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Reiss mailbag: doesn't trust new football checking procedures

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http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story.../new-england-patriots-mailbag-early-surprises

Q. Mike, do you think we will ever hear about any deflation of footballs once they start testing them? I suspect that they will check a ball and then re-inflate it so there is no record of how much air is actually lost during the course of a game. That way, they can say all footballs used where within the regulations but never have actual readings. There's no way they throw egg on their own faces. -- Dan (Leominster, Massachusetts)


A. Dan, I don't expect transparency from the NFL on this. My confidence in that is broken based on the league's handling of the investigation on multiple layers, which I view as questionable.

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Me too, Mike, I don't trust them at all.
 
I used to enjoy Mike's mailbag and columns. However, after what they have done to our team and Tom Brady, I have no desire to support their product/brand. I hope Teddy and Mike break away from BSPN and go to work for a company that has some integrity.
 
http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story.../new-england-patriots-mailbag-early-surprises

Q. Mike, do you think we will ever hear about any deflation of footballs once they start testing them? I suspect that they will check a ball and then re-inflate it so there is no record of how much air is actually lost during the course of a game. That way, they can say all footballs used where within the regulations but never have actual readings. There's no way they throw egg on their own faces. -- Dan (Leominster, Massachusetts)


A. Dan, I don't expect transparency from the NFL on this. My confidence in that is broken based on the league's handling of the investigation on multiple layers, which I view as questionable.

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Me too, Mike, I don't trust them at all.

Yup, that was my immediate thought as soon as they announced this too. They're going to figure out how to massage these numbers to suggest that the Pats might have cheated. If they can't manage that, they'll just make **** up like always.
 
Oh WTF does the NFL and anybody expect to happen when you take the ball from the dressing room (@70 degrees) to a field that may be hotter or colder. It's going to change based on natural laws that are beyond dispute. There are no invisible magic domes surrounding NFL stadiums that will battle Mother Nature for control of the internal pressure of the pigskin bladder.

All the NFL has done is given a host of folks out there the opportunity to debate and criticize on every single piece of data they release on this matter.
 
The Patriots absolutely need to control this procedures and log every data they collect with an independent auditor following the procedures.

They also need to control the food and water the players ingest that are provided on the road.
 
Yup, that was my immediate thought as soon as they announced this too. They're going to figure out how to massage these numbers to suggest that the Pats might have cheated. If they can't manage that, they'll just make **** up like always.

They will spot check at 31 stadiums in 70-75 degree weather, and in Foxboro when it is 10 degrees.
Then they will make all of the measurements public.
 
Then why doesn't Reiss ask his employer to hire its own science team? Oh wait... He works for Espn , never mind.
 
Seriously though. I hope Kraft hires his own team and makes the results public every game for added entertainment.
 
I think Reiss just being cynical. I fully expect if the PSI data at the end of the year shows that the Patriots' footballs in the AFCCG show probably deflated because of weather, I expect Goodell to hold a special news conference to apologize to the Patriots and Brady. Goodell is all about the integrity of the shield and I trust him implicitly. The guy has not even been accused of lying never mind being caught.
 
They will spot check at 31 stadiums in 70-75 degree weather, and in Foxboro when it is 10 degrees.
Then they will make all of the measurements public.

In all seriousness, I think they know there are some tricks they can play that will go over the heads of most people. Would probably gauge the Pats' balls immediately after bringing them into the locker room, and with everyone else would crank up the heat and wait until the end of half time.

That's why I wouldn't trust any measurements unless a) they came from an independent source, or b) The NFL had every instance of measurement documented on video, with the field temperature, locker room temperature, precise time of measurement, and starting PSI for each ball meticulously recorded and preserved.

Basically, unless they record pressures under the exact same circumstances as they did in the AFCCG, their end result is junk for comparative purposes. But they know the media and general public is too dumb to hold them to any kind of standard.
 
I have as much confidence in the NFL executing properly on their new ball handling/testing procedures as I do bringing my car to Jiffy Lube.
 
I don't expect transparency from the NFL on this. My confidence in that is broken based on the league's handling of the investigation on multiple layers
This, to my mind, is the seed of the possibly big story underlying this sordid affair. To anyone who takes the time to understand the details, the NFL has lost credibility. And it is not just with the Patriots, who are only the latest victims. As Steph Stradley (and a couple of folks on this site) has been saying for years and recently reiterated:
The biggest mistake Kraft made wasn't fighting the punishment right away. It was not realizing the danger of a commissioner who craves power and PR over sense and fair process.
http://www.stradleylaw.com/deflategate-legal-faqs-settlement/

Goodell has destroyed any pretense of credibility the NFL had and made a mockery of any claim to NFL integrity. People do not care about the Patriots, any more than 99% of us cared about Goodell 's warped sense of justice in Bountygate. But a story about how Goodell and his cronies have corrupted the NFL is a story with a much larger audience. If someone were to publish this story, the level of national noise would be much greater. Possibly reaching the ears of the owners who have been happy to sit this one out to watch the Patriots twist in the breeze of Goodell's PR machine. If the story were the corruption of the NFL by Goodell, then the owners would have a problem. And there would really only be one solution: Goodell must go. Oh sure they could consider sacrificing Kensil or Pash, but these are Roger's boys and the buck stops with Commissioner.

Goodell was never interested in the facts or in justice. He had his own self-serving agenda and he paid Wells and Exponent $5 million in a effort to prop up the trumped up charges against the Patriots. At the same time, he oversaw and participated in manipulation of the national media to shape public opinion in his favor--first with the false PSI release to Mort and then in upholding his suspension of Brady his personal accusation of phone destruction leaked to Stephen A. Smith. Curiously, both men are employed by the same network that refused to retract the fallacious PSI story and happens to have a $2 billion contract with the NFL. Setting aside his previous transgressions, having just spent millions of the owners dollars on an unnecessary "investigation" that is transparently biased (if only the owners would read it) and disseminated false information to defame the league's most successful team and greatest player, and refused the patriots request to shine the spotlight on his own organization, Goodell is in way too deep to turn back now.

No matter what happens with Brady's case, if Goodell remains as Commissioner is there any doubt that another "-gate" is around the corner? If the chants of corruption get loud enough, the owners would see their edifice being made a mockery of, and the only way for the NFL to restore credibility is to cut ties with Goodell. Goodell must go.

This is an unlikely scenario, of course, and still would not restore the damage Goodell et al. have done to the reputations of our team and our quarterback. But a new commissioner could recognize that new procedures will prevent a similar incident moving forward, and set aside any and all judgments based on the inherently flawed data accumulated by Wells in the absence of any credible PSI protocol. As crazy as this might be, it is the only thing the owners could do to restore any sense of fairness and credibility to their league.
 
I think Reiss just being cynical. I fully expect if the PSI data at the end of the year shows that the Patriots' footballs in the AFCCG show probably deflated because of weather, I expect Goodell to hold a special news conference to apologize to the Patriots and Brady. Goodell is all about the integrity of the shield and I trust him implicitly. The guy has not even been accused of lying never mind being caught.

Right,

And right after that The girl from the AT&T commercials is going to show up at my place for dinner and a movie/
 
Seriously though. I hope Kraft hires his own team and makes the results public every game for added entertainment.


This has been something I have suggested as stadium entertainment.

When the temp is below 50 have a regulation fb inflate it to 12.5 psi note the temp inside have a go with a video cam, use a live stream in the stadium and on patriots.com have a televised process ion of the ball to the field to a pedi stall on the sideline at halftime take a psi measurement stream it in the stadium and announce the results in the stadium. Issue a press release each time with a link to the video on you tube.
 
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The way Jeff Pash, Greg Aiello and T. David Gardi ACTIVELY conspired to misrepresent and not correct the PSi measurements (it's there in black and white folks - - Gardi's letter, Pash and Aiello's email responses to Robyn Glaser, etc.).

And they want a SECOND attempt at it?

Maybe Nicole Simpson's older sister should give OJ a second chance and marry him?


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in cold games they could just wait a half hour to check them, or however long it takes.

what's hilarious is that any of these testings would mean anything -- like they can refute the laws of nature.
put a football in your fridge a half hour, check it and get back to us.
 
I used to enjoy Mike's mailbag and columns. However, after what they have done to our team and Tom Brady, I have no desire to support their product/brand. I hope Teddy and Mike break away from BSPN and go to work for a company that has some integrity.
That's very noble in theory but the last time I checked, the sporting workplace isn't hungry for journalists or ex-athletes
 
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