The new, new trade chart

[MoLewisrocks]

Atlanta is probably the least likely team to move from its top spot. I don't understand why posters keep bringing them up.

Because they understand that there really isn't slam dunk value in the top 5 picks this season absent some hype. Not even a clear cut #1, and it's debatable that the top QB in the draft is even realistically a top 10 pick, not to mention there are 3 more projected as late 1st or early 2nd rounders. They need a QB and lots more, so if they add another day 1 pick by moving down they could get what they need including a young QB for substantially less $$$. That's probably not what Blank and McKay would have done, but this draft is Tom Dimitroff's, and Belioli have likely schooled him well on drafting for value with an eye for real teambuilding vs. hype driven decisionmaking.

 

[SamBamsFan]

Because they understand that there really isn't slam dunk value in the top 5 picks this season absent some hype. Not even a clear cut #1, and it's debatable that the top QB in the draft is even realistically a top 10 pick, not to mention there are 3 more projected as late 1st or early 2nd rounders. They need a QB and lots more, so if they add another day 1 pick by moving down they could get what they need including a young QB for substantially less $$$. That's probably not what Blank and McKay would have done, but this draft is Tom Dimitroff's, and Belioli have likely schooled him well on drafting for value with an eye for real teambuilding vs. hype driven decisionmaking.

I believe that you are disagreeing with me but it's a little unclear that we are not talking about the same thing.
Atlanta's needs- DE, DT, QB, OG,CB, LB, OT (that would be my order).
Atlanta's Picks- 3, 33, 37, 48, 68, 98, 103, 138, 172, 212, 232.
What I am trying to say here (and I guess that I'm not clear), is that Atlanta can easily control their own destiny in this draft. By staying at #3 they are guaranteed to get one of the top players on the D line, the top rated QB, or the top rated OT. If they move back they lose the ability to take Dorsey, JLong, or Ryan. With their three picks in the 2nd, 2 in the 3rd, and a full compliment in the rounds to follow, they have a ability that is unique in this years draft to move as they choose, and select a player of their own choosing. I still think they want to stay at 3 to get the "Planet Player" to anchor this.

 

[JoePats]

I think the draft chart should be different for every team in every given draft.

For example, in this draft, where there is not a lot between the top 5 or 6 players, why would you use the same chart that you would in a year where there are one or two overwhelming players?

In a draft like last year where there wasn't much depth past the 2nd round, why would the numbers be the same compared to this year's draft, where there are plenty of good players in the 3rd and 4th round, certainly more than last year.

And yet the charts are the same for each year. That doesn't make any sense.

 

[JoeSixPat]

That's value in relation to other picks....not cash! The GMs thought there wasn't enough trade value attributed to #7 as opposed to #1 (in fact, it was really a correction in the value of the top three picks). The fact is that to get guys under contract, it's going to cost as much as ever.

If it weren't for player agents, maybe the chart could be used as the basis of a sliding pay scale for rookies.

Ah yes - good point... took me a bit to understand your point but everything in the first round - save for the very top picks, is adjusted as well, giving MORE value to later picks as well

No doubt money IS very much a factor in the adjustments - and indeed the value of #7 like most of the picks, hasn't changed much, but the later picks, relative to before, have much more value as well.

 

[jeffbiologist]

I think the draft chart should be different for every team in every given draft.

For example, in this draft, where there is not a lot between the top 5 or 6 players, why would you use the same chart that you would in a year where there are one or two overwhelming players?

In a draft like last year where there wasn't much depth past the 2nd round, why would the numbers be the same compared to this year's draft, where there are plenty of good players in the 3rd and 4th round, certainly more than last year.

And yet the charts are the same for each year. That doesn't make any sense.

While every team can place different values on individual players(basing where he is taken on "value"), the money and the cap remain consistent. Its how a team uses its resources based on its thoughts of good/bad drafts. We thought last year was a bad draft....and the Giants have like 6-7 rookies all make contributions....so alot depends on your team and your scouting as well. Teams need a common denominator that everyone can accept to make trades happen, remember there is ALOT less time this year because ESPN wants to make this a primetime event....and some teams are going to suffer for it, makes you think that collusion is almost inevitable.