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Pats726 said:
I heard reports on Pats weel;y...he wanted tickets for his entourage that NE didn't offer him enough OR some other monetary thing like that..NOT the fans disliking him..but that to me makes him look bad..WORSE!!


Joe Montana did the same thing this year I believe for the super bowl (or playoff game - cant remember). He was being honored at half time but declined to attend unless the league put up cash.

Eason would have been booed, and I think he knew it. To many Pats fans have a knee jerk reaction to remebering Eason as a ***** and sucky QB. Under those circumstances, I don't blame him for trying to get something out of the deal considering the poor reception he would get.
 
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Plunkett

I've read the thread and seen where JP has had some mention.

Poor teams etc. have been sighted. But one thing has escaped most of you
and that is the "COACH" of that time.

JP is drafted #1 and the Pats get Fairbanks the "Coach".

Both were good but not together. Fairbanks put JP into a system that was not conducive to his talents. Fairbanks and the system he forced JP to run were almost the complete ruination of JP.

Plunkett goes to SF and basically takes a year or so off.

Then to Oakland where he is put into a situation that he excells in.

Maybe not a Pats top QB but an NFL top 20 QB, .....imo. Guts, brains, and HEART. Also a couple of rings.?
 
As much as I've trashed Eason I've played enough informal sports to realize that I might cringe and scream like a girl if an NFL player like LT sacked me.

Got 'accidently' clobbered by a 295 LB NFL OT while playing hoops and went airborne for 20 feet. I'm 185.
 
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spacecrime said:
The thing that speaks for Bledsoe is that his first play after coming back from having Mo Lewis tear his aorta was that the ran out of bounds and Lee Flowers hit him almost the exact same way on the sidelines.Bledsoe ran back into the huddle pumping his arm, and throwing a TD pass, the only offensive TD of the game.

in remember very very well that moment and honestly i appreciated a lot
the 'hearth' showed by Drew Bledsoe

i think that in that moment when Brady went down i was proud-happy to see # 11 coming on the field

and it was a nice W...i was happy for us and mostly for Drew
 
RayClay said:
Mr. Italianpat, I don't know if you'll get this, but I think this saying is apropos.

"Balls" said the Queen, if I had 2 I'd be King.

'more or less' i catched it...
 
kurtinelson said:
Joe Montana did the same thing this year I believe for the super bowl (or playoff game - cant remember). He was being honored at half time but declined to attend unless the league put up cash.

Eason would have been booed, and I think he knew it. To many Pats fans have a knee jerk reaction to remebering Eason as a ***** and sucky QB. Under those circumstances, I don't blame him for trying to get something out of the deal considering the poor reception he would get.

i agree with yr post.
having said that, again, it is a PETTY that Eason could have been (and i think like you that could have happened) 'booed'.

i agree also with one of the posts above mentioned that are saying that in 46 years history of our franchise is not the 'maximum' to have had 5-6 good qb (1 is more then good of course...)

still Tony Eason is in my top 5 / exactly at # 5

ps = what is he doing now ?
 
"Champagne Tony"

1. Tom Brady -it's not even close
2. Drew Bledsoe - fantastic arm, a competitor but prone to some bad
decisions
3. Steve Grogan -great runner early in his career, better QB later in his career
4. Babe Parelli -great stats, good teams amd the best nickname
5. Jim Plunkett - good QB on lousy teams - tough competitor - NO WAY
was "Champagne Tony" better - just ask each of their teamates
 
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Patriotic said:
1. Tom Brady -it's not even close
2. Drew Bledsoe - fantastic arm, a competitor but prone to some bad
decisions
3. Steve Grogan -great runner early in his career, better QB later in his career
4. Babe Parelli -great stats, good teams amd the best nickname
5. Jim Plunkett - good QB on lousy teams - tough competitor - NO WAY
was "Champagne Tony" better - just ask each of their teamates
I agree with the 5...but Eason is fine at 6..and considering it all..NOT a bad place in 45 or so years..
 
patriotsrule said:
We aren't comparing Eason to us, we are comparing him to other NFL quarterbacks. None of us has the ability to play in the NFL so that last statement makes no sense. Ryan Leaf was great if you compare him to you or I.

My statement did make sense. I simply find it a little grating to hear all this 'sissy' and 'skirt' stuff aimed at Eason from all of us 'Tough Guys' here, and felt it was worth pointing out the level of toughness required to simply be taking that snap.

You're quite right that none of us has the ability to play in the NFL. I suggest that very few of us would have the toughness to play in the NFL even if we had the ability.

Besides that, I stand by my point: to be a half-decent QB in the NFL (which Eason indisputably was) you cannot be THAT soft, no matter what other people think.

There are plenty of good nitpicky points being made about our running game at the time and so on, but (admittedly without checking any stats) my memory tells me that in the season after SBXX Eason threw a huge number of passes.
 
Pats726 said:
I agree with the 5...but Eason is fine at 6..and considering it all..NOT a bad place in 45 or so years..

the difficulties could come to choose from number 7 to number 10 i think...
 
Eason was a dissapointment.

I would definitely rate him below Brady, Bledsoe, and Grogan... too young to know about the older guys.
 
italianpatthepatriot said:
do you have an idea where i could SEE these td ?
on the web is it possible ?
While watching the pitiful "The Patriots and We" video at:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MKiuhnmDbY

you can see a back-of-the-endzone angle of Eason's TD pass to Dawson at about the 2:40 mark. It doesn't look as impressive from this angle as it did from the regular camera angle, but trust me when I say it was a nice pass over the reach of the safety.

Regards,
Chris

P.S. The video quality is shiite.
 
I see so many parallels between Eason/Grogan and Brady/Bledsoe debates.

Grogan and Drew were all-or-nothing passers while Brady and Eason were low risk high percentage QBs.
 
Brady-To-Branch said:
I see so many parallels between Eason/Grogan and Brady/Bledsoe debates.

Grogan and Drew were all-or-nothing passers while Brady and Eason were low risk high percentage QBs.

Eason was an excellent passer. Great touch. He just had no balls.

Drew had balls, just was lazy, (offseason) and immobile and slow reacting.

Grogan didn't have good touch but had all the other intangibles that made players want to go to war.

Brady's got it all.
 
italianpatthepatriot said:
the difficulties could come to choose from number 7 to number 10 i think...

Who's next, Millen? We've had so many bad ones.
 
RayClay said:
Eason was an excellent passer. Great touch. He just had no balls.

I assume you're basing this on John Hannah's classless comments about Eason, months after the SBXX loss. Speaking of "no balls", Hannah made those "Eason wears a skirt" remarks after he retired. BTW, nobody mentions how poorly the O-line played in that game and that the SB MVP was DE Richard Dent. It's easier to just blame Eason I guess.

RayClay said:
Drew had balls, just was lazy, (offseason) and immobile and slow reacting.

He was also a much better QB than Grogan, both statistically and in regards to his team's success.

RayClay said:
Grogan didn't have good touch but had all the other intangibles that made players want to go to war.

Since the end of the 1976 season, Grogan flat out sucked against any elite team he played. Moreover, from 1979-1980, Grogan couldn't get his teams into the playoffs, despite having easy schedules in those years. Those seasons were the most fustrating I've ever had to endure as a Pats fan. BTW, he did toss two INTs in SBXX which is one of the main reasons Da Bears scored 46 points.

RayClay said:
Brady's got it all.

That goes without saying. At least we agree here. However, the Bledsoe supporters were fervent during the playoffs and even shortly after SB 36 for mainly the same reasons I've heard fans preferred Grogan over Eason: Drew's got a better arm, he's been with team for so long we hate to seem him go away, Brady didn't put up great numbers despite winning the SB, etc.

I'm not saying Eason was as good as Brady, only that their circumstances were similar. In 2001, the Pats handled Brady with kid gloves, but since 2002, Brady had shed his dink and dunk reputation. The Pats have been near the bottom of the league in short pass attempts since 2002.

One more thing, since Grogan is being cannonized for simply throwing a TD pass in SB XX (and 2 INTs), guess who'd rather have a game with no TDs and no INTs than a multiple TD game with an INT?

http://coldhardfootballfacts.com/Article.php?Page=640
 
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chris_in_sunnyvale said:
While watching the pitiful "The Patriots and We" video at:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MKiuhnmDbY

you can see a back-of-the-endzone angle of Eason's TD pass to Dawson at about the 2:40 mark. It doesn't look as impressive from this angle as it did from the regular camera angle, but trust me when I say it was a nice pass over the reach of the safety.

Regards,
Chris

P.S. The video quality is shiite.

GRAZIE CHRIS - 6 UN AMICO !
 
RayClay said:
Who's next, Millen? We've had so many bad ones.

i have seen on vhs a game with Millen at QB @ Nyj - terrible...

only good thing ? uniforms ! Pat Patriot !
 
Brady-To-Branch said:
I assume you're basing this on John Hannah's classless comments about Eason, months after the SBXX loss. Speaking of "no balls", Hannah made those "Eason wears a skirt" remarks after he retired. BTW, nobody mentions how poorly the O-line played in that game and that the SB MVP was DE Richard Dent. It's easier to just blame Eason I guess.



He was also a much better QB than Grogan, both statistically and in regards to his team's success.



Since the end of the 1976 season, Grogan flat out sucked against any elite team he played. Moreover, from 1979-1980, Grogan couldn't get his teams into the playoffs, despite having easy schedules in those years. Those seasons were the most fustrating I've ever had to endure as a Pats fan. BTW, he did toss two INTs in SBXX which is one of the main reasons Da Bears scored 46 points.



That goes without saying. At least we agree here. However, the Bledsoe supporters were fervent during the playoffs and even shortly after SB 36 for mainly the same reasons I've heard fans preferred Grogan over Eason: Drew's got a better arm, he's been with team for so long we hate to seem him go away, Brady didn't put up great numbers despite winning the SB, etc.

I'm not saying Eason was as good as Brady, only that their circumstances were similar. In 2001, the Pats handled Brady with kid gloves, but since 2002, Brady had shed his dink and dunk reputation. The Pats have been near the bottom of the league in short pass attempts since 2002.

One more thing, since Grogan is being cannonized for simply throwing a TD pass in SB XX (and 2 INTs), guess who'd rather have a game with no TDs and no INTs than a multiple TD game with an INT?

http://coldhardfootballfacts.com/Article.php?Page=640

I'm basing it on watching him play. Once he got scared of being hit, he would curl up in the fetal position as soon as he saw a defender coming towards him.

I'm basing it on watching him. I lived in the boston area at the time and probably watched every game he played since I've been a fan since the early 60's.

Since you seem to be basing your argument solely on some chicken**** statistics, explain to me how a QB goes from three seasons averaging almost 3,000 yards to being washed up in his 5th year in the league.

Tables don't display well, so why don't you pull out your little statistics page and explain how he just disappeared without a major injury?

I'm not even basing it on the SB game. I'm basing it on watching him quit his career because he was too scared to play.
 
italianpatthepatriot said:
i have seen on vhs a game with Millen at QB @ Nyj - terrible...

only good thing ? uniforms ! Pat Patriot !

After Eason and Plunkett, who's better?

I'm saying Millen over Taliaferro, Kapp, who else?

This will show some real Pats knowledge.
 
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