Pre Game Thread- Pats @ Browns

[ashley]

Some defensive leaders through week 5 :

 

[PatsFan2]

Some defensive leaders through week 5 :

No love for Kyle Dugger he's a really good player I like him.

 

[PatsFan2]

Getting everyone ready for a Wednesday:

Lil Hump being waived means more time for T Thornton. It wouldn't surprise me if Agholor is among the Inactives.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

Ugghh , streaming again for this guy

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[crawhammer]

I would expect this matchup to play out differently than last season with Chubb and Hunt active this time around. Chubb has been a challenge for every defense so far... the Patriots 22nd ranked run defense needs to tighten up or Chubb is going to wear them out. On the flip side, the Browns run defense is worse than the Patriots so this could be another great opportunity for Stevenson. Myles Garrett can be a game wrecker too so there will need to be some added attention on him. Brissett, especially in comparison to Watson, is not scaring anyone. He's not an efficient passer (career completion percentage of 60.6%) but he also doesn't turn the ball over much (career INT% of 1.5%).

This should be a close, lower scoring game dominated by the RBs on both sides. Probably will come down to which quarterback makes fewer mistakes.

 

[PatsFan2]

I would expect this matchup to play out differently than last season with Chubb and Hunt active this time around. Chubb has been a challenge for every defense so far... the Patriots 22nd ranked run defense needs to tighten up or Chubb is going to wear them out. On the flip side, the Browns run defense is worse than the Patriots so this could be another great opportunity for Stevenson. Myles Garrett can be a game wrecker too so there will need to be some added attention on him. Brissett, especially in comparison to Watson, is not scaring anyone. He's not an efficient passer (career completion percentage of 60.6%) but he also doesn't turn the ball over much (career INT% of 1.5%).

This should be a close, lower scoring game dominated by the RBs on both sides. Probably will come down to which quarterback makes fewer mistakes.

You can tell Biscuit plays it safe from the QB position taking what the Defense gives him. We know his history I hope the plan is to stack the Box to stop Chubb.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

You can tell Biscuit plays it safe from the QB position taking what the Defense gives him. We know his history I hope the plan is to stack the Box to stop Chubb.

In the other thread the browns fan said hes prone to mistakes in key situations. Hopefully a good matchup for bb. Approach i think definitely will be focusing on chubb and making someone else beat us. I feel pretty good about this one!

 

[BB8XSBW]

Completely forgot Myles Garrett was still in the league. Since I don't watch any of the lesser 31 unless they are playing the Patriots, and Myles Garrett has been invisible against NE his entire career, you can understand why I would be unaware of his existence.

 

[sb1]

Browns stats through week 5. Goes without saying it's all about slowing down Chubb.

 

[crawhammer]

Completely forgot Myles Garrett was still in the league. Since I don't watch any of the lesser 31 unless they are playing the Patriots, and Myles Garrett has been invisible against NE his entire career, you can understand why I would be unaware of his existence.

Garrett has been an all-pro in 3 of the last 4 seasons and he only missed it in 2019 because he was injured. He's faced the Patriots twice and had a sack in each game but ultimately wasn't much of a factor in either game which the Patriots won easily. However, I'd be at least a little concerned with him barreling down on Jones or Zappe in the pocket.

 

[n1997y]

I think contracts have alot to do with Humphrey getting cut as opposed to Bourne, Bourne is signed through next year, at about 6 mil for both this year and next, cutting him now, incurs a 1.4 mil dead cap hit along with a 5.5 mil in extra cap space.

Whereas cutting Humphrey comes with no dead money and a cap space of @900k.

I expect Lil to be resigned to the PS .

Good point. And despite Bourne’s rough year this year he showed last year that he can be a productive WR for the Patriots.

 

[JayNM]

I hope our LB group keeps grinding week in and week out.

I think they will be imperative for our sucess (or failure) this game: Solid tackling is all I want to see, Chubb is a lil monster

 

[mgteich]

And despite Bourne’s rough year this year he showed last year that he can be a productive WR for the Patriots.

I agree.

Also, neither Myers nor Agholor is signed for next year.

Of course, we'd all like to re-sign Myers.

 

[ashley]

 

[gitgronked82]

Agahlor is keeping pace with Meyers for most targets. To date, Agahlor has caught the longest pass completion @ 44 yards. That must have been the play in Pittsburgh where he took the ball away from the Pitt DB for a TD.

Agahlor catch rate 73%
Parker catch rate 50%

Parker has all 5 games @ 84% snap counts.
Agahlor has started only 3 games @ 52% snap counts.

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If anything more of Agahlor. A 66% catch rate of catching 2 out of 3 passes is what youre looking for every day of the week. Parker has hovered near the 50% catch rate mark the majority of his career.

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Eh, their usage has been different. I’d expect Agholor to have the higher catch rate. He’s had more of a diet of short/intermediate crossers, while Parker has been largely involved in shot plays.
I will say Agholor has done a good job of beating man coverage. I think Bourne could do a good job as well though, and be even better with the ball in his hands.

 

[ashley]

 

[BB8XSBW]

Thank you for your service, Bailey, but you must now step aside for the GOAT. MJ returns this week.

 

[denverpatsfan]

Winnable game. Have to get it done. Would like to see Zappe start again. Let that ankle heal up another week. Love Zappe's pocket presence and escapability. Have to have that in today's NFL.

 

[gitgronked82]

I thought Mac looked good in the Reiss video. This tweet is a bit less encouraging, I suppose.

 

[jah]

I just want to remind everyone here, as I have just reminded myself, that the Patriots played the Browns last year and won 45-7 with Mac going 19-23, just under 200 yards, and 3 TD.

This won't be the same exact game as last year for a few reasons. The Browns are at home this time, the QB is less of an idiot than Mayfield, and they have Amari Cooper. Overall, nothing hugely game changing. If you weren't a fan of the Pats offseason, you'd probably hate the Browns offseason (without factoring in your feelings on Watson). They really didn't do much to improve their team from last year.

I'm not saying I expect an easy Patriots win again, but these 2 teams are not far off what they were a year ago and it was an easy Patriots win back then. Anything can happen, and small changes like Brissett over Mayfield can have ripple effects, but I'm feeling solid about this one.