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Re: Players turning on Mangini, Vilma injured? (merged)

They had more than one 4th. I think they swapped the other one for that WR guy Moss.

I could not believe that someone missed that.
 
Re: Jets: Vilma gone for season with knee?

A perfect excuse for going with another player more suited for the 3-4. I've read Wilmaah isn't very good at ILB in the 3-4. So now the big name lb can be replaced without much questioning from the media,and fans,fo etc.
 
injuries are part of the game, at least now Mangini will have one reason for loosing... not that it means all that much, Karma is a byatch.
 
Re: Jets players starting to turn on Mangini?

I agree with your point that 3-4 and 4-3 can either be 1-gap or 2-gap, but sometimes the Pats shoot the gaps playing 1-gap. I don't know about the Jets, but they could whichever they wanted to.

Unless they don't. There is no law that they have to 2-gap. They can do it anyway they want.
I'm not saying the Pats NEVER 1-gap, they did that a lot in the Super Bowl against Philadelphia. But at their base, their basic philosophy is to 2-gap probably 90% of the time.

So do the Jets. And Vilma hasn't fit. That is Mangini's fault. You don't change your whole beliefs for him so either teach him or trade him. Mangini hasn't done so.

J D Sal
 
Re: Jets players starting to turn on Mangini?

I was thinking more along these lines (apologies to M. Python):

Media: Bring out your injured!
[clang]
Bring out your injured!
[clang]
Manweenie: Here's one.
Vilma: I'm not injured!
Media: What?
Manweenie: Nothing -- just report him as injured.
Vilma: I'm not injured!
Media: Here -- he says he's not injured!
Manweenie: Yes, he is.
Vilma: I'm not!
Media: He isn't.
Manweenie: Well, he will be soon, he's very ill.
Vilma: I'm getting better!
Manweenie: No, you're not -- you're knee will be toast in a moment.
Media: Oh, I can't report on him like that -- it's against regulations.
Vilma: I don't want to go on the injured list!
Manweenie: Oh, don't be such a baby.
Media: I can't report him...
Vilma: I feel fine!
Manweenie: Oh, do us a favor...
Media: I can't.
Vilma: I think I'll go for a walk.
Manweenie: You're not fooling anyone y'know. Look, isn't there
something you can do?
Vilma: I feel happy... I feel happy.
[wham to the knees with a shovel]
Manweenie: Ah, thanks very much.

Excellent re-enactment, Bish. And practically verbatim, to boot.
 
Re: Jets players starting to turn on Mangini?

Now that Mangini has to deal with a DIFFERENT situation (different players, blah blah) he doesn't know the answers.

If that's true, do the Jets jettison him or some of their one-gap players (who are some of their best players)?

I think the crisis of confidence would dictate letting go of the guy who can't handle running the one-gap system and utilizing what they worked so hard to build.
 
Re: Jets players starting to turn on Mangini?

Yet again you blather ignorance about football.
BB would give a 2 pick for Vilma who'd be a star here. You might reflect upon how well BB did with his 2nd and 4th picks this season. Not that the perfidious Jets would ever trade to the Pats.

Yep, complete ignorance, I probably just basically typed a rumored report.
 
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