Proposed catch rule changes made by 345 Park Ave (Patriots DID IT AGAIN)

[maineman209]

The fact that posts like this get rated “Useful” is one of my favorite things about this forum.

Mine, too!

 

[XLIX]

For 70+ years of NFL history everyone knew what a catch was. Fraudger and his crew got in there and no one has been clear on it since. They 'fixed' something that wasn't broken and have spent every year since trying to figure out how to get that season's toothpaste back in the tube.

This problem precedes Goodell becoming Commissioner. It is a function of the super slo-mo, multi-angle replays bombarding the viewer 24/7 after every close call. The first prominent change to the catch rule came in 2000 following the famous Bert Emanuel play in the NFCCG and they've been tinkering with it ever since.

Since then we've added the element of HD to NFL games to make the whole thing even more confusing. The constant social media, hot-take sports society within which we live guarantees no possible solution to this problem.

 

[Ring 6]

Patriots sure handed Receivers like Gronk and Edelman are going to have a lot of catches. This rule change might make Gronk re-think his possible early retirement.

I actually believe that the talk about Gronk being frustrated was frustration with referees and the way he gets held and interferes with, and gets no calls, not an issue in the organization.
I don’t if this will help but it can’t hurt.

 

[Ring 6]

This problem precedes Goodell becoming Commissioner. It is a function of the super slo-mo, multi-angle replays bombarding the viewer 24/7 after every close call. The first prominent change to the catch rule came in 2000 following the famous Bert Emanuel play in the NFCCG and they've been tinkering with it ever since.

Since then we've added the element of HD to NFL games to make the whole thing even more confusing. The constant social media, hot-take sports society within which we live guarantees no possible solution to this problem.

Exactly. The NFL us trying to respond to things that get talked about negatively by changing rules. Thet added replay after blowing many critical calls but they still haven’t decided whether replay is supposed to get the right call made or just catch the blatant misses and they waffle back and forth.
To me if you are going to replay it then something like a millisecond bobble should count rather than making a judgment call out of how much the call was missed by.

Trying to make rules with the goal of fans never complaining about officiating is ridiculous, impossible, short sighted, and goodellian.

 

[Ring 6]

That’s what I’m trying to sort out. If a guy catches it for a second but then it gets ripped out right after... that’s now a fumble. Pats D will be knocking it away and then scooping it up as a fumble from a Week 1 and people will be losing their ****.

Well if you do not have to maintain possession to survive the ground there will have to be replays to determine whether you are down by contact first or if it’s a fumble.

Since the goal is now everything close is a catch,there will be many fumbles.

 

[Tony2046]

Well if you do not have to maintain possession to survive the ground there will have to be replays to determine whether you are down by contact first or if it’s a fumble.

Since the goal is now everything close is a catch,there will be many fumbles.

The same mediots complaining what was a catch will now complain what is a fumble.

 

[Soliel]

I love the sport but the league sux

 

[Bill Lee]

Compare it to a tape of my ex during intercourse?

Sounds like buyer's remorse to me...

Note to our younger forum members: Marry in haste, repent in leisure!

 

[aluminum seats]

The existing rule was perfect.

 

[Koma]

I think Troy Vincent was misquoted. I'm sure he said "we worked ass backwards"

“We worked backward,” said Troy Vincent, the NFL’s executive vice president of football operations. “We looked at plays and said: Do you want that to be a catch? And then we applied that to the rule.”

That whole statement by Vincent seems like it's out of a parody. This isn't someone from a new football league explaining how they'll be different from the NFL. Or someone who's part of a new management team after the old group was swept out for incompetence. Vincent and the Competition Committee are the ones who came up with the prior guidelines on what constituted a catch. Now, they're going back, watching plays that were overturned based on the criteria that they set and are asking "Do we want that to be a catch?" They're the ones who created this situation. Does anyone seriously believe they'll be able to fix it?

In the big picture, the league should stop making rule changes every time some losing team whines about being on the wrong side of a questionable call. As it relates to the catch rule, the competition committee might as well put "Did we really want that to be a catch?" as the first discussion topic on their March 2019 agenda

 

[Flash]

They are doing this to appease the vocal minorities who didn't like the previous catch rules...

 

[Observer]

There better be a lot more fumbles now or the rule is not being applied right

 

[QuantumMechanic]

For 70+ years of NFL history everyone knew what a catch was. Fraudger and his crew got in there and no one has been clear on it since. They 'fixed' something that wasn't broken and have spent every year since trying to figure out how to get that season's toothpaste back in the tube.

It’s been broken well before Goodell. It’s been broken since they changed it for the 2000 season.

 

[ThatllMoveTheChains!!!]

Trying out the new rule in the Super Bowl was a bold move, but we all know Rog and Co are visionaries.

 

[maust]

It’s been broken well before Goodall. It’s been broken since 1999.

Not like this it hasn't. It jumped the shark when they essentially obviated 'football move'

 

[Patriot Missile]

Goes both ways. Patriots will benefit from this rule as well.

However, I hate it. Never liked the crossing the plane rule and I don't like this one either as far as taking away from skilled plays. What's next? One foot inbounds?

 

[JMC00]

Goes both ways. Patriots will benefit from this rule as well.

And when they do there'll be an uproar that it did and whatever rule will be tweaked, the "surviving the ground" rule is being changed because the Pats benefited from the proper rule. The slight movement change a lot of stems from the Benjamin TD against the Pats that was overruled.

and when it goes against them (Clement TD in the SB) no one will utter a peep.

 

[Tony2046]

That whole statement by Vincent seems like it's out of a parody. This isn't someone from a new football league explaining how they'll be different from the NFL. Or someone who's part of a new management team after the old group was swept out for incompetence. Vincent and the Competition Committee are the ones who came up with the prior guidelines on what constituted a catch. Now, they're going back, watching plays that were overturned based on the criteria that they set and are asking "Do we want that to be a catch?" They're the ones who created this situation. Does anyone seriously believe they'll be able to fix it?

In the big picture, the league should stop making rule changes every time some losing team whines about being on the wrong side of a questionable call. As it relates to the catch rule, the competition committee might as well put "Did we really want that to be a catch?" as the first discussion topic on their March 2019 agenda

Their first discussion on their March 2019 agenda will be "Did we really want that to be a fumble".

 

[patriot1136]

Not trying to be a pain in the ass here, but serious question with these potential changes, which of the touchdown catches in the Super Bowl would have been legit or incomplete?

 

[QuantumMechanic]

Not like this it hasn't. It jumped the shark when they essentially obviated 'football move'

They changed it from "football move" to essentially "possessed it long enough to have done a football move", which IMHO was an improvement. But it's still been broken since 2000.