Thoughts on todays cuts

[Ring 6]

BB cut 7 fringe players today. I think the net cap impact is negligible.
I'm not sure what the motivation was to do so today, given that we are well under roster limits.
Anyone have ideas on why doing this now makes sense?

 

[supafly]

BB cut 7 fringe players today. I think the net cap impact is negligible.
I'm not sure what the motivation was to do so today, given that we are well under roster limits.
Anyone have ideas on why doing this now makes sense?

I was actually hoping that you may know

Does seem a bit odd, unless the thought was aimed at the benefit of the players? In this case though, it isn't like they are going to be getting any attention in FA, so that takes us back to square one.

 

[Ring 6]

I was actually hoping that you may know

Does seem a bit odd, unless the thought was aimed at the benefit of the players? In this case though, it isn't like they are going to be getting any attention in FA, so that takes us back to square one.

Doubt BB gives up an asset just because they are a long shot.
I am guessing there is something in the CBA and cap rules that creates some minor advantage of doing it today. No clue what it may be.

 

[jsull87]

A thought someone had that i could possibly agree with is just getting the fringe of their roster ready come FA (depending on who else's scrubs are cut).

Also with a deep draft the UDFA class could be an interesting one especially for WR, OG and TE competition.

As to the timing i think we speculate. IMO they are just being proactive with guys they don't think they need at the moment.

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

Roster space for the 20 FAs they will sign tomorrow?

 

[supafly]

IMO they are just being proactive with guys they don't think they need at the moment.

That's kind of where I was trying to go as well, with the thought of allowing those players the benefit of hitting the open market. Of course, as I mentioned, it's not like they are going to see any looks or interest though.

It's difficult to try and judge Belichick's feelings on whether or not they were assets to the team, or whether they were just fringe players/guys who probably weren't going to make it.

I think I'd have to side with Andy's thinking in the sense that there may be some type of clause in those specific pacts, etc. Otherwise, the timing seems to be kind of odd, to say the least.

 

[Patriot Missile]

Maybe for some more free agents? Maybe to give the guys a fair shake to reach out to other teams to get picked up?

 

[primetime]

Possibly some clause in the contract related to physicals and the start of a new league year.

 

[Armchair Quarterback]

BB cut 7 fringe players today. I think the net cap impact is negligible.
I'm not sure what the motivation was to do so today, given that we are well under roster limits.
Anyone have ideas on why doing this now makes sense?

Two had failed physicals.

 

[mgteich]

Perhaps.

Weren't all these folks coming of the IR?

In any case, the staff has a protocol. The staff often clears the decks at this time of year.

There is no reason to keep folks that the team has decided have no future with the team. Belichick will sign lots and lots more camp fodder. Once in awhile he hits paydirt with these UDFA level players. However, UDFA players who have been away for a year with injuries are rarely worth keeping.

Possibly some clause in the contract related to physicals and the start of a new league year.

 

[Ring 6]

That's kind of where I was trying to go as well, with the thought of allowing those players the benefit of hitting the open market. Of course, as I mentioned, it's not like they are going to see any looks or interest though.

It's difficult to try and judge Belichick's feelings on whether or not they were assets to the team, or whether they were just fringe players/guys who probably weren't going to make it.

I think I'd have to side with Andy's thinking in the sense that there may be some type of clause in those specific pacts, etc. Otherwise, the timing seems to be kind of odd, to say the least.

He had them under contract, so they were assets. Most were on the practice squad meaning they were a heart beat from a roster spot.

I don't see any football reason to do it. BB is famous for his feelings about players developing between year 1 and 2. Somewhere I feel there is a loophole being exploited.

 

[Ring 6]

Perhaps.

Weren't all these folks coming of the IR?

In any case, the staff has a protocol. The staff often clears the decks at this time of year.

There is no reason to keep folks that the team has decided have no future with the team. Belichick will sign lots and lots more camp fodder. Once in awhile he hits paydirt with these UDFA level players. However, UDFA players who have been away for a year with injuries are rarely worth keeping.

They have never done this before. Its hard for me to accept that he kept players on the practice squad for major parts of last season, and before laying eyes on them again, he cuts them.

 

[gobesmug]

Maybe they failed to RSVP to BB's annual brunch for JAGs:noidea:

 

[DocHoliday]

He's trading down in every pick and we'll need every spot

 

[Jimke]

A thought someone had that i could possibly agree with is just getting the fringe of their roster ready come FA (depending on who else's scrubs are cut).

Also with a deep draft the UDFA class could be an interesting one especially for WR, OG and TE competition.

As to the timing i think we speculate. IMO they are just being proactive with guys they don't think they need at the moment.[/QUOTE

Five of these guys were on IR and the other two late additions to the
practice squad. Better to get fresh healthy UDFAs in a deep draft year
as you mentioned.

 

[Armchair Quarterback]

He had them under contract, so they were assets. Most were on the practice squad meaning they were a heart beat from a roster spot.

I don't see any football reason to do it. BB is famous for his feelings about players developing between year 1 and 2. Somewhere I feel there is a loophole being exploited.

As primetime mentioned, a new calender year for the league starts tomorrow. They did the same thing last year (on 3-4-12) with Spencer Larsen and Kyle Hix who were both on IR in 2012. I can't recall the last UDFA who made the team after spending year one on IR.

McGuffie and Reed were signed to the PS on Dec 27th and 30th, respectively. Moe and Grissom spent the entire year on IR as did Fisher and Schwab I believe. Fisher and Hines failed physicals.

 

[Brady6]

BB cut 7 fringe players today. I think the net cap impact is negligible.
I'm not sure what the motivation was to do so today, given that we are well under roster limits.
Anyone have ideas on why doing this now makes sense?

I think since the expansion of the rosters to 90 players Belichick has been carrying a lot of dead weight through the offseason. There are only so many coaches compared to players and the time spent on a player like Corey Grissom would be better on Chris Jones or Armond Armstead. In years past, he signed more players to futures contracts as well, but outside of players already in the organization, he did not sign any others.

My thinking is he is simply trying to keep a tighter camp, he has a lot of new coaches on his staff this year and probably wants to focus on the players with the best shot at making the 53 man roster, he will add camp bodies when he needs them in May and June. I could be wrong.

 

[patsderoer]

Uf McGuffie has the skills to be Woodhead 2.0 and to be a competent backup to Vereen. Dunno why they let him go without giving him a shot in camp.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Uf McGuffie has the skills to be Woodhead 2.0 and to be a competent backup to Vereen. Dunno why they let him go without giving him a shot in camp.

I have no idea why they cut McGuffie, but it is worth noting that he had a concussion history in college.

 

[BradyBranch39]

I think since the expansion of the rosters to 90 players Belichick has been carrying a lot of dead weight through the offseason. There are only so many coaches compared to players and the time spent on a player like Corey Grissom would be better on Chris Jones or Armond Armstead. In years past, he signed more players to futures contracts as well, but outside of players already in the organization, he did not sign any others.

My thinking is he is simply trying to keep a tighter camp, he has a lot of new coaches on his staff this year and probably wants to focus on the players with the best shot at making the 53 man roster, he will add camp bodies when he needs them in May and June. I could be wrong.

This makes sense. And gave me an idea: The guys cut today won't be learning any new plays that might be implemented, leaving them with less knowledge of our system if they land elsewhere.

Also, we still have one of the smallest coaching staffs in the NFL.