PFT: Emerging rumors of BB and SP to Giants

[vyrago]

Foolish rumor in my book. A coach dreams of having a QB like Brady. There is no way he is leaving. Like GJAJ15 stated earlier, I can see him retiring at some point and becoming a consultant to the team if that's what he wants to do. I just don't see him leaving the Patriots for the Giants or any other team any time soon.

But here we are on page 4 of this thread reading panty-bunched panickers hyperventilating about a rumor that was probably designed to produce just this effect. O Mr. Pavlov, your experiment is working.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

If we're talking about nonsense like this when we have as good a chance as any AFC team of getting to Miami, just imagine what we would be talking about if we were out of the Playoffs and had been playing out the string over the last few weeks.

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

But here we are on page 4 of this thread reading panty-bunched panickers hyperventilating about a rumor that was probably designed to produce just this effect. O Mr. Pavlov, your experiment is working.

Pavlov experimented with bunched panties? Some days I wish I hadn't slept in class.

 

[dtbrks]

Well, I also suspect this rumor to be false, but BB isn't going to stay with the patriots forever, as much as we would all love that.

Sooner or later, he will move on or retire.

 

[Jacky Roberts]

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Even Florio is skeptical.

If you want clear proof that Belichick isn't going anywhere, look no further than the Deion Branch trade. If he had designs on going, he would have signed Deion and "went for it" this year. Instead he's secured the Pats future for years to come with the extra picks. I dont even think he's a free agent and there's no way he'd leave something like what he's got going on.

 

[Jacky Roberts]

PFT is an excellent site. A very fun read day in and day out. You have to take it with a grain of salt though. I've read some wild rumors on that site that never came close to becoming reality. He's wrong a lot, but on the whole Florio does a terrific job.

The source of the PFT rumor was a story in yesterday's New York Post who is famous for "Throwing stuff against the wall" at this time of the year. Pay no attention to it, it ain't happening.

 

[LloydBraun]

Hey, Weis won't be the coach there, either. Why would he leave ND to coach that group of clowns?

Each year there are Pioli runmors, this year is no different. He likes it in NE, they have a chance with the young core (Brady, Seymour, Warren, Maroney,etc) and all of the picks to be contenders for at least the next 5 years. Hard to imagine him leaving.

 

[Patstopia]

Its New York, they expect everyone will jump to come there. Don't you know New York has the best players, coaches, blah,blah,blah...

 

[Water Boy]

So let me see if I understand this correctly, BB currently get to work with T Brady has a playoff ready team, a boatload of draft picks, a team full of character guys and an owner who gives him the freedom to do things his way.

SO he's gonna dump Berady to work with a Manning bro, a team full of aging and disfunctional players (did you hear them throwing each other and the coaches under the bus this year?), the tem s best player retiring, an uncertain ownership situation (elder Tisch and Mara passed away recently).


Sure right this makes all the sense in the world

Not to mention the overhaul he would have to make in the defense by dumping Strahan and converting Kiwanuka and Oseumenura to 3-4 OLBs

 

[cstjohn17]

Well, I also suspect this rumor to be false, but BB isn't going to stay with the patriots forever, as much as we would all love that.

Sooner or later, he will move on or retire.

Although speculative.. there could be a lot of coaching movement. Some names that have been mentioned.

Fired - Mora (Falcons) , Green (Cards), Crennell (Browns) ?, Shell (Raiders), Coughlin (Giants)

Retire,Contracts expire or Leave team - Cowher (Steelers), Fischer (Tenn), Parcells (Cowboys), Saban (Phins), Belichick (Pats), Gruden (Bucs)

11 moves, wow. That would have to be a record.

 

[PromisedLand]

So let me get this straight: profootballtalk, the National Enquirer of NFL news outlets, prints a rumor that they say even they don't believe? That is based on a rumor printed in the NY Post, another bastion of high journalistic standards? And half the people here are suddenly finding it plausible that BB, SP, and probably Tom Brady and the whole coaching staff are about to bolt ship?

PUHLEEZE.

 

[Drewwho]

It seems this year, more than any other season that BB has really come around to be more friendly, humanlike with his players and has not be the total sombie he once was. He is smiling more, and getting more emotional than I ever remember (even wearing that AFC East Championship hat was HUGE for him!). That being said, he is still the stern coach and leader and has all the respect in the world from his players. I just think he has found a way to be more personable and is enjoying it more. Maybe the death of his Dad and recent personal issues with his marriage have made him gain a newfound perspective. Whatever it is, I think this wiser updated version of BB realizes that it is OK to live in the moment and enjoy what you have. BB has a good gig in NE and the Krafts have been good to this man by trusting him and giving him control of this franchise. In turn BB has turned a doormat franchise into the most successful (recent), most respected franchise in professional sports!

I have always believed that he and Brady have a particularly close relationship although they keep it close to the vest. At times, you can see BB wants to just beam about Brady and go on and on about his leadership and poise, but he pulls back from too much praise as to keep with the 'team first' mentality that has made this team so special. Brady has never been shy about calling BB the greatest coach in NFL history and always spouts the utmost respect for BB and has complete trust in his coasch. I think when all is said and done and they are both in Canton making their induction speeches, we will hear the details of what each has meant to the other, but that comes after it is all done by again respecting the moment and the team. I SERIOUSLY doubt that BB will want to leave with what he has established with Tom Brady. BB and Brady could go down as the best coach and QB in the history of the NFL and they are just in the middle of this run -with Brady only 29 and seemingly having his best prime years ahead of him. Together, they have developed quite a reputation for themselves and are the coach/qb tandem that NO ONE wants to face in the post season. I just heard Ray Lewis on ESPN radio and he said straight out that he did not want to face the Pats with BB developing the game plan and having Brady (who he called the Best, NO DOUBT) executing that game plan! I know most teams feel this way since they are so proven.

Let's face it, BB was not even a .500 coach before Brady and before BB, Brady was a 4th stringer 6th rounder - quite a team they make together and I think they both know what they have. Why ruin that???? Eli Manning is going to be a nice player, but does he have 'IT'? Peyton doesn't even have it and I think he is the best pure passer ever! Tom Brady's come along once a generatation and teams spend lots of time, money and sleepless nights searching for the guy with 'IT' - BB has him, why walk away from 'IT'????

 

[DaBruinz]

Will just wait till PFW in Progress for the rumor monger to start up.. I know Scott Pioli's goal, is to be with Giants.. And with Bill Belichick's quote other woman in his life, it makes some sense. I will be surprised if Belichick is not coaching anybody else but the Pats next yr..

When did Scott Pioli say his goal was to be with the Giants? Also, why would he have signed a contract extension in 2005 if he wanted to go to the Giants?

This is so much speculative BS. Just as speculative as the PFT garbage.

 

[DaBruinz]

No , i know the whole Belichick rumor thing is spreading.. His so called woman in his life works for the Giants.. But I will be shocked surprised, dissapointed and disgusted if Belichick is not coaching the Pats and no one else next yr..

Actually, the woman in NJ worked for the Giants the same time BB did. None of the articles have said that she still works there.

 

[primetime]

Just for fun, is there any compensation that would allow the Krafts to make the change?

• 2 first rounders
• 2 first rounders and a starter?
• 3 first rounders

It also opens the door for Weis to coach at NE.

Every Giants first rounder from here until eternity. Heck, they got swindled once (a draft and Rivers for Eli Eli O).

If Belichick did leave, I think they'd have to look into bringing Charlie back.

 

[PATSNUTme]

I doubt seriously if that is true. Just read Partiots Reign or Education of a Coach and it seems even more far fetched.

But if it happens it will really hit the fan around here.

 

[Patters]

Maybe BB's agent is spreading the rumor to strengthen BB's hand in negotiating with Kraft. Isn't that the kind of thing agents do?

 

[PromisedLand]

Maybe BB's agent is spreading the rumor to strengthen BB's hand in negotiating with Kraft. Isn't that the kind of thing agents do?

Are you implying that some agents are not 100% honest, straightforward and above-board in their business affairs! I'm shocked and chagrined! I bet next you're going to say Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny are not real!

 

[DaBruinz]

Maybe BB's agent is spreading the rumor to strengthen BB's hand in negotiating with Kraft. Isn't that the kind of thing agents do?

Hmm... Unless you take into consideration that the last time BB was asked, he ended his press conference and left the podium. Also, if you take into consideration that the last extension BB got was announced a full year AFTER it was signed.

My thoughts are that BB is here through 2010.

 

[PonyExpress]

Which NFL coach has BB most disliked throughout his career? Carpetbagger Parcells. Which NFL coaches has BB most admired? Paul Brown and Don Shula. It wouldn't be surprising if BB stayed for another ten years, establishing himself as the anti-Parcells for the history books, in the model of his heroes.