Pre-Game Thread Bengals @ Pats

[crawhammer]

BB does not want to admit that Mac is bust.

He may not if Mac can turn it around next season (he's swirling down the toilet bowl this season). But I think BB may be less inclined to admit Patricia is a bust. If the rumors are true, that BB has notions of Patricia being his successor (at least as the HC), then it seems improbable that BB would scrap the entire plan after merely one season. We all know how stubborn BB is.

 

[catent]

the other two mainly from their contributions and lack of any attitude or leadership to improve their play

I think it's a bit unfair to infer anything about their character based on their on-field performance.

Everything I've read about both of them has spoken highly of them. I think they're both hard workers and have bought in, no attitude issues. I think they care and want to perform well.

Agholor is ultra athletic but has issues with his hands and balance. I like him, he flashes, but I'm not sure he's reliable. I don't trust him to not fumble the ball, either. I wish they would use him more on end arounds and LOS touches but I think that's the concern (potential fumbles).

Jonnu I think has a ton of untapped production. I can't recall the guy making any obvious mistakes or errors. Maybe a fumble. Jonnu is almost entirely a usage issue IMO. Every time they throw the ball his way and it's catchable, he catches it and makes a play, gets YAC, gets upfield. I think he's had some issues with run blocking but he could be doing a lot more with a competent offense and good quarterback play.

Just my two cents.

 

[Tom Tupa]

If the rumors are true, that BB has notions of Patricia being his successor (at least as the HC), then it seems improbable that BB would scrap the entire plan after merely one season.

This idea makes me never want to watch football ever again.

 

[signbabybrady]

I think it's a bit unfair to infer anything about their character based on their on-field performance.

Everything I've read about both of them has spoken highly of them. I think they're both hard workers and have bought in, no attitude issues. I think they care and want to perform well.

Agholor is ultra athletic but has issues with his hands and balance. I like him, he flashes, but I'm not sure he's reliable. I don't trust him to not fumble the ball, either. I wish they would use him more on end arounds and LOS touches but I think that's the concern (potential fumbles).

Jonnu I think has a ton of untapped production. I can't recall the guy making any obvious mistakes or errors. Maybe a fumble. Jonnu is almost entirely a usage issue IMO. Every time they throw the ball his way and it's catchable, he catches it and makes a play, gets YAC, gets upfield. I think he's had some issues with run blocking but he could be doing a lot more with a competent offense and good quarterback play.

Just my two cents.

I agree with your 2 cents

 

[State]

Bad offense, spotty special teams, a very good defense which, however, doesn’t match up with the Bengals.

We can keep it close a quarter or two before Joe Burrow buries us.

 

[PaulThePat]

BB has notions of Patricia being his successor (at least as the HC)

Kraft needs to have a word.

 

[crawhammer]

Jonnu I think has a ton of untapped production. I can't recall the guy making any obvious mistakes or errors. Maybe a fumble. Jonnu is almost entirely a usage issue IMO. Every time they throw the ball his way and it's catchable, he catches it and makes a play, gets YAC, gets upfield. I think he's had some issues with run blocking but he could be doing a lot more with a competent offense and good quarterback play.

I was skeptical of the Jonnu signing because his Tennessee numbers are thoroughly unimpressive. He's done absolutely nothing in a Patriots uniform. 29 games and 1 TD for instance. It seems likely his ceiling is average at best.

 

[crawhammer]

Kraft needs to have a word.

BB may just tell him to FO. Then what?

 

[ashley]

Bad offense, spotty special teams, a very good defense which, however, doesn’t match up with the Bengals.

We can keep it close a quarter or two before Joe Burrow buries us.

We haven't been blown out of many games this year. I think if we avoid the turnovers, with our defense, this should be a competitive game.

 

[State]

I was skeptical of the Jonnu signing because his Tennessee numbers are thoroughly unimpressive. He's done absolutely nothing in a Patriots uniform. 29 games and 1 TD for instance. It seems likely his ceiling is average at best.

But you should see how fast he cashes his checks.

 

[State]

We haven't been blown out of many games this year. I think if we avoid the turnovers, with our defense, this should be a competitive game.

For the first half. I’ll grant you that.

 

[State]

Fire BB. All good things come to an end.

By his own admission he’s responsible. So you want him to be responsible?

 

[ashley]

Let's get back on topic of the pre game against Cincy.

 

[crawhammer]

I'm pretty sure that's the antithesis of what she was hoping for.

 

[Real fan 02]

I don't see the evidence for what you're saying. I understand Mac and KB but not "everyone" else.

You have been seeing the evidence for 14 weeks like the rest of us. Hunter Henry spoke out to SI about the offense, David Andrews spoke about the offense, Trent brown gave hesitancy about the offense when he was asked about a position switch, Myers spoke about the offense, however as I stated don't have to take my word for it there is 14 weeks of evidence.

 

[Toofy]

TBH, I am ready for the team to move away from Bill . Nothing he has done the last two seasons has inspired confidence

Everywhere's a free agent destination, if you have the money to throw around.

Not the elite . They have options . If Beckham has us and the dolphins he would go to dolphins for same money.

We will end up overpaying the agholors and Jonnu smiths because the elite don't want to come here.

 

[Real fan 02]

Maybe none.

BB does not want to admit that Mac is bust.

Will he admit Patricia isn't a real OC or Mac is a bust? Wich will come first?

 

[dtbrks]

Not sure I can get emotional involved for this game after the last one.

 

[BadMoFo]

Not sure I can get emotional involved for this game after the last one.

Last game was pretty depressing. If we lost any other way, it would've been easier to stomach.

 

[ashley]

TBH, I am ready for the team to move away from Bill . Nothing he has done the last two seasons has inspired confidence

Playoffs with a rookie qb last year, getting us to 7-7 and we should be 9-5 but ok, it's up to you but if you let the greatest coach of all time leave or fire him, you'll be bringing in most likely a failure(Denver, Houston, Chicago and the other 50 coaches that coached in the AFC east and got fired since BB has been here) and you'll be begging for him to come back, but ok. Now back to the game this week against Cincy.