Pro Bowl voting & Patriot players (merged many times)

[PushnPencils]

Re: Meriweather...pro bowler??

I guarantee we could get two #1 picks for him!

Other than Daniel Snyder......who would pull that boner. Wow that sounds bad.

 

[patriotscpfc]

Re: Pro Bowl voting & Patriot players

You mean like earlier in the year when BMW and Chung were starting, even with a healthy Wilhite?

Yes. Chung at SS. Meri at FS. Wilhite at Nickel.

Now on passing downs it's: Chung at Nickel. Meri at SS. Sanders at FS.

When we're not in the Nickel, it's Chung and Sanders.

Or since we don't really have SS/FS, Left Safety and Right Safety.

 

[PushnPencils]

Re: Meriweather...pro bowler??

The best hit the guy had all year was the one on McCourty against GB.

 

[TX_Patriot]

Re: Meriweather...pro bowler??

I was killed 2 months ago for saying Meriweather wasn't good...now, look at the reaction to him getting into the Pro Bowl. I'm not gloating, I swear, but how opinions have changed.

At least we know what the big off-season story will be, How on Earth could the Patriots trade a 2x Pro Bowler when they obviously need secondary help.

 

[Patspsycho]

Re: Meriweather...pro bowler??

Seriously....

He's horrible.

Can't wait for him to go bye bye come contract time.

My apologies to the forums version of the TSA if this has already been commented on.

Exactly how is he horrible?

Don't be one of the many posters that just call players names without knowing what they are talking about. If you think he's horrible, then you should explain why.

 

[Kid~Brady]

Re: Meriweather...pro bowler??

Exactly how is he horrible?

Don't be one of the many posters that just call players names without knowing what they are talking about. If you think he's horrible, then you should explain why.

thats very berry true!

 

[SONS_OF_BELICHICK]

Re: Meriweather...pro bowler??

Mr Big Bang Clock ....... has a huge following .....since he gets his clock cleaned quite often

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

Re: Meriweather...pro bowler??

hes not horrible..just not a pro bowler

 

[RobertWeathers]

Re: Meriweather...pro bowler??

hes not horrible..just not a pro bowler

This......

 

[West Philly Patriot]

Re: Meriweather...pro bowler??

hes not horrible..just not a pro bowler

I approve this message.

 

[PushnPencils]

Re: Meriweather...pro bowler??

Exactly how is he horrible?

Don't be one of the many posters that just call players names without knowing what they are talking about. If you think he's horrible, then you should explain why.

Oh boy...another I know more about football than you do internet tough guy.

Meriweather is a DUMB football player. Period. On a team filled with heady, team first players, his dopey play sticks out like a sore thumb.

Takes bad angles, seems to always be the second or third guy on the tackle.

More importantly, he has not grown or matured as a football player.

He's not a game-changer, he's not a leader...

 

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

Re: Meriweather...pro bowler??

Its very obvious to me that he tries to play like Polamalu does

You can see it in his every move,He likes to run around the field and fly to the receiver like superman,almost sideways sometimes - more often than not all he does is smack the receiver on his hips and bounces off only forcing the receiver to get pushed to the left or right but while Meriweather has landed on the turf from the air,the receiver continues on down the field towards the goal line.

The difference between Merweather and Polamalu is Troy flies around the field like superman AND makes the sure tackles,Meriweather does not wrap up his guy like Troy does and looks like he would rather knock him out than tackle him.

If he ever learns to fly and hit AND tackle he could be a great player,right now he is not even close.

 

[JackBauer]

Re: Meriweather...pro bowler??

Oh boy...another I know more about football than you do internet tough guy.

Whoa, boy.

 

[drew4008]

Re: Meriweather...pro bowler??

I hate Meriweather as much as anyone. I think he's a little punk, and it actually makes me sick to watch him play. Always celebrating after making a tackle (after a big gain on a blown coverage of his usually) and always running his mouth at other players... he just does not typify a New England football player in any way.

With that said, he isn't "horrible"... but he certainly isn't among the top half of safeties in the AFC. I'll be happy to see him go... hopefully he goes somewhere like Baltimore or Cincinnati, he belongs with all the other thugs.

And just for the record, Rodney was one of my favorite Patriots... so I have no problem with the "dirty player" label, it's just the way Meriweather goes about playing football is disgraceful to me.

 

[PushnPencils]

Re: Meriweather...pro bowler??

Whoa, boy.

Yeah.....you know.....this guy------>

 

[convertedpatsfan]

Re: Pro Bowl voting & Patriot players

Congrats to the guys who made it.

Meriweather is in line to bump his salary by $500K because of it, which kinda sucks because he wasn't as good as last season. But oh well, reputation matters a lot in these things.

I'd rather have seen Sanders or Chung get in over Meriweather, though I don't think any of those 3 are really Pro Bowl worthy.

Everyone else was extremely worthy though for the Pats. Glad to see Devin make it too.

 

[JackBauer]

Re: Meriweather...pro bowler??

I hate Meriweather as much as anyone. I think he's a little punk, and it actually makes me sick to watch him play. Always celebrating after making a tackle (after a big gain on a blown coverage of his usually) and always running his mouth at other players... he just does not typify a New England football player in any way.

With that said, he isn't "horrible"... but he certainly isn't among the top half of safeties in the AFC. I'll be happy to see him go... hopefully he goes somewhere like Baltimore or Cincinnati, he belongs with all the other thugs.

And just for the record, Rodney was one of my favorite Patriots... so I have no problem with the "dirty player" label, it's just the way Meriweather goes about playing football is disgraceful to me.

Why don't you go ahead and rate the safeties in the AFC for us?

 

[patriotscpfc]

Re: Meriweather...pro bowler??

I hate Meriweather as much as anyone. I think he's a little punk, and it actually makes me sick to watch him play. Always celebrating after making a tackle (after a big gain on a blown coverage of his usually) and always running his mouth at other players... he just does not typify a New England football player in any way.

With that said, he isn't "horrible"... but he certainly isn't among the top half of safeties in the AFC. I'll be happy to see him go... hopefully he goes somewhere like Baltimore or Cincinnati, he belongs with all the other thugs.

And just for the record, Rodney was one of my favorite Patriots... so I have no problem with the "dirty player" label, it's just the way Meriweather goes about playing football is disgraceful to me.

I'd like to point out that i'm not on this bandwagon.

I don't hate Meriweather. I have no care for his attitude or things like that.

I personally think he is a decent safety, not great. I think Chung and Sanders are better and I don't think they are great.

The earlier comparison to Polamalu is right. Except Meriweather has no instincts and cannot tackle which doesn't help him

 

[Lansdowne]

Re: Pro Bowl voting & Patriot players

I had a dream that Aaron Hernandez was selected to the Pro Bowl as Antonio Gates' replacement. Then I woke up and realized that wasn't going to happen, least not this year.

Why Hernandez and not Gronk?

Gronkowski: 49 targets, 36 receptions, 444 yards, 9 touchdowns
Hernandez: 64 targets, 45 receptions, 563 yards, 6 touchdowns

Gronk is considered the more complete TE (he's a better blocker and a bigger target) whereas Hernandez is a more explosive receiver. They both compliment the Patriots offense well, but they offset each other when picking a Pro Bowl candidate. I must have thought of Hernandez because numbers usually rule the day when picking a Pro Bowler and Hernandez has the advantage there.

But the problem for Hernandez is among AFC TE's he ranks only 9th in targets (passes thrown to him), 8th in receptions, 7th in receiving yards, and while he has more touchdowns than all but 3 other AFC TE, one of them happens to be his teammate Gronkowski.

Odds are that Jacob Tamme will get selected as Gates' replacement (another one of Peyton's non-weapons ), next is a toss-up between Dustin Keller, Zach Miller, and Benjamin Watson, all of whom have identical stats, then a choice of rookie TE's (the Pats TE's, Moeaki, Gresham).

 

[Deus Irae]

Re: Pro Bowl voting & Patriot players

What because someone has a different opinion to you?

No. I don't mind different opinions on things that are legitimately arguable. That's a large part of what makes sports discussions fun. Barry Sanders v. Jim Brown v. Walter Payton v. Bo Jackson, etc... That's good stuff. The reason you must be hitting the pipe is because you're making ridiculous assertions. There's a difference. Meriweather is the team's starter. Page is not. Either BB is unjustly holding Page back, or he doesn't have Page ranked higher than those ahead of him. To the best of my knowledge, the only situation where BB has ever really deferred making the switch in such a case was Brady/Bledsoe.

It's the same reality that the Maroney basher, Light bashers, etc... like to ignore when they insist a backup is better than the starter on this team.

Look at the Patriots beat writers, Look at the National writers, hell even look at ProFootballFocus.

ProFootballFocus is a joke of a site. Why would I look there? As for the writers, the Pro Bowl is determined largely (2/3) by coaches and players. I'll take that, generally, over what Mike Reiss and Ron Borges decide.

The guy is 3rd best Safety at best.

Then why is he the starter? In Buffalo, he played every snap, along with Chung. Page played 22 fewer snaps and Sanders barely saw the field. Is BB trying to hold back better players? Meriweather was also the safety who played the most snaps against the Jets, by a wide margin. The week before that, he and Sanders were the safeties with the most snaps, and the same thing happened the week prior. The week before that, it was Meriweather getting 77 of 78 snaps.

The truth is that there was a two week stretch between the Jets and Bills games where Meriweather wasn't a top snaps guy and, strangely enough, they coincided with a reported lateness issue. Outside of that, Meriweather is the team's #1 safety.

Chung and Sanders are the starters.

See above

Meriweather is a liability. His coverage skills are ok, his freelancing is terrible. His big hits and interceptions are what has got him this recognition.

You should explain all of this to Belichick. I'm sure he'd appreciate your saving him from continuing to make the mistake of believing that Meriweather is his best option at safety for most snaps.