The Official Will Campbell Camp Thread

[BUSTAMOVE]

Campbell's tape in 2024 was not dominant against projected NFL players. Look at the game against Kennard. Have you really looked at the tape???

I have
Your talking about one game clip
Did you watch the other games

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

I have
Your talking about one game clip
Did you watch the other games

Only the games against teams that have players that are NFL caliber. Watching games against Baylor, LA Tech, SE LA, etc. are meaningless. If you think Campbell dominated you aren't looking at the important games. Campbell is good but not a #4 pick in most years. Dominant is an exaggeration and that is why a lot of draft guys think he will end up a guard.

 

[BUSTAMOVE]

Only the games against teams that have players that are NFL caliber. Watching games against Baylor, LA Tech, SE LA, etc. are meaningless. If you think Campbell dominated you aren't looking at the important games. Campbell is good but not a #4 pick in most years. Dominant is an exaggeration and that is why a lot of draft guys think he will end up a guard.

But GM’s in the NFL think he is a tackle.
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The “draft guys” are “draft guys for a reason

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

But GM’s in the NFL think he is a tackle.
Draft guys are fairy tale guys that get people to follow them
Make sure you hit the subscribe button
GM’s have all the inside info
Talking to coaches and players, Background checks. And the intelligence to actually become a GM
The “draft guys” are “draft guys for a reason

So you made up "dominant" based on what NFL GM's were telling you? Which GMs do you talk to?

 

[BUSTAMOVE]

So you made up "dominant" based on what NFL GM's were telling you? Which GMs do you talk to?

He letup 5 sacks in 2553 snaps in the SEC
2 in his first game
I read what a lot of GM’s are saying about Will
Why are you sleeping with your draft guru’s

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

He letup 5 sacks in 2553 snaps in the SEC
2 in his first game
I read what a lot of GM’s are saying about Will
Why are you sleeping with your draft guru’s

All right. Campbell is dominant. You convinced me. I say Uncle.

 

[patsfanfromoversea]

He letup 5 sacks in 2553 snaps in the SEC
2 in his first game
I read what a lot of GM’s are saying about Will
Why are you sleeping with your draft guru’s

2025 NFL Draft: Best offensive tackles on true pass sets

Jim Wyman reveals the 2025 NFL Draft's offensive tackles who performed best on true pass sets in 2024.

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where is will campbell?

not worth #4 pick

 

[manxman2601]

Campbell's tape in 2024 was not dominant against projected NFL players. Look at the game against Kennard. Have you really looked at the tape???

Just re-watched it. He gave up zero sacks and two inside pressures to Kennard who was voted the best defensive player in college football. The inside pressures are Campbell's achilles heel but that's an issue that seems coachable to me.

 

[bakes781]

Just re-watched it. He gave up zero sacks and two inside pressures to Kennard who was voted the best defensive player in college football. The inside pressures are Campbell's achilles heel but that's an issue that seems coachable to me.

He does get pushed backwards pretty regularly though.

But I suppose the benefit of short arms will be the unlikely hood of getting called for holding lol

 

[State]

Pats already paying a great deal for RT, RG, decent amount for a C, a number of candidates at LG. So taking a (forget short armed) but record small arm span and pay him #4 money to move to LG? Then get another very highly paid LT in the draft next year. Maybe a good line for '26 - but based on money spent? Very likely near bottom of the league.

Better get a physically correct LT in the 20-24 range and coach him up with a blocking TE to chip the Edge, and go to a 3 step drop RPO plan with Jeanty at #4.

You are a smart fellow. Good job, mate!

 

[State]

If Wyatt Milum had longer arms, he would be talked about as a slam dunk first-round pick due to how productive he’s been at West Virginia. Unfortunately, his arms measured in at 32 ⅛ inches, which ranks in the eighth percentile at the position, so a move to guard is likely in his NFL future, hurting his draft stock in the process.

Source

But Campbell’s arms are half an inch longer. Half an inch!

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Just re-watched it. He gave up zero sacks and two inside pressures to Kennard who was voted the best defensive player in college football. The inside pressures are Campbell's achilles heel but that's an issue that seems coachable to me.

I think the inside pressure is the arm length and wingspan issue. Campbell has limited reach so he sets up farther outside to avoid letting the player get around him and then tries to recover inside with his athleticism. If the player is too fast Campbell can't recover back inside like he can with less athletic college players.

Kennard is a R3 guy I think? If it is a faster guy Campbell will struggle like Thuney in the SB. Arm length is not just for punching. The wingspan issue is Campbell's shoulders are narrow limiting his reach and ability to push rushers wide and deep around the back of the QB, so he has to setup deeper exposing the inside.

Campbell is a good LT. With fast guys like Walker, Carter, etc., he will need a TE chip to limit their outside rush so Campbell can set up more inside. Clearly Campbell is 100x better than Lowe, but is not what I would look for in a #4 pick like Alt. Trent Brown was a R7 pick.

Did you see Mike Tice's analysis with his son? I am not a scout, just a guy on PatsFans.

 

[manxman2601]

I think the inside pressure is the arm length and wingspan issue. Campbell has limited reach so he sets up farther outside to avoid letting the player get around him and then tries to recover inside with his athleticism. If the player is too fast Campbell can't recover back inside like he can with less athletic college players.

Kennard is a R3 guy I think? If it is a faster guy Campbell will struggle like Thuney in the SB. Arm length is not just for punching. The wingspan issue is Campbell's shoulders are narrow limiting his reach and ability to push rushers wide and deep around the back of the QB, so he has to setup deeper exposing the inside.

Campbell is a good LT. With fast guys like Walker, Carter, etc., he will need a TE chip to limit their outside rush so Campbell can set up more inside. Clearly Campbell is 100x better than Lowe, but is not what I would look for in a #4 pick like Alt. Trent Brown was a R7 pick.

Did you see Mike Tice's analysis with his son? I am not a scout, just a guy on PatsFans.

I know Mike Tice isn't keen but on the other side of the scale, Duke Manyweather and Brandon Thorn insist he's the best OL in the draft.

If there was a clean alternative I'd be more open to it. I like Membou and if they're confident he can switch he might be my first choice. I don't want a RT at 4 though. Mason Graham, depending on Barmore, might just be a rotational piece, albeit a very good one. Walker is a tweener too small to play permanent edge (I still like him though) and Jeanty and Warren have the positional value issue.

I know I'm repeating myself but the reason I like the Campbell/Membou pick is how it affects the rest of the draft and that's what gives him the edge over the other non-perfect prospects.

Joe Alt is irrelevant to this draft.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

If there was a clean alternative I'd be more open to it.

I agree.

I like Membou and if they're confident he can switch he might be my first choice. I don't want a RT at 4 though.

I want a RT at #4 more than I want a LG at #4.

Mason Graham, depending on Barmore, might just be a rotational piece, albeit a very good one. Walker is a tweener too small to play permanent edge (I still like him though) and Jeanty and Warren have the positional value issue.

I agree, but I think Graham is a stud. Inside pass rush is invaluable.

I know I'm repeating myself but the reason I like the Campbell/Membou pick is how it affects the rest of the draft and that's what gives him the edge over the other non-perfect prospects.

Because you value need over BPA. If you pick BPA, there is no affect on the rest of the draft.

Joe Alt is irrelevant to this draft.

Somewhat true. History is always of value.

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

I know Mike Tice isn't keen but on the other side of the scale, Duke Manyweather and Brandon Thorn insist he's the best OL in the draft.

Fwiw Thorn thinks he should move inside.

Mayweather is getting paid by Campbell. So as much as Duke forgot more than I know. I don't entirely trust his opinion here. At best it's clouded a bit.

 

[Rdforty2]

2025 NFL Draft: Best offensive tackles on true pass sets

Jim Wyman reveals the 2025 NFL Draft's offensive tackles who performed best on true pass sets in 2024.

www.pff.com

where is will campbell?

not worth #4 pick

Hes also their #6 ranked prospect. Kind of tells you what you need to know about those numbers. #6 overall absolutely puts you in the #4 conversation in this draft.

 

[Rdforty2]

Fwiw Thorn thinks he should move inside.

Mayweather is getting paid by Campbell. So as much as Duke forgot more than I know. I don't entirely trust his opinion here. At best it's clouded a bit.

Membou is paying Manyweather, as well. Hes worked with both. His opinion is certainly relevant.

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

Membou is paying Manyweather, as well. Hes worked with both. His opinion is certainly relevant.

I'm not saying he's clueless or even wrong in his assessments. He's his client though. He has an agenda and you're not getting a completely unbiased pov anyway you slice it. It's very much worth noting.

 

[Clonamery]

Fwiw Thorn thinks he should move inside.

Mayweather is getting paid by Campbell. So as much as Duke forgot more than I know. I don't entirely trust his opinion here. At best it's clouded a bit.

We’re human, we’re biased.

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

We’re human, we’re biased.

Sure but not as much as someone I'm paying. It's not like his opinion doesn't matter but he's not going to tell you exactly what's he's thinking either. His job is to train and hype his guys up. I don't think there's anything wrong with that but it is what it is.