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  1. Patstastic

    Patstastic On the Game Day Roster

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    Just as the title poses. What teams are due for a "Step back" this season?

    1. Saints. From Thanksgiving on, Brees was not a good QB whatsoever. His arm strength looks to be gone. I also think they will miss Ingram. Their schedule is brutal again too. I think the end is near for this group.

    2. Bears. They had crazy good health last year. And their defense is a beast. But they face a first place schedule now. Their QB isn't "Elite" to say the least.

    3. Ravens. Jackson has to develop into a pocket passer. His style won't last. I also think they've downgraded defensively. They seem like a team that's headed for the gutter.

    It's possible the Patriots suffer more injuries this season. But they had an unusual amount of blowout losses on the road last season. They were without Edelman for the first four weeks. Gordon went into rehab. Also, the chances of the Patriots being 11-5 or worse again is very slim. This is why I didn't put them in the "Decline" group.

    Who are your top three?
     
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    Regress:

    Rams
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    Sleeper: Chargers

    Progress:

    Panthers
    Seahawks
    Browns
    Packers
    Sleeper: Jaguars
     
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    The Jete if it's possible.

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    Just a reminder, first place schedules only account for two games.
     
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    I can't wait for him to announce a team-building skiing trip and the green gang all show up in their ski gear and he's in the locker room readying fat rails for everyone.
     
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    Rams, Chiefs and Saints will all regress.

    Falcons, 49ers and Bills will all win more games.
     
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    I'd add Steelers to the regression list.
     
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    Curious why some are choosing KC. Schedule? Injuries? Coaching?
     
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    I'd say the loss of Hunt and SOS would be part of it but imo they still win the division. So maybe a step back in playoff seeding.
     
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    I'd add them because Mahomes had statistically improbable good fortune in terms of turnovers if you tend to believe the methodology that FO is using to evaluate QBs:

    Adjusted Interceptions 2018 | Football Outsiders

    Add in whatever will happen to Tyreek (4-8 games suspension I would assume) and they will find themselves with a smaller margin for error than last year.


    As many know I am not the biggest fan of football stats services mostly because for a vast majority of positions a lot of the context gets lost when trying to model with numbers.

    QB play and INTs are a different animal though. Yes there might still be some context missing in terms of pressures, wrong routes and what not.. but overall I feel they give you a good idea about how lucky/unlucky some QBs got over the course of the season.
     
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    Andy Reid. Mahomes regression. Tape on their offense.
     
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    Yep ... Reid tends to blow his wad everywhere he goes then can't get it back up.
     
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    I have one in particular that I feel very strongly about:

    The Texans.
     
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    Yep
     
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    Rams: Mere moral teams don't handle the super bowl hangover well...
     
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    I noticed he was particularly bad down the stretch of the NFCC. They scored on early in the 3rd quarter, I believe mostly throwing to Kamara... and then he barely hit anything downfield other than a jump ball towards the end that should have been picked but luckily his WR came up with it. It was like a mini Manning vs. Colts in 2014 AFCDG. Of course, Manning's defense carried him to a title the next year but I don't see the Saints defense doing that.
     
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    Would please more than a few here.
     
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    Yep.

    Their O-line was not fixed whatsoever. The linemen they drafted were reaches and likely won’t contribute immediately.

    They are far too one dimensional relying on Hopkins offensively. Fuller’s nice, but can’t stay healthy. Miller is a very “meh” option at RB, and they lack good options behind him.

    Defensively they will still remain very solid but will take a step back after losing Jackson and Mathieu in their secondary.

    Lastly, they managed to win a lot of close games last year. They were really exposed for their flaws in the wild card game vs. Indy. I think that negative momentum will carry into this next season.
     
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