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The Krafts are relentless in their assault on Belichick's coaching.

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If you think BB is an ******* and you are triggered by his name then stop talking about any of the winning because oh that's right without him we have zero titles.

If you still worship BB after the horrendous job he did the last three years why don't you just go ahead and motorboat his moobs.
 
If you still worship BB after the horrendous job he did the last three years why don't you just go ahead and motorboat his moobs.
It's pathetic that we have spoiled brats as fans. Spoiled by all the winning.

Teams rebuild. It's normal. You guys won't be around anyway because you want instant gratification.
 
If you still worship BB after the horrendous job he did the last three years why don't you just go ahead and motorboat his moobs.
 
And you continue trying to white knight for Belichick as if he gives AF about any of this. I get you're a cult member of Team Bill, but your saviour doesn't need you making up lies to defend him from every imagined slight.

You and your ilk need to decide if you'll remain a Patriots fan or you want to move on to another team. If you want to be a Pats fan, then support your new HC which RK picked and STFU. Nobody wants to listen to your constant whining about how ppl are being mean to Bill. Drop it and enjoy this exciting offseason like no other.
You probably post more about Belichick than any other poster on here maybe post less about him if you don't want to here opinions on the greatest head coach ever.
 
It's pathetic that we have spoiled brats as fans. Spoiled by all the winning.

Teams rebuild. It's normal. You guys won't be around anyway because you want instant gratification.

He had a reasonable amount of time. There are a few hits, but mostly the roster is mostly void of talent, and been trending down.

I was always on Team Bill, but the Patricia idea was a disaster. I don't care whose fault it was.

It's fair as fans to say it's time for Bill to hang em up. I'm about his age, and I couldn't possibly do a job as demanding as his.
 
So what?

In the end what would more of a defense by Bill would have done anything but brought a long suspension for BB?

Bill introduced the best defense Brady should have needed, scientific reasonable doubt. If Brady thought Bill could have done more, especially looking back on it, he is wrong. What happened was going to happen. Any more interference would have made it worse for the franchise.

Just because Brady was proven more right than wrong about almost everything related to the split up, doesn't mean he was right here. If this report is even true.
I don't know what you're talking about. I said Bill didn't publicly support Brady during the whole ordeal. I don't know how Bill voicing support for his quarterback would have interfered with anything.
 
I'd say the weirdos are the ones who aren't pro Brady and Pro BB. Imagine expecting to be able to be both of those things on a Patriot message board without being ridiculed for it.

This childishly moronic "team Brady" vs. "team Bill" nonsense got really, REALLY old long ago. People need to realize: in retrospect Tom Brady absolutely SHOULD have retired a Patriot. But while not fully responsible for moving on he WAS, to a degree, complicit. Bill Belichick's coaching was indispensable to the dynasty run, his personnel gaffes sped its unraveling. Bob Kraft graciously set the table and committed some head-scratching brain farts along the way.

Three gifted but imperfect role players who achieved great things TOGETHER. No one can ever say it's not a team game.

 
This childishly moronic "team Brady" vs. "team Bill" nonsense got really, REALLY old long ago. People need to realize: in retrospect Tom Brady absolutely SHOULD have retired a Patriot. But while not fully responsible for moving on he WAS, to a degree, complicit. Bill Belichick's coaching was indispensable to the dynasty run, his personnel gaffes sped its unraveling. Bob Kraft graciously set the table and committed some head-scratching brain farts along the way.

Three gifted but imperfect role players who achieved great things TOGETHER. No one can ever say it's not a team game.

Alas all good things must come to an end. BB and Brady pushed each other be better for a long time, until the ways they pushed each other became the problem. Kraft mostly helped by staying out of the way. It will be interesting to see how Dynasty treats his handling of Deflate Gate. As nice as it would have been to have Brady retire as a Patriot, it would have wasted his last years on a rebuilding team. BB's departure feels much different coming after two bad seasons. The frustration from the last few years has been fueled by some clearly bad decisions that has managed to marginalize all his accomplishments and accentuate his failures. Looking forward to the new chapter and the day when BB, Brady and RKK can come together to celebrate the amazing run.
 
Alas all good things must come to an end. BB and Brady pushed each other be better for a long time, until the ways they pushed each other became the problem. Kraft mostly helped by staying out of the way. It will be interesting to see how Dynasty treats his handling of Deflate Gate. As nice as it would have been to have Brady retire as a Patriot, it would have wasted his last years on a rebuilding team. BB's departure feels much different coming after two bad seasons. The frustration from the last few years has been fueled by some clearly bad decisions has managed to marginalize all his accomplishments and accentuate his failures. Looking forward to the new chapter and the day when BB, Brady and RKK can come together to celebrate the amazing run.
I think there's more to the story of these 3 than any of us knows. Looking forward to the rest of this Dynasty docuseries sheding some light on it.
 
I think there's more to the story of these 3 than any of us knows. Looking forward to the rest of this Dynasty docuseries sheding some light on it.
No doubt. Kraft productions would not want it any other way, LOL

Edited for perspective: Clearly the relationships evolved. Without seeing the series, my perspective is that the first half of the dynasty was about building, the third quarter maintaining and the last quarter the fracturing and ending of the trio. As you say there is more to the story. Some new information will come out in the series. It is a given that Kraft's perspective will be represented and Brady seems to have escaped the Patriots cone of silence and is being more open and honest about things so there will be definitely be some light shed on how things evolved. BB's 'reluctance' to be forthcoming will also ensure that there are still things still left to uncover. I doubt that he shared much for the docuseries so we will have to wait until BB publishes his last book, "Why Malcomb Butler Was Benched and Other Anecdotes", to have all the answers.
 
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No doubt, Kraft productions would not want it any other way, LOL
Kraft didn't produce the Dynasty. It was produced by Imagine Entertainment Brian Grazer & Ron Howard.

 
This childishly moronic "team Brady" vs. "team Bill" nonsense got really, REALLY old long ago. People need to realize: in retrospect Tom Brady absolutely SHOULD have retired a Patriot. But while not fully responsible for moving on he WAS, to a degree, complicit. Bill Belichick's coaching was indispensable to the dynasty run, his personnel gaffes sped its unraveling. Bob Kraft graciously set the table and committed some head-scratching brain farts along the way.

Three gifted but imperfect role players who achieved great things TOGETHER. No one can ever say it's not a team game.

It was actually my fault.
 
This childishly moronic "team Brady" vs. "team Bill" nonsense got really, REALLY old long ago. People need to realize: in retrospect Tom Brady absolutely SHOULD have retired a Patriot. But while not fully responsible for moving on he WAS, to a degree, complicit. Bill Belichick's coaching was indispensable to the dynasty run, his personnel gaffes sped its unraveling. Bob Kraft graciously set the table and committed some head-scratching brain farts along the way.

Three gifted but imperfect role players who achieved great things TOGETHER. No one can ever say it's not a team game.


There's a point in the 2009 Patriots doc where you see Brady, BoB and Bill talking to one another towards the end of the game. Bill walks up to Brady and BoB and says "we need a play that gets the tight ends involved."

BoB starts thinking, and before he can even come up with an idea, Brady is like "Oh I know the exact play we can do."

Next shot is of Brady throwing the a TE for what I believe is the game winning touchdown.

I'm missing details, but that one shot showed it all for me. That's what those two could do together. Bill could see it all, Brady could execute it all.
 
Kraft didn't produce the Dynasty. It was produced by Imagine Entertainment Brian Grazer & Ron Howard.

OKed by Kraft and his team of Lawyers.

Kraft is controlling the new narrative.

Everything that has gone wrong with Kraft's team is the fault of BB - the bad man.
 
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