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Report: Brady tried to push Belichick out for Bill O'Brien

I like this one too (the gif doesn't show it, but that was an LT pick-6):


Gotta love Bill's defenses. And hey, at least Montana didn't throw that pick in the super bowl...Brady threw 6 of those.
 
I mean this thread was made by a person who is team Bill and who doesn't go to the Brady forum anymore since he won the Superbowl. Everyone whose active in the Brady forum has mainly avoided the Tom topic here unless somebody posts a thread about him in the main forum or in the Brady forum itself.
The issue is point blank laid out in your first sentence. "Team Bill". People loyal to Brady took Mazzarotis team Bill / team Brady bs and ran with it. It never should have happened. The division has become so acrimonious that it's wearisome to read anything because a select group always dogs Belichick no matter what topic. It's been an endless cycle of bashing.
 
Gotta love Bill's defenses. And hey, at least Montana didn't throw that pick in the super bowl...Brady threw 6 of those.
Yeah, he got lucky he played in a day and age where the NFC dominated and the AFC was atrocious. He sure got his butt whupped a lot in the true Super Bowl though, which was the NFC playoffs.
 
Yeah, he got lucky he played in a day and age where the NFC dominated and the AFC was atrocious. He sure got his butt whupped a lot in the true Super Bowl though, which was the NFC playoffs.
Also in a day and age where stacked teams can all stay together before the cap. That is huge for a QB. Would have been nice if Brady had the same luxury.

Realistically Brady has won championships on more than just 2 teams.
 
And PS this report about Brady wanting BB gone is about as realistic as Seth Wicker-sham's assertion that Tom wanted all of his teammates to call him "sir" and that he locked JimmyG out of the TB12 Center at Gillette.... it's soap opera garbage fiction.
Yeah, that story was debunked years ago by Jimmy G in a radio interview
 
Also in a day and age where stacked teams can all stay together before the cap. That is huge for a QB. Would have been nice if Brady had the same luxury.

Realistically Brady has won championships on more than just 2 teams.
Montana said that years ago that Brady's rings were on different teams because of the cap era and all the changing pieces with FA. We will never see anything close to it again.
 
The issue is point blank laid out in your first sentence. "Team Bill". People loyal to Brady took Mazzarotis team Bill / team Brady bs and ran with it. It never should have happened. The division has become so acrimonious that it's wearisome to read anything because a select group always dogs Belichick no matter what topic. It's been an endless cycle of bashing.
I didnt mean Team Bill in a derogatory way so we are clear. I do agree the division that has come from the split is annoying. I think you can criticize the moves over the past few years that Belichick has made, but I don't think the bashing is warranted either. No coach I'd rather have leading the team than him.
 
In general, @venecol and I get along just fine in real life. I ordered a Big Mac from him yesterday and he was very kind...

So you're also an elitist snob. Do you have any redeeming qualities?
 
I didnt mean Team Bill in a derogatory way so we are clear. I do agree the division that has come from the split is annoying. I think you can criticize the moves over the past few years that Belichick has made, but I don't think the bashing is warranted either. No coach I'd rather have leading the team than him.
If you don't mean to be derogatory, why use it? Team Bill, Team Brady - All it does is further the division.

And there are people here who are deliberately fostering the divide.
 
Yeah, he got lucky he played in a day and age where the NFC dominated and the AFC was atrocious. He sure got his butt whupped a lot in the true Super Bowl though, which was the NFC playoffs.

He beat the top defenses of 1984 and 1989 in the...super bowl.

Also in a day and age where stacked teams can all stay together before the cap. That is huge for a QB. Would have been nice if Brady had the same luxury.

Realistically Brady has won championships on more than just 2 teams.

And in an era before free agency. How many super bowls do you think TOmmy would have if it it weren't for all the great free agents Bill signed for NE like Rodney and Revis and the ones that Brady brought along to play with him in Tampa like Fournette and Brown?
 
Why can't we just admit the two combined are the best ever, I know these guys have egos but us as fans should look at it differently. TB has got a big head since he won with Tampa, we can admit that too, but he's the best ever.

It’s a symptom of our society as a whole. People can’t sit back and appreciate anything anymore, everything has to be turned into a competition of who is right/wrong, superior/inferior etc

As if you could prove it, and as if it even matters if you could. That and I think social media secretly makes people jealous and petty, since everyone puts the highlights of their life out all the time it seems like some people take satisfaction in others failures/misery
 
This thread was literally created by a Team Bill forum member lol All the Brady fans stick to the sub forum unless a topic is created that has to do about Tom. Blame the topic creator

I have no problem with people rooting for Brady, I still root for Brady, what I have a problem with is the supposed Patriot fans who have made it into “ Team Tom vsTeam Bill, and use every opportunity in this forum to sh.t all over Belichick and this team. And I never heard of “ Team Bill” until Brady left, before then almost everyone gave both credit for being the GOATS. So if people want to continue to support Brady there is a forum for that, and you can evenncrap all over Belichick in it because the vast majority of Patriot fans don’t go to that forum. But revisiting Brady vs Belichick in this forum every time Brady’s name is mentioned is bullish.t, and no different than the garbage a poster here couldn’t stop himself from posting about MacDaniels regardless of what the thread was about. Revisiting the exact same arguments with the exact same people over snd over snd over is garbage, so Ian gave you a place to do that, go use it. I guarantee that I won’t say a thing about it, because that’s where those debates are supposed to be.
 
If you don't mean to be derogatory, why use it? Team Bill, Team Brady - All it does is further the division.

And there are people here who are deliberately fostering the divide

Exactly. The people who hate Belichick look for every possible opportunity to go down this road and rehash the same tired old ********. Now it’s “ Team Tom can Team Bill.
 
I have no problem with people rooting for Brady, I still root for Brady, what I have a problem with is the supposed Patriot fans who have made it into “ Team Tom vsTeam Bill, and use every opportunity in this forum to sh.t all over Belichick and this team. And I never heard of “ Team Bill” until Brady left, before then almost everyone gave both credit for being the GOATS. So if people want to continue to support Brady there is a forum for that, and you can evenncrap all over Belichick in it because the vast majority of Patriot fans don’t go to that forum. But revisiting Brady vs Belichick in this forum every time Brady’s name is mentioned is bullish.t, and no different than the garbage a poster here couldn’t stop himself from posting about MacDaniels regardless of what the thread was about. Revisiting the exact same arguments with the exact same people over snd over snd over is garbage, so Ian gave you a place to do that, go use it. I guarantee that I won’t say a thing about it, because that’s where those debates are supposed to be.
Personally the only time I post about Brady in the main forum is in response to a particular troll who has made knocking him his goal. I guarantee you this crap would pretty much disappear if he'd just stop his ridiculous trolling. He cant possibly believe most the crap he spews.
 
Personally the only time I post about Brady in the main forum is in response to a particular troll who has made knocking him his goal. I guarantee you this crap would pretty much disappear if he'd just stop his ridiculous trolling. He cant possibly believe most the crap he spews.

For me it’s just a few people who went from Patriot fans posting in this forum with a variety of opinions, to a few people who are actually now just Brady fans, who use any mention of his name as an opportunity to troll this forum with their “ I hate Belichick, agenda. It’s really really old and tiresome. This is a new ear and a new team, not an extension of the old dynasty, and that’s what this forum is about, that’s why Ian created a new forum for the Brady fans only crowd.
 
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