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Exponent and also some individual Pats-hating fans point out that there was a lot more variation in the pressure drop of the Pats balls than of the Colts balls, and that this is proof of human intervention.

Without checking their numbers against those in the Wells report, I'd like to give my response in case their numbers are actually right, which may be summarized as -- well, duh. The human intervention was balls being taken out of the ball bag and put into play, where humans then handled them with considerable force.

And while we don't know for a fact that different footballs were used for different series, it makes sense that they would have been, given how much the weather was messing up the balls.
 
AEI had a very simple explanation: Colts balls were measured roughly 15-20 minutes after Patriots balls, so they had time to warm up. The best part is, though, we are relying on the memory of Walt Anderson to provide us with the starting PSI of 24 different balls, when he wasn't credible enough to remember which gauge he used. Colts balls could very well have started at 13.3, 13.4. It seems more likely a quarterback would prefer the ball on either high end or the low end, since the range is just a random pair of numbers.

I'm not even sure how we are still talking about this six months later and several months after the Wells Propaganda was released. That the entire literate world hasn't called for Goodell's head is baffling.
 
It doesn't matter because they did not document how long each ball was indoors, not to mention what the temperature was, so there is no method to calculate what the differences should be.
The last balls gauged would have significantly higher psi than the first, but since no one bothered to collect the data, the measurements are meaningless compared to each other.

Its like saying we both bought gas on Tuesday and since I have more gas than you today my car gets better gas mileage.
 
AEI had a very simple explanation: Colts balls were measured roughly 15-20 minutes after Patriots balls, so they had time to warm up. The best part is, though, we are relying on the memory of Walt Anderson to provide us with the starting PSI of 24 different balls, when he wasn't credible enough to remember which gauge he used. Colts balls could very well have started at 13.3, 13.4. It seems more likely a quarterback would prefer the ball on either high end or the low end, since the range is just a random pair of numbers.

I'm not even sure how we are still talking about this six months later and several months after the Wells Propaganda was released. That the entire literate world hasn't called for Goodell's head is baffling.

All that aside, without knowing the temp inside pregame, inside halftime and outside during the first half, the data is incomplete.
 
Comparing the range of the entire set of 11 Patriots footballs to the range of a subset of only 4 Colts footballs, 4 balls that were chosen based upon totally unknown criteria, is silly. Especially when the two different sets of footballs had been handled differently, stored on the sidelines differently, and used in the game for greatly differing amounts of time. Anyone who reads too much into that is searching for a boogeyman.
 
All that aside, without knowing the temp inside pregame, inside halftime and outside during the first half, the data is incomplete.

Ahh. A post of your today I can emphatically agree with.
 
Does the difference in variation in pressure drop argument even deserve a response? There were only three Colts balls that were measured without transcription errors. It's kind of hard to make a strong claim about variance for a sample size of three or four.
 
Don't forget that only 4 Colts balls were measured as well.
 
Comparing the range of the entire set of 11 Patriots footballs to the range of a subset of only 4 Colts footballs, 4 balls that were chosen based upon totally unknown criteria, is silly. Especially when the two different sets of footballs had been handled differently, stored on the sidelines differently, and used in the game for greatly differing amounts of time. Anyone who reads too much into that is searching for a boogeyman.

Of course. The data is too dirty for ANY reliable conclusion.

But I was going further, in the direction of "Let's pretend that this spotty data happens to have reflected reality fairly accurately after all. What then can or can't be inferred?"
 
People can read all these reports and quess at all the variables but after it all they still can not concieve that colder temperatures can decrease the pressure of a football or even a car tire. Some people just can't figure it out monastery how many times you tell them. I hope patriots do their own psi recordings during game days so all the haters can eat their words.
 
It doesn't matter because they did not document how long each ball was indoors, not to mention what the temperature was, so there is no method to calculate what the differences should be.
The last balls gauged would have significantly higher psi than the first, but since no one bothered to collect the data, the measurements are meaningless compared to each other.

Its like saying we both bought gas on Tuesday and since I have more gas than you today my car gets better gas mileage.

Strange - when you look at the halftime measurement numbers from the Wells Report, if you assume that they at least got the sequence right. Also, all the balls had been subjected to the same elements while on the field and came in at the same time. You would expect that the readings would go up as the balls warmed. Each ball after the first one should be slightly higher as they warm up. However - that is not the case in the measurements. The last 4 NEP balls (the ones that should have been the highest) are actually LOWER than the first ball measured. Same with the colt balls, the last one measured is the lowest.

I don't know what to think. Maybe the first ball out was never used and was thus dryer and warmer and the last ones were ones used on the field. Who knows but it just struck me how very strange this is.

Pats Balls
1 11.5 11.8
2 10.85 11.2
3 11.15 11.5
4 10.7 11
5 11.1 11.45
6 11.6 11.95
7 11.85 12.3
8 11.1 11.55
9 10.95 11.35
10 10.5 10.9
11 10.9 11.34

Colts Balls
1 12.7 12.35
2 12.75 12.3
3 12.95 12.5
4 12.55 12.15
 
All that aside, without knowing the temp inside pregame, inside halftime and outside during the first half, the data is incomplete.

How about the pregame PSI, the precise time at which each ball was measured at halftime (this makes an enormous difference and no one has any idea about this, certainly not AEI), how wet each ball was, which gauge was used...it can go on and on. This is not science, it is just guesswork. Use one set of assumptions and there must have been human intervention, use another set and there could be no human intervention. The "science" is completely inconclusive. And so is every other piece of evidence in this utter fiasco.
 
Without even getting into things like impact of footballs used in gameplay and whatnot, this was a pretty thorough debunking that I don't think got enough play on here:
https://wellsreportcontext.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/mcintyre-analysis-of-wells-report.pdf

I believe he gets into the temp variability of Pats vs. Colts. But also keep in mind they gauged the Pats balls at the start of halftime, when the slope of the curve is greater (i.e. more temp variability between start of halftime and 0:30 in, 0:30 in to 1:00 in than at 10 minutes to 10:30, 10:30 to 11). And they gauged 11 Patriots footballs and only 4 Colts, so there was a longer timeframe between first and last measurement. If you group four of the Patriots readings the variability is in line with four of the Colts.

Anyway, it's a good read, it didn't get any press or nearly the amount of play on here that AEI did but I think McIntyre did a great job laying the science out.
 
Strange - when you look at the halftime measurement numbers from the Wells Report, if you assume that they at least got the sequence right. Also, all the balls had been subjected to the same elements while on the field and came in at the same time. You would expect that the readings would go up as the balls warmed. Each ball after the first one should be slightly higher as they warm up. However - that is not the case in the measurements. The last 4 NEP balls (the ones that should have been the highest) are actually LOWER than the first ball measured. Same with the colt balls, the last one measured is the lowest.

I don't know what to think. Maybe the first ball out was never used and was thus dryer and warmer and the last ones were ones used on the field. Who knows but it just struck me how very strange this is.

Pats Balls
1 11.5 11.8
2 10.85 11.2
3 11.15 11.5
4 10.7 11
5 11.1 11.45
6 11.6 11.95
7 11.85 12.3
8 11.1 11.55
9 10.95 11.35
10 10.5 10.9
11 10.9 11.34

Colts Balls
1 12.7 12.35
2 12.75 12.3
3 12.95 12.5
4 12.55 12.15

Another screw up in data, we do not know what order they gauged them in.
Also, there are variables in a football, and in its handling that would affect the IGL expectations.
You will never pump 2 balls up indoors at 70-something, take them outside for a few hours at 40-something, then bring them in and get exactly identical measurements.
That is another reason that there needs to be a margin of error, even if you had all the right data.
 
All you really need to do is create a range of error possible at each stage of the procedure. With respect to the initial measurements you have, most importantly, the issue of which gauge was used. Then you have the range of potential temperatures that the locker room may have been at when the balls were gauged by Anderson. Then you have the fact that his memory was imprecise as to the exact pressures of the balls, which I would say could easily have varied by 0.2 psi, without him having taking any specific note of it. Perhaps more. Between those three factors, I think you have a potential variation of up to 1 psi, given that the temperature could reasonably have been as low as 68 degrees and as high as, say, 76 degrees, without anyone having paid much attention or taken note.

Then you have the Patriots' 12 balls, which are unlikely to have been used to the same degree during the end of the first half. Some used more and wetter (and perhaps colder), the other remaining in the bag, remaining dry. No observations were made in this respect, but it would be very surprising if the balls were used to a uniform degree.

Then you have the inherent variability between different footballs, as highlighted by Belichick in his press conference on this subject, where he took a bunch of footballs and subjected them to essentially the same treatment and got significant variation. This has been recently reinforced by one of the officials commenting on the potential for slow leaks from footballs, in his experience, and his observation on the variability of footballs.

Then you have the intercepted football, measured three times by, I think, the same gauge, and getting three results, where the largest difference between the three measurements is greater than the problem that the Wells Report found with the Patriots' footballs. This would indicate either a) a lack of repeatability in the gauge used; b) a change in the conditions of the measurement (temperature, moisture); or c) the competence, or lack thereof, of the tester, and/or his memory. I think the lack of repeatability in the gauge is the most likely culprit. It's not like these are lab-grade pieces of equipment, as indicated by the more-or-less repeatable variation between the two used at half-time of 0.4 psi.

With all that potential for error in the measurement of pressure change, it would have been much more surprising if the footballs had followed a predictable rise in pressure with time. The entire "experiment" is just too filled with the potential for error. Of course, the Wells Report solution was to discard the entire timing factor as irrelevant, which is one of their stupidest conclusions, as pointed out by Brady's statistical expert.

An atmospheric physicist, or high school science teacher, with a background in experimental science could have pointed out these areas for potential error and imprecision, and perhaps many more. I would expect such a person to conclude that the only kind of difference between the pressure change in two sets of footballs detectable by this procedure would have had to be on the order of 2.5 to 3.0 psi. Perhaps more. Given the reality of conditions on a rainy football field, and the people doing the testing, it would be difficult to devise an experimental protocol that WOULD reveal small differences between two groups of footballs.

It's disappointing that the NFL didn't just say, "We can't tell what happened here. We think the Patriots' footballs decreased in pressure more than the Colts' footballs, but we can't really say why, and we're not really sure that our conditions were rigorous enough to even come to that conclusion. We just didn't have the procedures in place to identify the cause of pressure variations this small."

Too much to hope for.
 
Another screw up in data, we do not know what order they gauged them in.
Also, there are variables in a football, and in its handling that would affect the IGL expectations.
You will never pump 2 balls up indoors at 70-something, take them outside for a few hours at 40-something, then bring them in and get exactly identical measurements.
That is another reason that there needs to be a margin of error, even if you had all the right data.

It's hard to believe (well maybe not that hard) that they could not get the ball sequence right. First ball out of the bag is called Ball 1, second is Ball 2, etc.

I wonder if perhaps the Pats balls were not gauged but only given a squeeze. Or maybe the ref wasn't as precise as he said but only gave a squeeze and added/removed air based on feel. It was only afterward with all the attention that the process became retroactively so precise.

EDIT: I meant the pre-game check and how precise was the ref during the testing.
 
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It's hard to believe (well maybe not that hard) that they could not get the ball sequence right. First ball out of the bag is called Ball 1, second is Ball 2, etc.

I wonder if perhaps the Pats balls were not gauged but only given a squeeze. Or maybe the ref wasn't as precise as he said but only gave a squeeze and added/removed air based on feel. It was only afterward with all the attention that the process became retroactively so precise.

I would think the same thing, but I've seen nowhere that its been documented that the list has the balls in order.
If I'm not mistaken the balls are numbered by the ref pregame, so the numbering may indicate the number on the football rather than the order they were gauged.
 
It's hard to believe (well maybe not that hard) that they could not get the ball sequence right. First ball out of the bag is called Ball 1, second is Ball 2, etc.

I wonder if perhaps the Pats balls were not gauged but only given a squeeze. Or maybe the ref wasn't as precise as he said but only gave a squeeze and added/removed air based on feel. It was only afterward with all the attention that the process became retroactively so precise.
By the way, I also have never seen anyone question why the gauges were switched before measuring the Colts balls. A conspiracy theorist would have a field day with that.
 
I would think the same thing, but I've seen nowhere that its been documented that the list has the balls in order.
If I'm not mistaken the balls are numbered by the ref pregame, so the numbering may indicate the number on the football rather than the order they were gauged.
That is an excellent point however I think the fact that they were missing the intercepted ball would mean that there would be a hole in the measurements. So that if the ball labeled #4 was intercepted the sequence would jump from 3 to 5. Unless of course #12 was intercepted.
 
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