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Kraft absolutely cares about his image. someone will convince him to move on from BB just like someone told him to accept the fines and draft picks
I think everybody here agrees that change is needed on the GM side. I'm not convinced he needs to stop being HC, too.
 
Kraft absolutely cares about his image. someone will convince him to move on from BB just like someone told him to accept the fines and draft picks
I think everybody here agrees that change is needed on the GM side. I'm not convinced he needs to stop being HC, too.
 
The Patriots are still a media-spectacle even though they suck, and that won’t end anytime soon. The Tom Brady era was like a star, and we’ll be living beneath its radiance long after it went supernova.

The media wants Belichick gone bad. In typical media fashion, the drum-beat for Patriot fans (and everyone else) will be a blend of the true (“it was mostly Tom”, duh, a player on the field), and the ******** (tHe GaMe HaS pAsSeD hIm By), which will be given credibility when mixed with smaller things that actually have merit, like his drafting.

Aside from some possible lingering final-nail-in-coffin Patriot hate, which I don’t think is at work here, they just want this to happen because it creates two major stories for _them_ going into next season, and stories = cash for them, new beachfront homes for them, new sports car for them, etc.

If you’re watching ESPN, or the NFL Network, this really is all it is.

They don’t give AF. It’s literally just about clicks and views, now and in securing them for the future. There are dudes who made millions of dollars just supplying the masses with “Tom Brady secretly sucks don’t believe you’re lying eyes” copium for the non-Patriot fan jaded masses ripping their hair out of their heads after getting crushed by him again.

Story #1: a new head coach for New England. Will he fail? Will he succeed? Either way, dollars, dollarinos, $Dan Marinos$. We can excitedly get behind the new exciting chapter or spend it talking about what a **** show disaster it is and how the new coach doesn’t even understand elementary clock management. If they suck it’s a Kraft disaster, and if they’re good, there’s a new face/character/personality behind a new team in the NFL.

$$$$

Story #2: Bill Belichick as head coach of the, say, San Diego Chargers. Massive hype leading into the season for San Diego. League parity. Off season winners. More dollars, more dollarinos, more $dan marinos$. Then the results, which is more dollars, regardless of what way it swings for the Chargers.

Belichick + Herbert = $$$$$

They did the same **** with Tom.

Tom on the Bucs was a major cash-grab story for the talking heads, whether he failed or succeeded. They’re like little girls who just love putting dolls in new outfits. Tom in Tampa was an infinitely more profitable season-story than Tom with the same ole’ boring ass Patriots. It’s the gift that keeps on giving as both a disaster or a success.
The local media (which I watch sometimes from Florida now for lulz), like Felger & Mazz are the most shamelessly transparent about exactly this.

They literally don’t even try to hide it.

Felger is always openly *****ing on-air about Belichick not giving the media things to feast on, and how sick of it he is. I decided almost ten years ago that he very clearly isn’t a Patriot fan at all, in the even slightest, and just makes his money in a Patriot market. He could care less about the well-being of the team and is solely out for **** to stir. I mean, with him it’s really shameless and I remain amazed he has a genuine audience.

This dude spent YEARS saying Brady was washed, trash, terrible, and that it was the magical Belichick “system.” Felger wanted Brady gone because Brady gone equals cold hard cash for Felger. Drama, drama, drama.
Now he wants Belichick gone for the same reason. In two years he’ll be shamelessly saying how dumb it was to move on from the proven Belichick for whatever ****-show we might exchange him for, and he’ll just pretend like he wasn’t fighting to get rid of Belichick the whole time. Callers and audience participants will comment on the ‘Current Thing’ and give him a pass on formerly wanting want he’s ‘*****ing’ about that afternoon in regards to Patriots-suckage.

Occasionally, if someone brings up his previous stances, he’ll pass over it with a quick concession about being wrong and then return to his money-*****ing about the situation he wanted.

I’d mostly be down for a regime change just to turn the page on the Brady era and let a completely revised team-identity come about, but the more I hear media-people call for Belichick’s head in New England, the more I think he should stay just for spite.

Sports journalists can be among the worst variety of journalists because they thrive from chaos, and so love creating it.

For the media, moving Belichick to another team takes one NFL character and turns him into two, because whoever replaces him will also immediately be a huge ‘character’ in the league for them to discuss.

It’s all so tiresome.
What planet do you live on?
Who do you think makes millions to write articles about NFL teams? M
Most of those guys make less than a plumber.
 
Yep....yep....the OP gets it.

The Media has been waiting for 24 seasons to rip BB a new a-hole......

**** the media...LFG!!!! Pats to win 10 in a row...starting right ****ing now mother****ers!!! And BB can mumble all he wants!!! LFG!!!
That should be every fans attitude, sadly too many revel in crowing about blame, failure and anger.
 
Belichick stories = media get paid ... cannot blame them for all the speculation.
Their job is to write about something. They don’t make more depending on what the story is.
 
That’s a hilariously bad take as definitive. Belichick was unleashing no-huddle Oregon run-offenses and transforming the TE threat with Brady/Gronk/Hernandez a decade ago.

The game isn’t any different now than it was then.

How can you say the game isn’t different? In 2013, all the top QBs were traditional pocket passers. There wasn’t a single duel threat QB like Jackson, Allen, or Mahomes that was considered any good.

In 2013, not a single QB rushed for over 700 yards. Cam Newton was first among QBs with 585. Five QBs in 2022 had over 700 rushing yards.

And you can look at the change of speed on both sides of the ball. Back in 2013, you basically only had the Seahawks and a handful of other defenses using small fast defenders and teams were still going with big mysterious d-lines. And speed on the o-line was also a rarity.

There are far more top talent receivers coming out of college than ever. We are seeing a generation of young athletes deciding to become receivers rather than RBs since the latter position has fallen out of favor. It isn’t unusual for teams to have two WRs who are #1 quality.

Add that FBs have virtually become extinct. Virtually every offense is now running RPOs which were considered too simple for the NFL and more of a college thing just five years ago. Defenses are now almost exclusively playing nickel and dime packages where ten years ago they were more of a third down defense.

The NFL is quite different today than it was ten years ago. The players are getting more athletic and faster. A lot of things that worked ten years ago don’t work today. The league is constantly evolving for better and for worse.
 
What planet do you live on?
Who do you think makes millions to write articles about NFL teams? M
Most of those guys make less than a plumber.
plumbers on Municipal contracts in MA make about $75/hr, no way Joe Blow from Yahoo sports makes anything close to that
 
How can you say the game isn’t different? In 2013, all the top QBs were traditional pocket passers. There wasn’t a single duel threat QB like Jackson, Allen, or Mahomes that was considered any good.

In 2013, not a single QB rushed for over 700 yards. Cam Newton was first among QBs with 585. Five QBs in 2022 had over 700 rushing yards.

And you can look at the change of speed on both sides of the ball. Back in 2013, you basically only had the Seahawks and a handful of other defenses using small fast defenders and teams were still going with big mysterious d-lines. And speed on the o-line was also a rarity.

There are far more top talent receivers coming out of college than ever. We are seeing a generation of young athletes deciding to become receivers rather than RBs since the latter position has fallen out of favor. It isn’t unusual for teams to have two WRs who are #1 quality.

Add that FBs have virtually become extinct. Virtually every offense is now running RPOs which were considered too simple for the NFL and more of a college thing just five years ago. Defenses are now almost exclusively playing nickel and dime packages where ten years ago they were more of a third down defense.

The NFL is quite different today than it was ten years ago. The players are getting more athletic and faster. A lot of things that worked ten years ago don’t work today. The league is constantly evolving for better and for worse.
In 2013, pocket passers were all the best quarterbacks in the league because all the best quarterbacks in the league were pocket passers. It’s really no more complicated than that.

Tua is Tua today because Brady and Peyton aren’t in the league anymore— not because the game has changed. If they were around, he would still be getting bumped out of playoff contention just like he would have been in 2013. Michael Vick’s highlight season was in 2010. He didn’t win **** and nobody ever believed he was going to. A Ray Lewis Ravens defense is going to potentially punch a 2023 Miami Dolphins team in the mouth just like they would do back then.

It’s the same game it’s been since 2006.

Mahomes lost major legacy games to Brady since coming into the league. Mahomes is Mahomes because Brady is 46 years old and gone.

The game is the same. The players aren’t “more athletic” than Deon Sanders.
 
In 2013, pocket passers were all the best quarterbacks in the league because all the best quarterbacks in the league were pocket passers. It’s really no more complicated than that.

Tua is Tua today because Brady and Peyton aren’t in the league anymore— not because the game has changed. If they were around, he would still be getting bumped out of playoff contention just like he would have been in 2013. Michael Vick’s highlight season was in 2010. He didn’t win **** and nobody ever believed he was going to. A Ray Lewis Ravens defense is going to potentially punch a 2023 Miami Dolphins team in the mouth just like they would do back then.

It’s the same game it’s been since 2006.

Mahomes lost major legacy games to Brady since coming into the league. Mahomes is Mahomes because Brady is 46 years old and gone.

The game is the same. The players aren’t “more athletic” than Deon Sanders.

In 2013 pocket passers were the best players in the league because the college game produced pocket passers. They don't produce pocket passers anymore. Hence why the game has changed so much.

It is not the same game since 2006. If you truly think that, you aren't watching. The game is always evolving. The NFL is constantly putting in new rules that change the game. The types of players being produced from the college ranks are constantly changing. The trending of offenses and defense are revised because of it. Yes, the current hot trend on offense is based off the old West Coast Offense, but there are a lot new twists to it making it different than the past. But then again, ten years ago, the West Coast Offense was not en vogue.

What made Belichick such a genius was that he used to be ahead of the trends.

If Brady came into the league today as a sixth round pocket passer, he probably would never had a chance to become the greatest of all time. Unfortunately, other than a handful of teams, the league doesn't value pocket passers. So there is a good chance that no one would have carried him long enough for him to retool his body and work on his skill set to be in position to take over for the starter when he went down.
 
That’s a hilariously bad take as definitive. Belichick was unleashing no-huddle Oregon run-offenses and transforming the TE threat with Brady/Gronk/Hernandez a decade ago.

The game isn’t any different now than it was then.
Lol
 
Ever since Bill and Tom separated the media has been trying to prove that Tom was a system quarterback all along. When that failed, they moved on to Bill -- with the Bill can't win without Tom narrative. Bill needs strong talents to win and isn't helping his case right now since he decides everything.
 
The only thing that has changed about Belichick is that he no longer has a talented team.
That said, he put this team together and he has to own it.
 
Probably still another 15 years of hate coming our way. Pats dominated the league for 2 decades, that takes a while to wear off.
I've gotten to like the criticism as a sign of how dominant they were. And I still get that grin on my face when it comes up here like this and reminds me of just how dominant they were..

On the negative side, the cheating part has still left a mark, thanks to some degree to the NYFL who helped create it as well as the media.
 
The Patriots are still a media-spectacle even though they suck, and that won’t end anytime soon. The Tom Brady era was like a star, and we’ll be living beneath its radiance long after it went supernova.

The media wants Belichick gone bad. In typical media fashion, the drum-beat for Patriot fans (and everyone else) will be a blend of the true (“it was mostly Tom”, duh, a player on the field), and the ******** (tHe GaMe HaS pAsSeD hIm By), which will be given credibility when mixed with smaller things that actually have merit, like his drafting.

Aside from some possible lingering final-nail-in-coffin Patriot hate, which I don’t think is at work here, they just want this to happen because it creates two major stories for _them_ going into next season, and stories = cash for them, new beachfront homes for them, new sports car for them, etc.

If you’re watching ESPN, or the NFL Network, this really is all it is.

They don’t give AF. It’s literally just about clicks and views, now and in securing them for the future. There are dudes who made millions of dollars just supplying the masses with “Tom Brady secretly sucks don’t believe you’re lying eyes” copium for the non-Patriot fan jaded masses ripping their hair out of their heads after getting crushed by him again.

Story #1: a new head coach for New England. Will he fail? Will he succeed? Either way, dollars, dollarinos, $Dan Marinos$. We can excitedly get behind the new exciting chapter or spend it talking about what a **** show disaster it is and how the new coach doesn’t even understand elementary clock management. If they suck it’s a Kraft disaster, and if they’re good, there’s a new face/character/personality behind a new team in the NFL.

$$$$

Story #2: Bill Belichick as head coach of the, say, San Diego Chargers. Massive hype leading into the season for San Diego. League parity. Off season winners. More dollars, more dollarinos, more $dan marinos$. Then the results, which is more dollars, regardless of what way it swings for the Chargers.

Belichick + Herbert = $$$$$

They did the same **** with Tom.

Tom on the Bucs was a major cash-grab story for the talking heads, whether he failed or succeeded. They’re like little girls who just love putting dolls in new outfits. Tom in Tampa was an infinitely more profitable season-story than Tom with the same ole’ boring ass Patriots. It’s the gift that keeps on giving as both a disaster or a success.
The local media (which I watch sometimes from Florida now for lulz), like Felger & Mazz are the most shamelessly transparent about exactly this.

They literally don’t even try to hide it.

Felger is always openly *****ing on-air about Belichick not giving the media things to feast on, and how sick of it he is. I decided almost ten years ago that he very clearly isn’t a Patriot fan at all, in the even slightest, and just makes his money in a Patriot market. He could care less about the well-being of the team and is solely out for **** to stir. I mean, with him it’s really shameless and I remain amazed he has a genuine audience.

This dude spent YEARS saying Brady was washed, trash, terrible, and that it was the magical Belichick “system.” Felger wanted Brady gone because Brady gone equals cold hard cash for Felger. Drama, drama, drama.
Now he wants Belichick gone for the same reason. In two years he’ll be shamelessly saying how dumb it was to move on from the proven Belichick for whatever ****-show we might exchange him for, and he’ll just pretend like he wasn’t fighting to get rid of Belichick the whole time. Callers and audience participants will comment on the ‘Current Thing’ and give him a pass on formerly wanting want he’s ‘*****ing’ about that afternoon in regards to Patriots-suckage.

Occasionally, if someone brings up his previous stances, he’ll pass over it with a quick concession about being wrong and then return to his money-*****ing about the situation he wanted.

I’d mostly be down for a regime change just to turn the page on the Brady era and let a completely revised team-identity come about, but the more I hear media-people call for Belichick’s head in New England, the more I think he should stay just for spite.

Sports journalists can be among the worst variety of journalists because they thrive from chaos, and so love creating it.

For the media, moving Belichick to another team takes one NFL character and turns him into two, because whoever replaces him will also immediately be a huge ‘character’ in the league for them to discuss.

It’s all so tiresome.
The title says that they hate us but isn't it really that the media hates Belichick? And if I were in the media and had to try and make a living covering the Pats I would too. Look at the way he treats them.
 
"The Patriots are bad but people shouldn't say it"
 
In 2013, pocket passers were all the best quarterbacks in the league because all the best quarterbacks in the league were pocket passers. It’s really no more complicated than that.

Tua is Tua today because Brady and Peyton aren’t in the league anymore— not because the game has changed. If they were around, he would still be getting bumped out of playoff contention just like he would have been in 2013. Michael Vick’s highlight season was in 2010. He didn’t win **** and nobody ever believed he was going to. A Ray Lewis Ravens defense is going to potentially punch a 2023 Miami Dolphins team in the mouth just like they would do back then.

It’s the same game it’s been since 2006.

Mahomes lost major legacy games to Brady since coming into the league. Mahomes is Mahomes because Brady is 46 years old and gone.

The game is the same. The players aren’t “more athletic” than Deon Sanders.
The players are bigger and getting bigger all the time and that makes for some violent impacts. There also seems to be more of an edge these days, as if players are trying to injure other players.

As for pocket passers vs running QBs, it's pretty clear what happened. College coaches started trying to win games and save their jobs rather than train QBs to be better NFL style pocket passers. The irony is that unless those QBs pass more and run less, they still aren't able to win in the NYFL... yet.
 
The Patriots are still a media-spectacle even though they suck, and that won’t end anytime soon. The Tom Brady era was like a star, and we’ll be living beneath its radiance long after it went supernova.

The media wants Belichick gone bad. In typical media fashion, the drum-beat for Patriot fans (and everyone else) will be a blend of the true (“it was mostly Tom”, duh, a player on the field), and the ******** (tHe GaMe HaS pAsSeD hIm By), which will be given credibility when mixed with smaller things that actually have merit, like his drafting.

Aside from some possible lingering final-nail-in-coffin Patriot hate, which I don’t think is at work here, they just want this to happen because it creates two major stories for _them_ going into next season, and stories = cash for them, new beachfront homes for them, new sports car for them, etc.

If you’re watching ESPN, or the NFL Network, this really is all it is.

They don’t give AF. It’s literally just about clicks and views, now and in securing them for the future. There are dudes who made millions of dollars just supplying the masses with “Tom Brady secretly sucks don’t believe you’re lying eyes” copium for the non-Patriot fan jaded masses ripping their hair out of their heads after getting crushed by him again.

Story #1: a new head coach for New England. Will he fail? Will he succeed? Either way, dollars, dollarinos, $Dan Marinos$. We can excitedly get behind the new exciting chapter or spend it talking about what a **** show disaster it is and how the new coach doesn’t even understand elementary clock management. If they suck it’s a Kraft disaster, and if they’re good, there’s a new face/character/personality behind a new team in the NFL.

$$$$

Story #2: Bill Belichick as head coach of the, say, San Diego Chargers. Massive hype leading into the season for San Diego. League parity. Off season winners. More dollars, more dollarinos, more $dan marinos$. Then the results, which is more dollars, regardless of what way it swings for the Chargers.

Belichick + Herbert = $$$$$

They did the same **** with Tom.

Tom on the Bucs was a major cash-grab story for the talking heads, whether he failed or succeeded. They’re like little girls who just love putting dolls in new outfits. Tom in Tampa was an infinitely more profitable season-story than Tom with the same ole’ boring ass Patriots. It’s the gift that keeps on giving as both a disaster or a success.
The local media (which I watch sometimes from Florida now for lulz), like Felger & Mazz are the most shamelessly transparent about exactly this.

They literally don’t even try to hide it.

Felger is always openly *****ing on-air about Belichick not giving the media things to feast on, and how sick of it he is. I decided almost ten years ago that he very clearly isn’t a Patriot fan at all, in the even slightest, and just makes his money in a Patriot market. He could care less about the well-being of the team and is solely out for **** to stir. I mean, with him it’s really shameless and I remain amazed he has a genuine audience.

This dude spent YEARS saying Brady was washed, trash, terrible, and that it was the magical Belichick “system.” Felger wanted Brady gone because Brady gone equals cold hard cash for Felger. Drama, drama, drama.
Now he wants Belichick gone for the same reason. In two years he’ll be shamelessly saying how dumb it was to move on from the proven Belichick for whatever ****-show we might exchange him for, and he’ll just pretend like he wasn’t fighting to get rid of Belichick the whole time. Callers and audience participants will comment on the ‘Current Thing’ and give him a pass on formerly wanting want he’s ‘*****ing’ about that afternoon in regards to Patriots-suckage.

Occasionally, if someone brings up his previous stances, he’ll pass over it with a quick concession about being wrong and then return to his money-*****ing about the situation he wanted.

I’d mostly be down for a regime change just to turn the page on the Brady era and let a completely revised team-identity come about, but the more I hear media-people call for Belichick’s head in New England, the more I think he should stay just for spite.

Sports journalists can be among the worst variety of journalists because they thrive from chaos, and so love creating it.

For the media, moving Belichick to another team takes one NFL character and turns him into two, because whoever replaces him will also immediately be a huge ‘character’ in the league for them to discuss.

It’s all so tiresome.
Aside from the unintended side conversation regarding BB…

The League hates the Pats, I’m convinced. The horridly one-sided officiating in LV was just part of a pattern (posted on it the post-game thread).

As for the MEDIA…I work in a media adjacent field, and sometimes for media giants. I studied media and gave a degree reflecting that. Two, actually.

The formula for talk radio is simple: agitate. People like to argue. Say something stupid and the phones light up with people wanting to correct you. Start fights because anger lights up the brain like porn.

It’s anger-porn media, and you’re 100% correct in that they really don’t believe what they’re professing, particularly in sports media and politics.
 
People are forgetting about mobile scramblers like Staubach, Steve Young and Tarkenton just to name a few. They played during BB's career.
 
Yep....yep....the OP gets it.

The Media has been waiting for 24 seasons to rip BB a new a-hole......

**** the media...LFG!!!! Pats to win 10 in a row...starting right ****ing now mother****ers!!! And BB can mumble all he wants!!! LFG!!!
 
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