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  1. Ras-IR Dowling

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    Seriously?
     
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    Wax Frog Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

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    Now THERE'S an alt-timeline I couldn't deal with! :eek::D
     
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    Wax Frog Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

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    I wouldn't put it quite that bluntly, but yeah, that. As JE might say, that was a hell of a story, but it's time to take a deep breath and see what BB's next book is about.

    It also helps me to remind myself that nearly half of my Pats fan history featured non-teebee-cubies :D
     
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    I think Ariens is a fairly competent coach but I lost all respect for him with his comments after we beat them in the 2016 opener. He blamed everyone for the loss except himself. The GM and the owner did the same thing. They all bashed the players.

    Thats just crap leadership.
     
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    Exactly. I hate Arians.
     
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    Yep. All the gratitude in the world for TB, and best wishes for his future endeavors, but I was thoroughly seduced back in '85, so I'm all about the laundry til my dying day.

    For reasons that I won't bother to elaborate (personal ones that belong in TL : DR hell), for far too long I felt pressure for my team of choice to succeed. Now, thanks to the TB era, they've far exceeded that need, so I have closure. Between that, and knowing that what I've witnessed is a once-in-a-generation thing, I can accept the 'new normal', and just sit back, relax, and enjoy the drama born of The Aftermath as if it were some crazy English-language telenovela :D
     
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    For good or ill, he literally takes one for the team with every decision. I'm also glad he's still the coach.
     
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    I'm kind of in the same mindset.

    Last thing I want to endure is a 2-14, 5-11, multi-year period of suck-a-tude but there is a part of me that is kinda excited about this rebuild and the fun of the unknown. Maybe because like you I've been though it and know its awful but when the team turns around and has that unexpected playoff run...man its so much fun.
     
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    "Gotta play better, gotta coach better, that all starts with me."

    We've seen that movie already.
     
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    Steve:Section 102 In the Starting Line-Up

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    Can you imagine if they go 12-4 or something?? Stid throws for 3500 yards and 30 Tds with maybe 10 picks? The haters will be jumping off... wait for it... cliffs. It would be rich.
     
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    Shouldn't this be labeled OT now? :(
     
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    I think if we just win the division it will blow people's minds. I mean the Bills basically threw a virtual parade when Brady announced he was leaving.
     
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    It's kind of a zen-mood thing isn't it? You know that even though a return to the bad old days would have a sour taste, it would be a taste and nothing more. There's a core deep within that will be forever radiant. My favorite way of saying it is "6 titles with ONE coach and ONE QB! Damn!" :cool:
     
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    With Brady and Belichick, we had a team that was expected to win the Super Bowl every year, and actually accomplished it about 1 out of every 3 years. That’s ridiculously amazing.

    That said, Belichick is still a good coach who surrounds himself with quality assistants and there is a solid ownership structure in place. We’re not going to see what we’ve seen anymore. Without a quality QB, I still have faith that the Pats could be like the Ravens so far this century - a Super Bowl win once a decade, a bad team once a decade, and a competitive team all the other years. With a decent QB (who isn’t and can never be Brady of course)? They could look like the Steelers - in it every year, win Super Bowls at a slightly better pace than the Ravens.

    It’s not what we’re accustomed to, but I’d be thrilled if that’s what the post-Brady era looks like.
     
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    I'm one to give slack during what is, for some, a grieving period.
     
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    I was thinking the same thing...What if?

    What if they start off crappy but a nice end-of-the season run gets them to 10-6 and are able to squeak into the playoffs. They win the WC round. Then the divisional like TN and back in the AFCCG.

    Along the way Stidham shows hes not going to ever be Brady but a good playoff QB. BB takes that $100m in cap space and reloads for 2021.

    I'm not expecting any of that next year but to sit here and be gloom and doom doesn't make sense to me.
     
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    My gut says it'll be a 7-9 to 9-7 season, so that would be the sweetest of salty-tear makers.
     
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    I am deeply suspicious of Arians' coaching "talent." (I can't find the direct quote, but I remember Arians one time calling himself a great coach -- which, as a Patriots fan, seems really weird.)

    Obviously I have on clue what really goes on behind the scenes, but whenever I see Arians getting buried with praise for coaching Peyton, Big Ben, Luck and Palmer, I can't help but wonder: maybe it's the other way around, and lucking into so many quality QBs has inflated his reputation. (And maybe it's about to happen again.)
     
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    It really comes down to what kind of person you are. Negative or positive. Optimistic or pessimistic. There is plenty of room to be a realist.

    I guess my point is I'm not dreading 2020 (if we have it). It could suck but there is $100m in cap space for 2021. This is a rebuild year and if they make the playoffs I will be beyond giddy.
     
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    Sayyyyy.... that reminds me of someone doing the exact same thing, right now. :D
     
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