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  1. chris_in_sunnyvale

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    Playoff HFA based on record. A 9-7 division winner already benefitted from playing in a ****ty division. Now they get to host an 11-5 wild card from a tougher division? Bleh.

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    Sure, but gaffing at the 1 yard line = fine, get the ball right back. Gaffing out the endzone = the other team gets the ball and your chance of winning just went way down.

    Why not compromise and give them a 10 yard penalty, but they keep the ball?
     
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    Yikes. I don't like most of these at all.

    - two minute warning has been a part of the game forever. It's grab a beer time or take a leak time. You'll appreciate it more when you're older.

    - agree with turnovers.

    - the punt delay of game is to burn the clock. That'll change during the off-season.

    - requiring to declare as an eligible receiver is because there are only six players who can touch the ball including the QB. Your suggestion has huge consequences on the game. So no I prefer it remained a logical chess match.

    - waiting for the defense to get set is only if the offense changes players. It's a part of the chess match. But waiting for the defense to adjust after the offense has is best for the game. Otherwise you'll have teams scoring or winning for other reasons than being the better team.

    - progress is stopped when forward progression is stopped. Holding a player up while others attempt to strip the ball for ten or twenty seconds sounds lame.

    - All game balls provided by the league? Nope. How about underwear or gloves or shoulder pads or jock straps ??? I want to see the players play with the equipment they can be their best in or with. Including over or under inflated footballs.

    - OT rules?? Beat the team during the game. If it goes to OT and the other team scores then you weren't good enough. I like it.

    - the current playoff format works for me. I enjoy the two bye weeks for the two top teams.
     
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    Because it's a matter of being disciplined. You'll rarely see a Patriot's player reach out over the goal line to score a TD. They get their TDs by being better and not because they got a second chance for being careless. The risk of reaching out to the goal line should be a great. TDs should be that valuable.
     
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    I don't like most of what you listed although this is something I've considered.

    The thing is, a "TD on the 1st possession wins the game" makes sense. For example, if the Falcons or Chiefs got the ball back in OT against the Pats in the SB and AFCCG, it would be pretty unfair since they'd be getting all 4 downs to run/pass down field -- as opposed to 3 downs by the Patriots. Perhaps the rule could involve limiting the responding team to 3 downs only, and only as many 4th downs used by the first team -- although that's a bit too much meddling in the game and its rules.
     
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    Nothing affecting the outcome of any game should be allowed to be decided by the 345 Park Avenue Clown Car Gang. Their role should be restricted to league administration. Get Dummy and the evidently corrupt crapweasels in Manhattan out of the way of people who have dedicated their lives to the sport.

    Second, all disputes between club personnel, including players, and league officials should be adjudicated by a truly independent arbitrator who has no financial interest of any kind related to any club or league official, and whose decisions are agreed to in advance by all parties to be final.
     
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    Not as easy as you think. The 46 player gameday rule is there to mitigate the disadvantage caused by minor injuries. If one team had 4 players who were too hurt to play (but not hurt enough to go on IR), and the other team had 0, one team would be playing with 4 additional players on their roster. By having 7 gameday inactives, it gives teams some buffer so there's less of the playing field decided by luck.
     
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    Make helmets optional again, encourage unnecessary roughness penalties well after play is over (NFL Blitz), eliminate the use of referees, use a gong to signal the end of every quarter, allow the use of swords on the field, just to name a few.
     
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    These remind me of what my dad always used to say: "I like hockey, but it would be more entertaining if holes opened up in the ice at random and swallowed players."
     
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    Add it to the list.
     
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    They should also add a special review rule for determining whether the PI was "extremely obvious" or more incidental :D
     
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    Honestly I am satisfied with the current OT rules.

    Given that apparently the NFL's OT rules have all sucked maybe we should just eliminate OT? If the game is tied at the end of regulation it ends as a tie. Want the win then win in regulation.

    Given that apparently the most OT games in a season is 25, that seems acceptable. And the number of ties would probably be less than that as teams would play more aggressively at the end end of the game to win in regulation knowing there is no OT.
     
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    Undecided on expanding the roster, how much, how would they be used. Didn't seem like we had too many players inactive that would have contributed on game day. Some talk about expanding the overall roster. Undecided about that also. Would additional players get meaningful reps in practice? I think the clock inside 2 min is ok the way it is, it brings a lot of strategy into the game. Leave timeouts alone. Definitely go back to kickoff from 30 and old time onside rules. Reviews need to be modified. First any play should be challenged, its up to the coach to manage them, stick with the 2/3 rule. There should be an official monitored the telecast of each game. If he or she observes an obvious miss, then they should contact the field and enforce. That doesn't mean I want them reviewing or bisecting every play but we all see an obvious replay that shows a missed call or wrong call that could be corrected immediately. As to reviews by officials and challenges, don't agonize over them. Look at it, if its obvious make a ruling. If you have to get into repeated slow motion let the call stand. There should be a time limit 1 or 2 minutes and if no ruling has been made at the end of time, the play should stand as called. I would like to get away from coordinated celebrations. I know a lot of you like them and the media like highlight them, but I really cringe when I see these childish displays. Its one thing to pump your fist or spike the ball to register excitement but rehearsed displays, no. I would like to see them stop defensive players that make a play and think they have to run down 20 yards into the offensive area and make sure everyone knows they made a play. I don't like to see the smashmouth removed from football but there are a lot of plays that are made that are totally unnecessary, that are either not called or a personal foul is called. More ejections need to be called on some of these more egregious penalties. On the other side of this I think the NFL looking at film and assessing significant penalties for game actions is just not right. If someone is ejected as suggested above then that would warrant a fine but let's stop this combing the film to find a gotcha. A recent example is the Cody Ford blindside. It seemed marginal to me but supported by the refs, so okay, but it didn't warrant 28K plus a couple days later.

    I forgot pass interference. Undecided here also, but think I would go with the 15 yards. I realize DBs would be more likely to foul to prevent a long play but I know offenses now just throw the ball up hoping for a penalty, so I will go with the 15 yards.

    Just remembered OT changes. This is stupid. Every one complains that Mahomes didn't get to touch the ball. Well what if he did and scored. Brady scores again, do we let Mahomes have the ball again. I just don't like the college rule, it seems rinky dink to me. Leave the OT rules alone.
     
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    The playoff rules are fine. The NFL would never decrease playoff teams to 4 as they would lose an entire weekend, and 4 games, of playoff revenue.

    And even giving the division winner an auto playoff bid is not a big deal. Looking at this year the Eagles were the 9-7 division winner. And if instead you simply seeded the teams based on record you would have a tie between the Eagles and Rams for the 6th spot. And it would depend on the NFL's arcane tie-breaker rules as to who would get the spot. Don't think that is an improvement.

    The cases where you get say a 7-9 division winner are so rare, that its actually funny and entertaining. Especially when the 7-9 division winner wins their playoff game. Why would we want to get rid of that?
     
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    Yes, spare us from any more drama.
     
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    Don't give coaches unlimited reviews, keep it at 2/3
     
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    My OT change would be simple:
    1) When the coach sends the captains out at the start of OT, each coach gives his captain an index card on which the coach has written on what yardline he's willing to take possession.
    2) On the field the ref collects the cards and announces the numbers.
    3) Whichever team was willing to start closest to its own goalline gets the ball at that yardline; the other one picks which goal to defend.
    4) If both team pick the same spot, a coin is tossed (away team calls) and the winner gets the ball at that yardline; the other one picks the goal to defend.
    5) It is true sudden death - first score of any kind wins.
     
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    ...or no
     
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    I agree this needs to change some way, allow more players to return if healthy. However, it results from Redskin owner Jack Kent Cooke stashing several players on IR just to keep them from other teams. It's not fair to the players in some respect. maybe increase the number that can return to 6.
     
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    No changes to this. No seeding/
     

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