Question on Scar & BB

[Froob]

Might be kinda a dumb question but, I recall Scar telling BB to get away from the o line once because their his boys, is Scar in near full control of the o line with him having like 30 years of experience or do you guys think BB is very involved too? Sounds like Scar has very high pull in the draft at least.

 

[Uptown]

I DO believe Scar has very very high pull & the utmost respect of BB, but all in all it's the hoodie's team. Scar has stated this in interviews before.

But I also believe BB lets Scar handle his handle, especially given his excellence & seniority.

 

[FreeTedWilliams]

The difference between last night and the AFC Championship game was astonishing!

Scar has obviously done a great job, so no need for BB to interfere with that

 

[RobertWeathers]

I think that Scar and BB are on the same philosophical page.

Because they are, BB has given Scar complete autonomy over the group.

I'm 100% confident that if there was some misalignment on a player or a technique, it would be resolved in about 12 seconds.

 

[Ring 6]

Might be kinda a dumb question but, I recall Scar telling BB to get away from the o line once because their his boys, is Scar in near full control of the o line with him having like 30 years of experience or do you guys think BB is very involved too? Sounds like Scar has very high pull in the draft at least.

When do you recall that from?
Think you misremember.

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

All Dante has done since he came here in '82 on Ron Meyer's staff is make enormous contributions to help this team win. You want tough? He's tough. And he's the best.

Bill Belichick worked with/for Parcells for years. He's a big boy and can take anything anyone dishes out.

I've always said, I'd be far more honored to have Belichick or Red Auerbach (or Scar) chew me out than to receive the highest praise from somebody else.

 

[DarrylS]

BB is the consummate micro manager, so when he has an incredible experienced coach who pretty much mirrors what he wants he can let some of that responsibility go..

Those who have played for Scar acknowledge his ability to build confidence in the player and unit, and that translates into a whole different attitude on the field from last year.. the line is playing tough, physical football.

In the past two weeks we have seen Cameron Wake, Ndamukong Suh, JJ Watt and Jadeveon Clowney none of whom had any sacks.. there have only been 5 sacks in the first 3 games.. the O Line has definitely gotten better.

 

[TheFlyingWedge]

One of the cornerstones of BB's coaching philosophy is complimentary football. He probably doesn't give his coaches (coordinators or assistants) "full control" in the true sense that they are free to go off on their own and do whatever the want without an understanding of, or consideration for a bigger picture (game plan, organizational structure, team culture, etc.) which is ultimately rubber-stamped by BB. For example, Scars has to be in lockstep with the Josh McDaniels' offensive game plan since the O-line is a subset of the offense. Scars crew needs to also be on the same page as Ivan Fears and the RB's group, QB coach, etc...

That being said, BB has said that while he was an assistant, he enjoyed and greatly appreciated having some degree of freedom so he is probably not a control-freak type of manager. It probably comes down to trust. With Scars tenure and track record as the O-line coach, BB probably gives him more freedom that any of his assistants simply because the trust is so high there.

 

[AtomicDawg]

Couldn't find anywhere else to put this so this will do. I think Scar has a LOT to do with this.

 

[BobDigital]

I will say this about Scar and BB. If Scar and BB have a disagreement about something I think Scar is in the incredibly rare position where if he really believes they should do X and BB thinks Y then BB would probably say "you know.. lets try to do X".

Of course BB might mention options but i believe if BB were to look objectively at it (and he probably has) he would have no choice but to come to the conclusion that while he knows more about football than Scar; Scar knows more about the OL and what it takes to get them to play well than BB.

 

[FirstAndGoal]

It's called "chain of command" and all military people know it.

Scar is a Marine. BB grew up around the military.

Any good Sgt protects "his guys" from higher ups.

I had a SFC do the same thing when I was young and you notice... I used to have a CSM who used to like to harrass the soldiers (E1- E4) and I remember my SFC (Platoon Sgt) telling the CSM (his boss by a couple of levels) that he was to leave us alone and if he (CSM) had a problem with his (SFC) men, then he should address him and leave us alone. but until then, F off.

I figured out that day that good leaders protect their people and aren't afraid to tell their superiors when they're wrong. Also, good leaders know when they're wrong and respect when someone tells them they're wrong. Good leaders in hierarchies protect their assets and keep them focused on their own tasks. Good superiors use their "chain of command" effectively and don't micromanage individuals. BB was being told that he wasn't invited to the party at that moment and Scar needed their focus. BB smartly knew that Scar was on top of things and backed off.

You see this over and over again in the military where roles and responsibilities are clearly spelled out more than you see as a civilian so I'm not surprised to see it play out with these two.

 

[PatsFan2]

Maccus Cannon and Cameron Flemming's improvemts alone is a testament to Dante Scar.

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

One of the cornerstones of BB's coaching philosophy is complimentary football. He probably doesn't give his coaches (coordinators or assistants) "full control" in the true sense that they are free to go off on their own and do whatever the want without an understanding of, or consideration for a bigger picture (game plan, organizational structure, team culture, etc.) which is ultimately rubber-stamped by BB. For example, Scars has to be in lockstep with the Josh McDaniels' offensive game plan since the O-line is a subset of the offense. Scars crew needs to also be on the same page as Ivan Fears and the RB's group, QB coach, etc...

That being said, BB has said that while he was an assistant, he enjoyed and greatly appreciated having some degree of freedom so he is probably not a control-freak type of manager. It probably comes down to trust. With Scars tenure and track record as the O-line coach, BB probably gives him more freedom that any of his assistants simply because the trust is so high there.

In addition to everything he's done since, Scar coached our special teams and tight ends from '82-'88, including Super Bowl XX. He belongs in the Patriots' HOF.