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I like Sam Bradford and honestly think he's a good guy with potential as a football player. I also feel like I lost some respect for him because of this contract... No way this guy should get that much cash.
I don't blame Bradford at all. I blame the system that has put him in the position to make veteran performance money without throwing a ball. Just like it's ridiculous that Berry is making elite Safety money.
 
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I don't blame Bradford either. Anyone in his position would accept whatever sum their team is willing to play. There's no need for him to appologize. I blame the league, and the players union. If Bradford gets $50 million (I know, we need the details first), what do Brady and Manning get? $70-80 million guaranteed? Their deals will be very, very tricky now, if they already weren't.
 
they need to have a rookie CAP soon the 5 top picks are there to help the worst teams get better fast not put them in CAP hell for unproven players.
 
I don't blame Bradford either. Anyone in his position would accept whatever sum their team is willing to play. There's no need for him to appologize. I blame the league, and the players union. If Bradford gets $50 million (I know, we need the details first), what do Brady and Manning get? $70-80 million guaranteed? Their deals will be very, very tricky now, if they already weren't.

I don't blame him either. but I can't help but feel that way towards a player making money like Peyton Manning. There's a big difference between Peyton Manning and Sam Bradford.
 
I don't blame him either. but I can't help but feel that way towards a player making money like Peyton Manning. There's a big difference between Peyton Manning and Sam Bradford.

Ya Peyton is better "friends" with Kenny Chesney.
 
That's one big contract! I bet the Rams are hoping he doesn't turn out to be another Jamarcus!
 
I don't blame him either. but I can't help but feel that way towards a player making money like Peyton Manning. There's a big difference between Peyton Manning and Sam Bradford.

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I don't blame Bradford either. Anyone in his position would accept whatever sum their team is willing to play. There's no need for him to appologize. I blame the league, and the players union. If Bradford gets $50 million (I know, we need the details first), what do Brady and Manning get? $70-80 million guaranteed? Their deals will be very, very tricky now, if they already weren't.


Tell that to THEIR agent, super agent Tom Condon, the little engine behind the need for a rookie contract cap. He and his agency have been instrumental in pushing contracts to outpace net revenue for a long time now.

He negotiated Manning's record shattering deal in 2004 that almost doubled the amount of signing bonus previously paid to any player. He got Eli Brady money in his rookie deal. At the time Eli was guaranteed $20M of a $60M deal. Since then he has repped every top QB in the draft and their contracts have risen exponentially whether funny money was largely employed or not.

Ultimately if there is a lockout or the golden goose is killed, players need look no farther than Tom Condon for someone to blame. Sure owners are their own worst enemy when it comes to wanting rookies or FA signed and on the field. But they were often left little alternative but to cave due to this agent and his clients. Watson had to fire him his rookie season just to get a deal done here and get into camp. He engineered Brady Quinn's costly holdout for an incentive laden contract with escalators he never saw because the holdout so poisoned the atmosphere in his own hometown RAC soured on him almost immediately and never gave him a shot at making it as a starter thereafter. Condon could care less. He's less concerned with his clients best interest or even their particular 3% than he is with landing the next class of top tier rookie and FA clients based on the reported max value of deals he's negotiated. Other agents are only too willing to stand back and ride the master's coat tails because he handles all the heavy lifting of raising the bar on perceived averages and total values annually.

One reason no one has much to say about Manning's deal is that Polian pretty much summed Indy's situation up in March when he corrected Irsay by stating the contract was between himself and Condon... Condon was the president of the NFLPA before Gene Upshaw began his reign with his own agent...you guessed it, Tom Condon, at his side. They are the ones who sold a generation of players on the trickle down theory and convinced them that % of the total pie and personal bonus or guaranteed money and even increasing the perception of value from the top down in part driven by each rookie class was the ultimate blueprint to their overall long term well being, as opposed to securing less flashy farther reaching benefits like improved disability and retirement and insurance coverage for the entire membership past, present or future. Agents don't get a piece of your benefits...and if top tier players weren't increasingly morons, they would need no damn benefits...because Condon has seen to it they are paid well enough to self insure their post career futures.

When they do cap these rookie contracts as they will, they should call it the Tom Condon rule.

The only impact this has on the Brady and Manning and Brees deals going forward is exceeding perception in the form of genuine guaranteed money and take home over the first three not tied to earning escalators and incentives. But their agents will now feel it's incumbant to top $50M in fact or in spin lest they be painted by their peers as having dropped the ball. Of course in Manning's case raising the bar yet again will remain at the forefront of his negotiations because Tom Condon will be orchestrating that deal. So in fact that will ramp up the pressure on guys like Yee and whomever reps Brees (Edit...Condon again) to deliver deals that at least appear superior to the flavor of the moment rookie QB. All three deals will therefore have to average substantially in excess of $14M and fully guarantee in excess of $50M or functionally guarantee millions more than that.

The good news should be that thereafter all extensions should reflect value in comparison to actual elite players at the position as opposed to comparison to kids with overhyped potential who have yet to accomplish a damn thing at the next level. Except of course that there will always be a Dan Snyder in the mix, an owner with more money than brains, who lives in the moment and is tired of waiting for his team to be built because he wants or needs to win now and he irrationally perceives a splashy, overpriced signing as a means to that end.
 
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I hope that this prediction does not come true

I will not be surprised if a Boston media member opines that Bradford's deal may affect the possible 2011 franchise tag number for Brady/Manning. That can not possibly be true since his 2010 cap number will be around the 3 to 4 million range. The Rams rookie pool number is 7.596 million. They have already used $3.45 million of it to sign all but their top 2 draft picks.

Breer seems to be buying in to Brandt's early spin on the 20% guaranteed increase from Stafford's deal setting the bar for Manning and Brady...neither of whom in the opinion of several of the more seasoned mediots would be interested in this deal.

I was perusing some of the late night intermediot tweeting. Seems the deal has the fairly standard playing time caveats attached to the rookie guarantee...35% of snaps in year one or 45% thereafter per Schefter. Mort noted that Manning, Eli, Rivers, and Ben just off the top of his head still average more. Palmer does as well. If I recall, Manning saw $57M in the first four years of his 2004 deal. Brady saw $46M in the first four years of his 2005 deal. And in both cases seeing it was implicitly if not fully guaranteed because of the level of bonus/guaranteed option money each pocketed off the top.

It will be interesting to see the actual details in this deal.

Peter King who can't always be trusted to have read it right had this early observation:

Not to defend idiocy, because rookie contracts are absurd, but the 4-year total for Bradford ($50.5m) is $1m more than Matthew Stafford.

If he's right then the deal is heavily backloaded with $38M in salary he will likely never see either because he's so bad he's no longer starting or he's so good they redo his deal after 4 years.

JaBustus was at first blush reportedly guaranteed $40M and we now know by virtue of his being cut that $32M was his actual guaranteed money and at that due to the nature of his issues potentially being tied to illegal behavior the Raiders believe they can yet make a case for getting some of that refunded...
 
I can respect someone for striking it rich fair and square.
I like Sam Bradford and honestly think he's a good guy with potential as a football player. I also feel like I lost some respect for him because of this contract... No way this guy should get that much cash.
 
All that for a guy who hasn't played a down in the NFL.

This is why you draft your franchise QB in the 6th round
 
If this doesn't qualify as the exact reason a rookie cap needs to be part of the new CBA, nothing does. This kid hasn't played a lick of pro football and he's better compensated than Brady. What a joke.

Pretty much. But we all knew this was going to happen, with all the talk of the rookie cap/wage scale... as it gets closer, you just knew the agents were going to strike some ridiculous deal, and some desperate team would take it. Funny how at this time a decade ago the Rams were THE team to beat; now they're back to their old "Lambs" style from the '90s.

On the bright side, if the rookie cap was in any danger of not going through, you know it's going to now.
 
The thing that stands out to me is that the worst-managed teams in the league are, no surprise, repeatedly picking high in the draft. And then they sign these irresponsible contracts — the type of deals that are symptomatic of their mismanagement — and the better-run teams are supposed to follow.

Breer's column today says how the Rams have no owners and "Yet they got a deal done" with Bradford. I view it as they have no long-term business plan so they took the easy path and signed a shiny but irresponsible contract with a rookie.
 
The thing that stands out to me is that the worst-managed teams in the league are, no surprise, repeatedly picking high in the draft. And then they sign these irresponsible contracts — the type of deals that are symptomatic of their mismanagement — and the better-run teams are supposed to follow.

Breer's column today says how the Rams have no owners and "Yet they got a deal done" with Bradford. I view it as they have no long-term business plan so they took the easy path and signed a shiny but irresponsible contract with a rookie.

Yup. Spags and Co. had little choice because within the year there will be new ownership that has no vested interest in retaining them evaluating the organization top to bottom and making wholesale changes unless they appear to have turned the corner on losing seasons. They have to show at minimum promise, and absent a franchise QB no matter whom you draft in that spot that ain't happening. May not happen with a rookie one, either, but survival instinct being as strong a motivator as exists, they had to roll the dice.

That said, when the dust settles (no mediot has seen/parsed the contract yet, just taking sources words for the level to which it is "guaranteed") I don't think this deal will be any different than most of them in the recent past where guaranteed money has replaced signing bonus but it's tied to meeting performance and other playing time requirements. I want to know what Bradford gets if he is knocked out in week 5 and can't get back on the field until midway through the following season. That's what he's truly guaranteed in relation to what Manning and Brady and Brees will be guaranteed. Peter King claimed he will see $50M in the first 4 years (a $12.5M per average which will be $5M or so less than those deals come in at. Manning and Brady saw $57M and $46M respectively in the first 4 years of their now expiring deals. And if he doesn't play 4 years, which Jamarcus didn't or start consistently as Quinn didn't, his deal could prove to be for a lot less than advertised.
 
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