jones?
Sorry can't see both Hollins and Bourne making it: not even in an alternate universe.
 
He isn't wrong. But when you **** with the scoring system, it isn't NFL football anymore. Let's see them against Washington this week. That will tell some more.
 
The more i think about it the more i don't like a 53 roster projection, cause in reality what it is a 51 roster + 2 guys you like. Those last 2-3 aren't there so much for true depth, they are just guys you don't want to see on the waiver wire.

QB (2) Drake Maye, Joshua Dobbs
RB (4) Rhamondre Stevenson, Antonio Gibson, TreVeyon Henderson, Lan Larison
TE (2) Hunter Henry, Austin Hooper
WR (5) Stefon Diggs, Demario Douglas, Mack Hollins, Kyle Williams, Kendrick Bourne
C (2) Garrett Bradbury, Ben Brown
G (3) Mike Onwenu, Jared Wilson, Cole Strange
T (4) Will Campbell, Morgan Moses, Marcus Bryant, Caedan Wallace

DE (2) Keion White, Milton Williams
DT (4) Christian Barmore, Jeremiah Pharms Jr., Khyiris Tonga, Joshua Farmer
ILB (4) Robert Spillane, Christian Elliss, Jahlani Tavai, Jack Gibbens
OLB (4) Harold Landry, K’Lavon Chaisson, Bradyn Swinson, Anfernee Jennings
CB (5) Christian Gonzalez, Carlton Davis, Alex Austin, Marcus Jones, D.J. James
SS (2) Kyle Dugger, Jaylinn Hawkins
FS (2) Jabrill Peppers, Craig Woodson
ST (4) Bryce Baringer, Julian Ashby, Brenden Schooler, Andres Borregales

Total Players: 49

Right now after what i've read this looks like the roster more or less. I think Strange is still mostly safe. Even though Bryant seems to own the back up LT spot i still think Wallace is solid. I've seen many projections with Larison being cut. But considering how much injuries happen at RB i don't think they carry only 3. And Larison has showed well. I know typically you want 3 TEs and Scott seems to be doing okay, but do we HAVE to carry him? I don't see him not making it through waivers... and if he doesn't... I kind of shrug and say so what? At WR these are the 5 at least early and Bourne is gone.

DJ James has made himself a near impossible cut at the all important CB position, can never have enough young depth there. On DL i think they are happy with these 6 (though there is cross over with OLB obviously. To this point Ponder and Truman though interesting have not shown enough to warrant being kept for sure. Tavai has to be considered safe at this point. He is the kind of guy Vrabel would already cut if he didn't plan on keeping him. And while he isn't built for the standard version of this D there will be looks where they will want to change it where he'll make more sense. at OLB those 4 seem obvious and no one else looks like a keeper. At CB while other guys are on the bubble would anyone lose sleep if Dial got sniped away? Not me. Safety just seems very solid with these 4. No one is making a case to unsettle those spots at all or give a roster push.

So who does those last 4 spots go to? One will be a DB who plays STs... Maybe Dial. At least 1-2 WRs. Polk and/or Chism. Baker will easy fall through waivers. Last spot? Is there really an OL or TE better than what can be had on waivers that far down out depth chart? If not protect your most promising player left... maybe Truman Jones?
Nice try but you Reached on Offense some: Lan Larison - Benny Brown and Cole Strange are not locks. Also Caedan Wallace is no longer a Tackle. Vederian Lowe have to get a Tackle spot. OT Marcus Bryant have to show he can play on this level in the Preseason or it's off to the PS.
 
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