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This Patriots offense with Keenan Allen instead of Dobson

Discussion in 'The Practice Squad' started by NG Pats Fan, Dec 9, 2013.

  1. Fencer

    Fencer Pro Bowl Player

    For starters, we might have better health at WR, but worse depth at LB.
     
  2. PATRlOT

    PATRlOT Banned

    Allen is definitely more NFL ready. I believe Dobson will do some great things here, but it's just a matter of when, and how much he has the potential of doing.
     
  3. jsull87

    jsull87 In the Starting Line-Up

    Yep agree both WR's are fine and it's too early to tell how they will go in their careers.

    Dobson is injured atm so it looks like a case of "out of site out of mind" for pats fans with a memory shorter than 2 weeks.
     
  4. PatsFan2

    PatsFan2 In the Starting Line-Up

    Collins his going to be good I love the pick...he's a far cry for unathletic Hightower.:rolleyes:
     
  5. Deus Irae

    Deus Irae PatsFans.com Retired Jersey Club PatsFans.com Supporter

    Well, I would assume that the Patriots would have gotten a LB somewhere rather than going into the season with fewer of them. They might not have drafted Boyce, or Thompkins might have been cut, or something like that, but I can't see BB saying "Well, we had our chance to add a linebacker, but we drafted a WR instead, so I guess that's it."
     
  6. Froob

    Froob Independent Investigator & pliable af PatsFans.com Supporter

    One thing we can be sure of, if Keenan Allen was producing, he'd probably be seriously injured at this point of the season and thus not be very helpful for our playoff run.
     
  7. Froob

    Froob Independent Investigator & pliable af PatsFans.com Supporter

    Wonder if they would shake things up a bit and let Collins play the Mayo role instead. I think Hightower will be back on track next season back in his rookie season role.
     
  8. IcyPatriot

    IcyPatriot Moderator Staff Member PatsFans.com Supporter

    No problem here ... Belichick knew what he was drafting and Dobson needs some time.

    I thought he drafted him as an outside the lines possession type to open up the middle because Lloyd really failed to do that last year. We needed a stretch the field sideways receiver for the last few years. I think the old fashioned stretch the field receivers are not as helpful as the open the field horizontally type in today's NFL ... the safeties and corners are extremely athletic and combined with pass rushing beasts they can render your deep threat useless ... and we saw that in the Giants Super Bowl.

    I slightly remember that Brady was timed as one of the quickest ever in throwing the sideline pass ... if I am wrong I am sure someone can correct that ???

    Aaron Dobson Draft Profile ? NFL.com
     
    Last edited: Dec 9, 2013
  9. manxman2601

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    I don't think you can ignore the fact of Collins' athleticism. In hindsight, I think when Collins fell to us in the second round, he was a lock because of that rare athleticism. BB likes that upside , particularly in the second round. Didn't he say in one of those Holley books that the 2nd round is where you take first rounders who have fallen because they lack something. Collins had first round athleticism and skills but didn't have the experience. On the other hand, Allen was a slow gimpy WR. Why take two Dobson's when you can get one Dobson and someone with that level of athleticism?

    Just noticed this. Collins was the top performer in the broad jump in the last eight years at the combine and one of the best performers in the vert. One other player who also was near the top in both disciplines is Darius Butler, another BB second rounder.
     
  10. PatsFan2

    PatsFan2 In the Starting Line-Up

    manman I liked your post about Collins until right there in Bold not a ringing endorsement.:D I think Collins will be the exception.
     
  11. mosi

    mosi In the Starting Line-Up

    Man, if we had Keenan Allen we might be 10-3.
     
  12. manxman2601

    manxman2601 PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    I certainly hope so.
     
  13. JMC00

    JMC00 Pro Bowl Player

    Don't forget there are two guys in Mark Harrison (who I think Bill might envision taking a Hernandez type role) and TJ Moe that will have had a year sitting in meetings and learning the playbook.

    Dobson
    Thompkins
    Boyce
    Edelman (if re-signed)
    Amendola
    Moe
    Harrison (WR/H-Back)

    Could be a really really good receiving corps.
     
  14. The_Riddler

    The_Riddler 2nd Team Getting Their First Start

    What about Cordarelle Patterson. Kid is going to be a superstar and he's doing everything he can on his own with garbage QBs. He's the one we will kick ourselves over passing on when it's all said and done.
     
  15. Deus Irae

    Deus Irae PatsFans.com Retired Jersey Club PatsFans.com Supporter

    I didn't list him as an option because he went higher than the Collins spot.
     
  16. A man named Brady

    A man named Brady Third String But Playing on Special Teams

    We should really be 11-1.

    I like Dobson though, his ability to beat one on one coverage will be key in the playoffs for us
     
  17. ctpatsfan77

    ctpatsfan77 PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    My biggest concern is that receivers who've "redshirted" in this offense have rarely amounted to much.
     
  18. ctpatsfan77

    ctpatsfan77 PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    Umm . . . they're 10–3 right now. ;)
     
  19. manxman2601

    manxman2601 PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    That is a small sample size though. I'm not sure how much should be taken from that.
     
  20. Fencer

    Fencer Pro Bowl Player

    Ben Watson and David Givens are, while not precise, at least approximate counterexamples.
     

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