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Tom Brady more confident than ever in throwing the football

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Hopefully we will get 3-4 more good years from him. He may be able to do more given the way he plays, his passion, and the state of the NFL.

However, that being said when he leaves it is going to hurt. Some of us have watched legends move on. I was too young for Orr and Williams and Russell etc. Watching Bird, Parrish, MacHale, Yaz, Neely, Bourque, Brown, all retire did not sting like this will.

Tom redefined the team and put it on the map
It seems like he was the first Boston athlete to hit megastardom (Giselle etc)
He won championships and came extremely close to winning a few more.
Put up a lot of records
He is in contention for GOAT at his position.

Since the only other Boston athletes that are considered, or in discussions for GOAT are Russell, Orr, and perhaps Williams (hitter) (Cy Young too I suppose) it makes it hard to think about the Patriots without TB.

He definitely belongs on the Mt Rushmore of Boston Sports with the 3 above
 
It's amazing how close he is to 6 already - - '06, '07 and '11.
Those still hurt.

Gronk has to get healthy.
 
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It's amazing how close he is to 6 already - - '06, '07 and '11.
Those still hurt.

Gronk has to get healthy.

I know. I have been walking around like Rain Man mumbling about it for a while. No need to rehash the SBs. The 06 team would have killed Chicago. Couldnt hold a fuxxin 21-3 lead. That game still hurts.

07 would have shut up the Schulas and Mecury Morris's on that team. That alone would have been worth it. God were they obnoxious. 11 would have paid back the Gmen, shut up the spygate and cemented TB as the goat.

The only issue now, is that Tom's confidence is great, but is his ability still there and how long will it last. He is certainly still elite but the brain and body sometime work on separate schedules. I am sure he will be ok if he is protected.

And, if he does not win another SB (which would be depressing) can he still be considered the GOAT?
 
I worried when Tom Martinez passed whether Brady would become a but untethered mechanics-wise.

Hearing about how he is now with Tom House makes me feel alot better about that.

House is a pretty interesting character. Former very good relief pitcher, he caught Hank Aaron's 715 home run in 1974, has a PhD in Psychology and has broken new ground in teaching pitching mechanics for over 25 years.

What is fascinating is his stable of students shows that his is not a "one size fits all" philosophy. His worked the longest with Drew Brees who is a short QB who slings the ball, far different from the straight over the top throwing motions of some of his other students like Cassell or Brady. Tebow was sent to him in an emergency situation a few weeks before TC last year, and it was just too late - - but reports say House improved his throwing (relative term of course).

House seems to fit to what is there, instead of hammering the same style to everyone.
 
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We know that Tom can throw the ball. Still open in 2013 is Gisele's quandary, does he have to catch it too?
 
I'm glad we have 12. He says it and means it every year, it seems. But he does say it every year. LOL This news beats another Gronk story, though, so I'll take it!
 
It's amazing how close he is to 6 already - - '06, '07 and '11.
Those still hurt.

Gronk has to get healthy.

I'm hoping it isn't quite the "all or nothing" situation based on Gronkowski's health, Shmessy. If so, we're all going to be slightly nervous for awhile. I'd rather view Gronk's situation as "the icing on the cake."

The common theme to the years you listed of '06, '07, and '11 are all late game defensive collapses that led to back breaking long TD drives at the very end of the game.

If this defense can improve upon the passing game/3rd down ratio, and also rush the passer more effectively, we can actually get pretty far on that competitiveness alone.
 
The common theme to the years you listed of '06, '07, and '11 are all late game defensive collapses that led to back breaking long TD drives at the very end of the game.

I hear ya, but dunno about that as a core 'theme", Supa. The Pats O averaged 15.5 points in those 2 Super Bowls.
 
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I wish I were more confident about who will be catching his throws. I'm a a low point, since 2006 anyway, considering health issues of TEs and new guys to fit in.
 
I hear ya, but dunno about that as a core 'theme", Supa. The Pats O averaged 15.5 points in those 2 Super Bowls.

2011 was the most puzzling they got extremely hot the end of the 1st half and the 1st drive of the 2nd, then nothing for the rest of the game

Total team failure.
 
I hear ya, but dunno about that as a core 'theme", Supa. The Pats O averaged 15.5 points in those 2 Super Bowls.

The offense handed the defense the keys to the game with the lead on both occasions. On both of those occasions, the defense fell apart and allowed the game winning drive.
 
The offense handed the defense the keys to the game with the lead on both occasions. On both of those occasions, the defense fell apart and allowed the game winning drive.

Defense also gave them the ball numerous times and the #1 offense in the league both times pooped itself and only mustered 17 and 14 points. Both sides of the ball sucked hard.

If you knew the defense was going to give up 17 and 21 points respectively before the game we all would have thought that we'd have 2 more Lombardis.
 
The offense handed the defense the keys to the game with the lead on both occasions. On both of those occasions, the defense fell apart and allowed the game winning drive.

Yep, the d failed unfortunately.
 
How about this for G.O.A.T.

Tom Brady is not only the Greatest football player of all time but he is the greatest player to have ever participated in sport.

If he says he is more confident now than ever than the NFL should watch out and Dobson, Boyce, and Amendola just need to hop on and enjoy the ride because Tom is going to make you famous.
 
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And, if he does not win another SB (which would be depressing) can he still be considered the GOAT?

Hey Young 'uns - He is not, nor can he ever be - even hypothetically with time machines and stuff- the Greatest of All Time. That is Sammy Baugh. Before him the QB was part of a four man back field as a RB who might throw as often as LaDainian Tomlison and he tacitly changed how the position is played.

And for you specially enabled posters bring up Montana's four championships: Otto Graham had a ten year career and ended up in the championship 10 seasons and won 7 of them. (The first four were with the now defunct AAFC.) Did Montana have a few non-playoff years?
 
I'm hoping it isn't quite the "all or nothing" situation based on Gronkowski's health, Shmessy. If so, we're all going to be slightly nervous for awhile. I'd rather view Gronk's situation as "the icing on the cake."

The common theme to the years you listed of '06, '07, and '11 are all late game defensive collapses that led to back breaking long TD drives at the very end of the game.

If this defense can improve upon the passing game/3rd down ratio, and also rush the passer more effectively, we can actually get pretty far on that competitiveness alone.

I hear ya, but dunno about that as a core 'theme", Supa. The Pats O averaged 15.5 points in those 2 Super Bowls.

The offense handed the defense the keys to the game with the lead on both occasions. On both of those occasions, the defense fell apart and allowed the game winning drive.

Yep, the d failed unfortunately.

What are you guys talking about? It is a pity the NFL canceled Super Bowls XLII, XX, and XLVI.
 
Hey Young 'uns - He is not, nor can he ever be - even hypothetically with time machines and stuff- the Greatest of All Time. That is Sammy Baugh. Before him the QB was part of a four man back field as a RB who might throw as often as LaDainian Tomlison and he tacitly changed how the position is played.

And for you specially enabled posters bring up Montana's four championships: Otto Graham had a ten year career and ended up in the championship 10 seasons and won 7 of them. (The first four were with the now defunct AAFC.) Did Montana have a few non-playoff years?

Young'uns lol I like that.

I think we are discussing the SB era although Sammy was great and innovative and all that. But passing back then was a trick play and I dont think defenses even know how to defend it.

Plus these are Baugh's stats.

Pass attempts 2,995
Pass completions 1,693
Percentage 56.5
TD-INT 187-203
Passing yards 21,886
QB Rating 72.2

For Comparison here are Bradys.

Pass attempts 5,958
Pass completions 3,798
Percentage 63.7
TD–INT 334–123
Passing yards 44,806
Passer rating 96.6
 
Hopefully this translates into a confident receiving core, confident O. And then this helps the D get better.
 
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