The Media still HATES us even though we suck. Want Belichick gone bad.

[sb1]

Not even a big Star Wars fan, but I’m still triggered by that ****.

I wish the bloopers had Daisy Ridley say "I am...Iron Man. I mean all the Jedi"

 

[PATS16N0]

If Brady came into the league today as a sixth round pocket passer, he probably would never had a chance to become the greatest of all time.

You’re off your rocker. Brady literally dominated this generations best as recently as two and a half years ago, and not for the first time. Same game. There just isn’t a Brady in it right now.

 

[Rob0729]

You’re off your rocker. Brady literally dominated this generations best as recently as two and a half years ago, and not for the first time. Same game. There just isn’t a Brady in it right now.

Brady only got a chance to be the greatest of all time because the Pats decided to keep four QBs his rookie season. If they cut him, there was no guarantee anyone else would have even picked him up. He could have disappeared before he had a shot. And that was in the age of pure pocket passing QBs.

As a pure pocket passer coming into the league today as a prospect that no one is high on, he probably doesn't get drafted and may not even get signed as an undrafted free agent. He most likely would have been out of the league before he got a chance to prove himself in today's day and age.

I am not talking about what Brady turned into. I am saying he probably wouldn't have the opportunity to turn into the GOAT in today's NFL if he was a draft prospect today.

 

[PATS16N0]

Brady only got a chance to be the greatest of all time because the Pats decided to keep four QBs his rookie season. If they cut him, there was no guarantee anyone else would have even picked him up. He could have disappeared before he had a shot. And that was in the age of pure pocket passing QBs.

As a pure pocket passer coming into the league today as a prospect that no one is high on, he probably doesn't get drafted and may not even get signed as an undrafted free agent. He most likely would have been out of the league before he got a chance to prove himself in today's day and age.

I am not talking about what Brady turned into. I am saying he probably wouldn't have the opportunity to turn into the GOAT in today's NFL if he was a draft prospect today.

If he was drafted by the Patriots dead-last this last off season, season-1-Super Bowl-winning-drive-Brady would already be the starter for this team as of at least two weeks ago.

 

[PATS16N0]

Aside from the unintended side conversation regarding BB…

The League hates the Pats, I’m convinced. The horridly one-sided officiating in LV was just part of a pattern (posted on it the post-game thread).

As for the MEDIA…I work in a media adjacent field, and sometimes for media giants. I studied media and gave a degree reflecting that. Two, actually.

The formula for talk radio is simple: agitate. People like to argue. Say something stupid and the phones light up with people wanting to correct you. Start fights because anger lights up the brain like porn.

It’s anger-porn media, and you’re 100% correct in that they really don’t believe what they’re professing, particularly in sports media and politics.

That’s really it. Again, they’re more subtle, at least, in national sports media, where they go hard on real arguments to justify their drama-stirring, and I know it’s part of their day-to-day job. However, with sports shock-jocks like Felger & Mazz it’s 110% pure The Dark Knight Rises Joker: they are agents of chaos.

Belichick getting fired is a major pay day for them because people will be tuning in to hear them breakdown “how stupid the Patriots look given Belichick’s Super Bowl win in San Diego” or how “the new coach is totally in over his head” or any other of a hundred situations that one act of firing Belichick would present to them as radio loudmouths.

It’s 110% self-serving pot-stirring with them. Felger isn’t even a Patriot fan (he has zero pre-career connection to area) and Mazz is an unapologetic Red Sox guy and Red Sox firsters have always resented the Brady era of Patriot dominance because they want the area to be a ‘baseball town’

 

[Rob0729]

If he was drafted by the Patriots dead-last this last off season, season-1-Super Bowl-winning-drive-Brady would already be the starter for this team as of at least two weeks ago.

Maybe. Or he would never have been drafted and would be out of the league already. The Patriots didn‘t draft a QB this year. They didn’t sign one as an undrafted free agent to compete to be a QB.

Again, it is a different league where pocket passers aren’t valued as much. There are pocket passers who are rated higher than Brady was in 2000 who probably never make it to a preseason roster.

 

[PATS16N0]

Maybe. Or he would never have been drafted and would be out of the league already. The Patriots didn‘t draft a QB this year. They didn’t sign one as an undrafted free agent to compete to be a QB.

Again, it is a different league where pocket passers aren’t valued as much. There are pocket passers who are rated higher than Brady was in 2000 who probably never make it to a preseason roster.

I think it’s safe to assume if Mac Jones, Watson and Wilson x2 have jobs as starting quarterbacks, Brady would be fine.

 

[p8ryts]

Pats fans are feeding fuel to the fire. Well, I don't really consider them Pats fans.

 

[RodThePat]

Brady only got a chance to be the greatest of all time because the Pats decided to keep four QBs his rookie season. If they cut him, there was no guarantee anyone else would have even picked him up. He could have disappeared before he had a shot. And that was in the age of pure pocket passing QBs.

As a pure pocket passer coming into the league today as a prospect that no one is high on, he probably doesn't get drafted and may not even get signed as an undrafted free agent. He most likely would have been out of the league before he got a chance to prove himself in today's day and age.

I am not talking about what Brady turned into. I am saying he probably wouldn't have the opportunity to turn into the GOAT in today's NFL if he was a draft prospect today.

Jake Fromm was drafted in the fifth round and he is shorter than Brady with a weaker arm and ran the 40 at over 5 seconds. Brady would obviously still be drafted in today's league.

 

[Rob0729]

I think it’s safe to assume if Mac Jones, Watson and Wilson x2 have jobs as starting quarterbacks, Brady would be fine.

Brady barely made it into the league in 2000 which was probably during the worst era for QBs in the modern NFL history. The late 90s early 2000s was an awful time for QBs. There were about 3-5 good QBs and a bunch of journeymen. That is why career scrubs like Kurt Warner and Rich Gannon were able to hang around long enough to become league MVPs.

 

[203Pat]

Please don't tell me we're doing the "If Bill didn't carry 4 QBs in 2000 Brady would have never done anything" thing again?

 

[Rob0729]

Jake Fromm was drafted in the fifth round and he is shorter than Brady with a weaker arm and ran the 40 at over 5 seconds. Brady would obviously still be drafted in today's league.

Brady ran a 5.28 40. Fromm ran a 5.01. Brady had a 24 1/2 inch vertical leap while Fromm's was 30 inches. Fromm is far more athletic than Brady was coming out of college.

 

[PATS16N0]

Please don't tell me we're doing the "If Bill didn't carry 4 QBs in 2000 Brady would have never done anything" thing again?

He needs it all to track with his “Brady was a product of the Belichick system” line of reasoning he took full ownership over before.

 

[Rob0729]

Please don't tell me we're doing the "If Bill didn't carry 4 QBs in 2000 Brady would have never done anything" thing again?

I am not doing that. I am using that he was a fourth QB in 2000 to show how Brady might not have been given a shot in today's NFL where pocket passers are no longer valued by most teams.

 

[PATS16N0]

When Rob posts about Brady:

 

[Rob0729]

He needs it all to track with his “Brady was a product of the Belichick system” line of reasoning he took full ownership over before.

I never said that. Stop putting words in my mouth. And I don't believe that.

But you shouldn't cast stones when you are arguing the league is exactly the same today that it was in 2013 as an argument to defend Belichick.

 

[PATS16N0]

I never said that. Stop putting words in my mouth. And I don't believe that.

But you shouldn't cast stones when you are arguing the league is exactly the same today that it was in 2013 as an argument to defend Belichick.

It’s not so much a defense of Belichick as it is pointing out the actual reasons the media-pitchforks have come out.

 

[Rob0729]

When Rob posts about Brady:

LOL! Please tell us again how the league exactly the same as it was in 2013 and how nothing has changed. We all need a good laugh. It is the same as it was in 1930 too. They are still wearing leather helmets and everything.

 

[Rob0729]

It’s not so much a defense of Belichick as it is pointing out the actual reasons the media-pitchforks have come out.

Ok, so your stupid argument doesn't have a stupid reason to make a stupid argument.

 

[PATS16N0]

LOL! Please tell us again how the league exactly the same as it was in 2013 and how nothing has changed. We all need a good laugh. It is the same as it was in 1930 too. They are still wearing leather helmets and everything.

Special teams and kick off returns have changed but overall I don’t know of any super significant rule changes taking place since the Polian Colts. Brady still dominated the league two years ago, thus, elite pocket passers will still dominate the league.