The Evil Patriots Empire is back!

[upstater1]

The pats were called patsies in the late eighties and early nineties, the teams was made to sound like they were inept for their entire history. But they had won a lot of games in the sixties, seventies,, and the first half of the eighties. Every team has these multie year letdowns and rebuilds.

Stanley Morgan had a long career (14 seasons) and in his first 12 years with the Patriots, he only played on one team with a losing record.

 

[reflexblue]

Stanley Morgan had a long career (14 seasons) and in his first 12 years with the Patriots, he only played on one team with a losing record.

Wow, i didn't remember that. And the patriots have been to the super bowl 11 times, far more than any other team.
At this point they haven't regained evil empire status though.

 

[maust]

The pats were called patsies in the late eighties and early nineties, the team was made to sound like they were inept for their entire history. But they had won a lot of games in the sixties, seventies,, and the first half of the eighties. Every team has these multie year letdowns and rebuilds.

Being a 'man of a certain age' I was always inclined to believe the Patsies moniker stuck more because of incompetent ownership and the knowledge that ownership's ineptitude would always find a way to undo whatever success the team achieved than because of the record.

 

[The Trickster]

Checked out the Bills' message boards. There's a certain amount of whining and excuse-making and sour grapes and so on about the Pats, but it's nowhere like the rage-filled psychosis to be found the Gang Green or other Jets forums for years now.

I have a friend who is a huge Bills fan. His thing though is to wear NFL gear. He has tarps and caps for every NFL team .... more than one or two for some. There is one exception. He has no Pats merch. And claims he never will.

 

[Thelonious]

I have a friend who is a huge Bills fan. His thing though is to wear NFL gear. He has tarps and caps for every NFL team .... more than one or two for some. There is one exception. He has no Pats merch. And claims he never will.

LOL. I have a soft spot for the Bills. All those trips to the big game only to be disappointed. I liked Marv Levy, and the arc of Jim Kelly's life has been heartbreaking. I lived in upstate New York for a few years. they are wonderful people, though I have to say I tended to steer clear of Buffalo, which has a few rough patches, and I hear even Syracuse is somewhat in decline.

 

[reflexblue]

Being a 'man of a certain age' I was always inclined to believe the Patsies moniker stuck more because of incompetent ownership and the knowledge that ownership's ineptitude would always find a way to undo whatever success the team achieved than because of the record.

Good point, didnt occur to me that the outside view of the ownership reflected on the team itself

 

[maust]

Good point, didnt occur to me that the outside view of the ownership reflected on the team itself

The Sullivans were a local tragedy but nationally they were a runaway comedy sensation

 

[upstater1]

LOL. I have a soft spot for the Bills. All those trips to the big game only to be disappointed. I liked Marv Levy, and the arc of Jim Kelly's life has been heartbreaking. I lived in upstate New York for a few years. they are wonderful people, though I have to say I tended to steer clear of Buffalo, which has a few rough patches, and I hear even Syracuse is somewhat in decline.

I've lived in many corners of so-called upstate. Upper Westchester, Capital region both Albany and Troy, Rochester. Been up here since 1995. When I landed a job in Rochester, I decided to move to Buffalo and commute an hour instead of living in Rochester (Rochester is nice, but I found a lot more to do and in general, a much prettier city in Buffalo). Of all the places upstate, central and west, I'd say Buffalo is the nicest, and I've seen every nook and cranny outside of the Adirondack Park.

I have begrudgingly allowed Bills gear into the house because they are religious about it in town and you don't want to be the only kid who can't dress down on Bills Friday. My oldest learned a lesson at JCC camp when she said she was a Patriots fan. She was treated horribly at summer camp after that (I can tell you chapter and verse what happened). It can even impact grades to display any other allegiance -- people can be that petty. We were almost disinvited from Thanksgiving once! We're the only ones that don't partake in Bills squares from any fundraising campaign.

My oldest now lives in New England.

Since I don't have a hockey team anymore (Whalers fan growing up) and since I still have hate for the Bruins because of that (even though I know members of the Jacobs family from living around here), I display my Buffalo pride by firmly adopting and rooting for the Sabres (who are even more inept historically than the Bills, if you can believe that).

 

[Thelonious]

I've lived in many corners of so-called upstate. Upper Westchester, Capital region both Albany and Troy, Rochester. Been up here since 1995. When I landed a job in Rochester, I decided to move to Buffalo and commute an hour instead of living in Rochester (Rochester is nice, but I found a lot more to do and in general, a much prettier city in Buffalo). Of all the places upstate, central and west, I'd say Buffalo is the nicest, and I've seen every nook and cranny outside of the Adirondack Park.

I have begrudgingly allowed Bills gear into the house because they are religious about it in town and you don't want to be the only kid who can't dress down on Bills Friday. My oldest learned a lesson at JCC camp when she said she was a Patriots fan. She was treated horribly at summer camp after that (I can tell you chapter and verse what happened). It can even impact grades to display any other allegiance -- people can be that petty. We were almost disinvited from Thanksgiving once! We're the only ones that don't partake in Bills squares from any fundraising campaign.

My oldest now lives in New England.

Since I don't have a hockey team anymore (Whalers fan growing up) and since I still have hate for the Bruins because of that (even though I know members of the Jacobs family from living around here), I display my Buffalo pride by firmly adopting and rooting for the Sabres (who are even more inept historically than the Bills, if you can believe that).

I lived in the Finger Lakes region. It was like stepping back into 1950's America back when I taught there. A wonderful place to raise children. If you wanted something more hip, you just drove to Ithaca. When I was a kid, we did our summer vacations in the Adirondacks, Saranac Lake.

 

[TommyD4207]

Since I don't have a hockey team anymore (Whalers fan growing up) and since I still have hate for the Bruins because of that (even though I know members of the Jacobs family from living around here), I display my Buffalo pride by firmly adopting and rooting for the Sabres (who are even more inept historically than the Bills, if you can believe that).

Shoulda become a Hurricanes fan like me.

 

[VrabelJr]

I've lived in many corners of so-called upstate. Upper Westchester, Capital region both Albany and Troy, Rochester. Been up here since 1995. When I landed a job in Rochester, I decided to move to Buffalo and commute an hour instead of living in Rochester (Rochester is nice, but I found a lot more to do and in general, a much prettier city in Buffalo). Of all the places upstate, central and west, I'd say Buffalo is the nicest, and I've seen every nook and cranny outside of the Adirondack Park.

I have begrudgingly allowed Bills gear into the house because they are religious about it in town and you don't want to be the only kid who can't dress down on Bills Friday. My oldest learned a lesson at JCC camp when she said she was a Patriots fan. She was treated horribly at summer camp after that (I can tell you chapter and verse what happened). It can even impact grades to display any other allegiance -- people can be that petty. We were almost disinvited from Thanksgiving once! We're the only ones that don't partake in Bills squares from any fundraising campaign.

My oldest now lives in New England.

Since I don't have a hockey team anymore (Whalers fan growing up) and since I still have hate for the Bruins because of that (even though I know members of the Jacobs family from living around here), I display my Buffalo pride by firmly adopting and rooting for the Sabres (who are even more inept historically than the Bills, if you can believe that).

I’m sorry you live there (I grew up in the South towns).

 

[upstater1]

I lived in the Finger Lakes region. It was like stepping back into 1950's America back when I taught there. A wonderful place to raise children. If you wanted something more hip, you just drove to Ithaca. When I was a kid, we did our summer vacations in the Adirondacks, Saranac Lake.

One of my best friends is Mohawk and knows every small hill of the Adirondacks. He frequently takes off to some little lodge in the most breathtaking scenery in a place no one has ever heard of. I went once with him and it was hard to believe the place even existed, old resort lodge at Bear Lake. How do you find these places? I asked him. He knew that park inside and out.

 

[maust]

I’m sorry you live there (I grew up in the South towns).

I'm sorry you grew up. (Growing older is mandatory, growing up is optional. Thanks to my long suffering and extremely patient spouse I've successfully avoided it so far)

 

[upstater1]

I’m sorry you live there (I grew up in the South towns).

I don't live in the southtowns.

I love the city though.

If I lived in the southtowns, I would have a different opinion.

 

[Vindicate]

I don't want more excuses and depleted teams that prop us up to the division.
There were all kinds of excuses with the Tampa game - because of their missing pieces.
I'd love to see us play this top WR unit and see what we can do. Although, either way, we're getting a Dr. Flacco & Mr. Burrow that people will excuse away if we win.

F*** them, I wanna get to the post-season, they can go bite a wall. We shut the Bills down in their own house. We could have definitely stopped the Bengals offense, Burrow and Chase included.

Even if every team was healthy, we'd still just get something tossed at us like "oh it was a down year for the NFL"

Nobody is going to celebrate this for you or us. Enjoy the ride, **** the Bengals, we can't control their WR1 doing the dumbest **** I've ever seen from a guy who was openly complaining about the defense a week before, only to get shut TF out the next week.

If we didn't have Maye for a game and lost, they'd say "see they're a fraud of a team" regardless of us missing our QB. They won't mention us missing our top defensive player. They won't mention us missing Boutte, a big part of our offense.

Sorry, I just get tired of this "but WAIT akshully, they didn't face their best weapons! Doesn't count!" ****, because it was similar to the Celtics run recently. And the first time the Warriors won th finals, it was the same.

Not yelling at you, but those who start those narratives.

 

[upstater1]

Shoulda become a Hurricanes fan like me.

!!! I root against them more than against the Bruins. I am sick whenever they wear those Whaler jerseys. A slap in the face.

 

[signbabybrady]

Hi Upstater, not sure why Ian still won't let me see your posts but just figured I'd say hi.

 

[upstater1]

Hi Upstater, not sure why Ian still won't let me see your posts but just figured I'd say hi.

Something is strange. Did you accidentally mute me?

 

[TommyD4207]

!!! I root against them more than against the Bruins. I am sick whenever they wear those Whaler jerseys. A slap in the face.

I mean, let's be honest, they played in the Mall as long as they could. I count those cups (that's one more than the Bruins since they moved, for those keeping score).

 

[reflexblue]

The Sullivans were a local tragedy but nationally they were a runaway comedy sensation

Can't forget what the razor dude brought. That was a whole nother comedy routine