Reiss:Similarities to 2010 a notable history lesson for team

[mosslost]

I'm not arguing that point. I'm disagreeing with you comparing Brady putting up a cheesy Facebook post about the Dolphins and Game of Thrones to a guy on a press conference saying things about an opposing coach's significant other.

it's an obvious Double Standard. If Welker had done that BB would have crucified him. BB had it out for WW, and I am just saying that he is not consistent about some of his ****. He is the GOAT coach.

 

[mosslost]

Not that I am aware of. But he surely is guilty of something quite serious.

How about this.. Would Welker had been in any kind of dog house if he started his own magazine called the "WW Times" that made fun of the teams they beat? He didn't like Welker.

it's funny that people "disagree" or "dislike" this.. lol

 

[RobertWeathers]

2010 Pats were an absurd +23 in TO ratio.

Explains how they allowed only 19ppg

 

[NG Pats Fan]

Blew out the Bears in a snow game that they had no interest in playing.

Pats with Brady have owned the steelers

You mean the same jests team that the Pats lost to by 14 points earlier in the year and lost to at home in the playoffs and were one and done?

Beat the SB champion Packers with their backup QB who probably would have won if it hadn't been for a f**cking Dan Connolly 70 yard kick-off return



The 2010 team got blown out by eric mangini and the the f**cking cleveland browns that's all you need to know about that team.


11 out of the 17 games played they allowed 20 or more points

#25 in total yards
#30 in passing yards allowed
#32 YES LAST in the NFL in 3rd down defense and last by a whopping 4%. Allowed teams to convert 47% of the time on 3rd down. 2nd worst team was the bucs at 43%.

It was a team that was carried by the QB scoring 32.4 points a game which was 5 points per game better than the #2 scoring offense

Ridiculous revisionist history

 

[patsfanincleveland]

Yeah letting the Jets score a TD from half the field in 5 plays, another in 4 plays from 40 yards away in 30 seconds during final minute of the half plus letting them drive 75 yards for a TD in 5 plays in two minutes in the 2nd half was awesome defense. Yeah that championship caliber defense really shut them down didn't they. Right.

It is indeed a fact that I saw a gawd awful defense get punched in the mouth by Sanchez and the Jets offense... it was the inevitable result when the one man show that Tom Brady was at the time didn't have the great game that he did again and again throughout the season.

If they did win that game they would have gotten absolutely clown stomped by Pitt. No question about it.

Since you are clueless to evaluate reality, what gives you the go ahead to proclaim something that never happened?

All you just did was acknowledge the Jets had short fields for their TD's. Yeah...your average numbnut can figure out 40 and 50 yards are very short fields. Did you miss their final TD was off the onside kick?

Thanks Einstein for proving my point.

Your problem is you think ( and I use that term very, very generously) something to be true so have to resort to info that actually proves what I just told you.

Had the Jets been forced to consistently sustain drives to score, they........(wait for it)............would have lost that game. Why do I know that?.........well because that's what actually happened!!!!!!! The Jets sustained exactly one drive.

Sorry but that's simply the way it is. There 's actually zero question about it.

Doubling down on stupid isn't the way to go through life.

 

[sb1]

Since you are clueless to evaluate reality, what gives you the go ahead to proclaim something that never happened?

All you just did was acknowledge the Jets had short fields for their TD's. Yeah...your average numbnut can figure out 40 and 50 yards are very short fields. Did you miss their final TD was off the onside kick?

Thanks Einstein for proving my point.

Your problem is you think ( and I use that term very, very generously) something to be true so have to resort to info that actually proves what I just told you.

Had the Jets been forced to consistently sustain drives to score, they........(wait for it)............would have lost that game. Why do I know that?.........well because that's what actually happened!!!!!!! The Jets sustained exactly one drive.

Sorry but that's simply the way it is. There 's actually zero question about it.

Doubling down on stupid isn't the way to go through life.

The defense was trash dude and they played like it. I already proved it. Spin it, slice it, dice it, get angry and deny it as much as you want to...it doesn't change the facts.

They were flat out punked in that game and if they won...the same thing would have happened the next week.

Try being objective sometime. It's not that hard.

 

[sb1]

Ridiculous revisionist history

Nothing revisionist at all in that post. That defense was trash.

 

[PF_SU]

2010 Pats were an absurd +23 in TO ratio.

Explains how they allowed only 19ppg

They were #21 in drives ending in a score but #1 in drives ending in a turnover. Likewise they were #30 in yards per drive but #16 in points per drive.

 

[patsinthesnow]

The Pats defense that was on the field vs. the Jets in the playoffs:




Keep in mind that Ninkovich was nowhere near the player in 2010 that he was from 2012-2014. This unit also included Chung 1.0 rather than Chung 2.0.

That D is rough. We're better at arguably every secondary spot this year (especially in man coverage).

 

[PF_SU]

The Pats defense that was on the field vs. the Jets in the playoffs:




Keep in mind that Ninkovich was nowhere near the player in 2010 that he was from 2012-2014. This unit also included Chung 1.0 rather than Chung 2.0.

That D is rough. We're better at arguably every secondary spot this year (especially in man coverage).

Of those 11 the only ones to start for this year's defence (playing at their 2010 level) would be Wilfork, Mayo, McCourty and probably Ninkovich.

 

[NG Pats Fan]

Nothing revisionist at all in that post. That defense was trash.

Actually there is, you lay no good evidence as to why Pittsburgh would have beaten us in the playoffs. They played that year in Pittsburgh, and the patriots put up nearly 500 yards of offense and 39 points. The game wasn't close. The opinion you laid out has no substance for Pitt reversing the result.

The patriots went 14-2 that year, 14 and friggin 2. Accept it. No team was better in the regular season. We choked in the playoffs.

 

[captain stone]

I'm of the belief that, had the Pats beaten the Jesters - and they easily should've been ahead 10-0
by the time the Jesters had the ball at their own 40 with 1 minute left in the 1st quarter - the Pats
would've found a way to defeat PitsDirt in Foxborough.
However, they probably would've lost to Rodgers & the Packers in the SB. But if 2006 & 2007 had
gone our way, I could've lived with that.

 

[Bradyking12]

Thanks but no thanks.

Awesome I'm watching, wish me luck

 

[denverpatsfan]

That playoff loss was as surprising as the 2005 loss in Denver. Nobody saw that coming. Pats couldn't stop the Jets 1st down run game. That set up Sanchez for a 3rd and short many, many times. They made it easier on him. Add in the short fields and you have the start of a disaster.

KC will be a real tough out. They excel in all three phases of the game. I would not be surprised if the Pats lose.

 

[patsfan-1982]

the jets where one of the 2 losses that team had the other was a blow out loss to the browns of all teams. so that team liked to over look teams. and BOB was good at calling a offense but not at adjusting on the fly the way josh dose and that defense was not good a nuff to hold teams back when the offense goes through it 3 and out spells,

any given Sunday but I don't see anyone in the AFC beating the pats this year

 

[Pessimistic Pete]

I feel this year has been a lot of demonstrating fixes to things that have bit us in the ass in past (even consistently or just recently)

Not being prepared to win without Gronk?
Brady has more weapons at this very moment than he ever has

Losing in Denver?
We beat them

Losing a wild game to Ravens?
We beat them.

Taking the foot off pedal in December?
We finished 7-0 and with a blowout in Miami

 

[RayClay]

I think all mike reiss is trying to say is to not get complacent because its any team can win in the playoffs

I dont think this team will. They seem to be on a mission. I mean they used last year as motivation to beat miami.

He also has to write about something every day. He has that in common with all columnists. He posts a lot more actual information than most, but he needs to come up with a fresh angle sometimes cause that vaccuum needs to be filled.

 

[ausbacker]

The Pats defense that was on the field vs. the Jets in the playoffs:




Keep in mind that Ninkovich was nowhere near the player in 2010 that he was from 2012-2014. This unit also included Chung 1.0 rather than Chung 2.0.

That D is rough. We're better at arguably every secondary spot this year (especially in man coverage).

If anyone thought Patrick Chung would become one of the better Strong Safeties in the NFL and that Marcus Cannon would be named to the Second Team All Pro, I'd happily call them a liar. Remarkable turnaround for a couple of now incredibly important players.

 

[sb1]

Actually there is, you lay no good evidence as to why Pittsburgh would have beaten us in the playoffs. They played that year in Pittsburgh, and the patriots put up nearly 500 yards of offense and 39 points. The game wasn't close. The opinion you laid out has no substance for Pitt reversing the result.

The patriots went 14-2 that year, 14 and friggin 2. Accept it. No team was better in the regular season. We choked in the playoffs.

Yeah and the 2007 Patriots offense had their way with the Giants in week 17 that year... guess your logic means they are guaranteed they'd do the same in the Super Bowl

Calling it a choke doesn't matter to me. I don't give a crap that they were 14-2... that defense was garbage. They sucked in the regular season, they sucked in that Jets playoff game and they would have sucked if they advanced. A team with a defense like that does not belong in any conversation about great teams. Not an opinion. Fact.

The stench from that defense was masked by Tom Brady playing as high a level as we've ever seen even by his standards. Any lesser QB or an off year from Tom and theres a decent chance that probably wasn't even a playoff team.

You can't argue that this is wrong because then you'd be wrong. Period. They were not the first nor the last team to overachieve their true talent level.

That team does not beat the Steelers had they moved on. No way.

 

[Nunchucks]

Yeah and the 2007 Patriots offense had their way with the Giants in week 17 that year... guess your logic means they are guaranteed they'd do the same in the Super Bowl

Calling it a choke doesn't matter to me. I don't give a crap that they were 14-2... that defense was garbage. They sucked in the regular season, they sucked in that Jets playoff game and they would have sucked if they advanced. A team with a defense like that does not belong in any conversation about great teams. Not an opinion. Fact.

The stench from that defense was masked by Tom Brady playing as high a level as we've ever seen even by his standards. Any lesser QB or an off year from Tom and theres a decent chance that probably wasn't even a playoff team.

You can't argue that this is wrong because then you'd be wrong. Period. They were not the first nor the last team to overachieve their true talent level.

That team does not beat the Steelers had they moved on. No way.

I don't know that the Steelers would have beaten the Patriots. The Jets defense was really good, better than the Steelers by far.