Per Schefter: Tom Brady not ready to accept court ruling today. Mulling options with legal team.

[KDPPatsfan85]

 

[BelichickFan]

Howe re-emphasises his source from yesterday.

Once this is out of the courts he needs to do a 30 minute Prime Time interview and lay into the NFL. He REALLY needs to do that.

I get why he can't now, while it's in the courts.

 

[Froob]

Howe re-emphasises his source from yesterday.

Not sure what would be more enjoyable, another SB or Brady tearing down the establishment of the league through defamation lawsuit.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Not sure what would be more enjoyable, another SB or Brady tearing down the establishment of the league through defamation lawsuit.

Why not both?

 

[Froob]

Once this is out of the courts he needs to do a 30 minute Prime Time interview and lay into the NFL. He REALLY needs to do that.

I get why he can't now, while it's in the courts.

Everyone with a brain already knows Roger is a crook. We need some hard evidence from a court ordered discovery.

 

[upstater1]

Are you joking? The vultures started circling the moment he came out in the original press conference, where he didn't deny once and said he "didn't think he was a cheater".

He was passive as all hell, and while that may just be Tom being Tom, it did him no favors in the court of public opinion and undoubtably set the tone of this "scandal".

He could've spoken out again the moment after the appeal was decided upon by Goodell. Remember he had a speaking engagement and said he "didn't want to get into it at this time"?

That was pretty much all he's said on this entire ordeal besides a quick Facebook post or two after Berman's ruling.

He repeatedly denied having anything to do with ball deflation in that PC.

Repeatedly.

That press conference has now achieved mythological status all because people like Brunell and Sapp have at most 2 brain cells between them. People still say that Brady claimed that he can't tell the difference between a ball at 12.5 PSI and one at 10 PSI. Brady never said anything like that. Brunell claimed he said that. Brady said the exact opposite. He repeatedly stated that he likes balls at 12.5 PSI. In response to Borges question about why he couldn't feel the difference during the game, when Dqwell Jackson so easily felt it, well that was n entirely different question.

But for some reason America has allowed Brunell to define the terms of what Brady new.

It's bizarre and just goes to show how stupid ESPN and the media is.

 

[Froob]

He repeatedly denied having anything to do with ball deflation in that PC.

Repeatedly.

That press conference has now achieved mythological status all because people like Brunell and Sapp have at most 2 brain cells between them. People still say that Brady claimed that he can't tell the difference between a ball at 12.5 PSI and one at 10 PSI. Brady never said anything like that. Brunell claimed he said that. Brady said the exact opposite. He repeatedly stated that he likes balls at 12.5 PSI. In response to Borges question about why he couldn't feel the difference during the game, when Dqwell Jackson so easily felt it, well that was n entirely different question.

But for some reason America has allowed Brunell to define the terms of what Brady new.

It's bizarre and just goes to show how stupid ESPN and the media is.

Especially considering both Mike Adams and D'qwell Jackson have denied ever noticing underinflated balls. And why have we continued to ignore that the refs apparently didn't notice it either?

 

[sb1]

(Idea about scheduling a presser at 8:10 on Thursday)

Now that would be a great way to tweak the NFL's noses instead of the forfeit talk. I will LOL if they actually do it.

 

[Froob]

Now that would be a great way to tweak the NFL's noses instead of the forfeit talk. I will LOL if they actually do it.

Have him sit down with Bill Simmons for a special go into detail on how Goodell is destroying this league.

 

[Gronkowski123]

Have him sit down with Bill Simmons for a special go into detail on how Goodell is destroying this league.

on HBO..you can use bad language, that would be cool but tom's too much of a company man to do it.

has the jellyfish commented yet?

 

[AtomicDawg]

Have him sit down with Bill Simmons for a special go into detail on how Goodell is destroying this league.

Simmons just christened his new website "The Ringer". It'd be quite the story to get Tom as a "first get".

 

[Froob]

on HBO..you can use bad language, that would be cool but tom's too much of a company man to do it.

has the jellyfish commented yet?

I assume it'll go something like

"While I disagree with the courts ruling I think Roger did a fantastic job and is doing what he believes to be right. I hope he is commisoner for years to come. What a fantastic terrific man. Just a stand up great guy."

 

[Todd Bradley]

You did not say any of that. You said he's been silent and it has done nothing but backfire. On the day appeals court ruled against him.
How bad it backfired? If it has nothing to do with the suspension you must be talking about PR. Whining to the media is not going to help his cause. He has maintained his innocence and acted accordingly. Holding press conferences to state his innocence is a grandstand move and THAT is the type of move that backfires.
There is virtually not a person on the planet other than those who are simply reacting to a patriot hatred that actually believes tom Brady did anything wrong so please explain how his actions have "backfired".

How did it backfire? Are you purposely being dense?

When you're being railroaded, taking the polite approach never works. Sometimes when you come out strong, that truth comes to bite you in the ass if proven you lied. But clearly Brady isn't in the wrong and has never lied, considering he answered questioning under oath, so vehemently denying at the start would've made him look pretty good once the falsified Well's Report came out. He didn't come out strong, was passive and the narrative was set the minute that press conference ended.

If Brady comes out swinging and puts everyone in their place right at the start, than there's no question of guilt. And that would've been that, instead of nonsense during the Super Bowl where even people like Collinsworth clearly weren't satisfied with his passive approach and STILL wanted a definitive yes or no.

 

[Angelpats]

If there is one petition I'd sign is one that influences Tom to file a defamation suit and it would be wonderful if some of our forum lawyers who are retired or have free time to spare can lead this charge.

 

[Froob]

How did it backfire? Are you purposely being dense?

When you're being railroaded, taking the polite approach never works. Sometimes when you come out strong, that truth comes to bite you in the ass if proven you lied. But clearly Brady isn't in the wrong and has never lied, considering he answered questioning under oath, so vehemently denying at the start would've made him look pretty good once the falsified Well's Report came out. He didn't come out strong, was passive and the narrative was set the minute that press conference ended.

If Brady comes out swinging and puts everyone in their place right at the start, than there's no question of guilt. And that would've been that, instead of nonsense during the Super Bowl where even people like Collinsworth clearly weren't satisfied with his passive approach and STILL wanted a definitive yes or no.

Do you think it would have impacted the case tho? Those judges were badly misinformed, I don't think it mattered what Brady said.

 

[Todd Bradley]

Do you think it would have impacted the case tho? Those judges were badly misinformed, I don't think it mattered what Brady said.

It may not even have gotten to that point had he come out guns blazing.

We may be talking about a small fine and nothing more. We'll never know though, so it's a moot point.

 

[Ring 6]

How did it backfire? Are you purposely being dense?

When you're being railroaded, taking the polite approach never works. Sometimes when you come out strong, that truth comes to bite you in the ass if proven you lied. But clearly Brady isn't in the wrong and has never lied, considering he answered questioning under oath, so vehemently denying at the start would've made him look pretty good once the falsified Well's Report came out. He didn't come out strong, was passive and the narrative was set the minute that press conference ended.

If Brady comes out swinging and puts everyone in their place right at the start, than there's no question of guilt. And that would've been that, instead of nonsense during the Super Bowl where even people like Collinsworth clearly weren't satisfied with his passive approach and STILL wanted a definitive yes or no.

OK, so you think Goodell would have done nothing if Brady acted mad.
Gotcha. Good one.

And the whole world would have said the reports of 11 of 12 balls were wrong, and the Patriots are the most honestest team in all the land.

 

[Froob]

OK, so you think Goodell would have done nothing if Brady acted mad.
Gotcha. Good one.

And the whole world would have said the reports of 11 of 12 balls were wrong, and the Patriots are the most honestest team in all the land.

Especially because he didn't back down when the Saints fired back hard. It was Kraft's job to do something about it and he ****ied out.

 

[QuantumMechanic]

McCann on the defamation option:

Nevertheless, defamation lawsuit is unlikely. As a public figure, Brady face a higher legal bar in a defamation lawsuit than would an ordinary person. He would need to show “actual malice,” meaning the league intentionally or knowingly made untrue and damaging statements about him. This is often a high bar. The NFL would also argue, as it argued in Jonathan Vilma’s defamation lawsuit against Goodell over Bountygate, that a defamation lawsuit is “preempted” by the CBA’s language expressing that player-league disputes must be resolved through internal league procedures and that players thus cannot obtain alternative relief through courts. A federal judge agreed with the NFL about preemption in the Vilma case and it’s possible the same result could occur for Brady.

I'd still like to see McNally and Jastremski move forward.

 

[reflexblue]

McCann on the defamation option:



I'd still like to see McNally and Jastremski move forward.

Well someone in the nfl front office leaked the false inflation numbers to Mortenson. That was intentional and detrimental. If this went to trial i would thin that Mort would be called to testify who told him, if its upper managment he'd win, goodell and the front office would go down in flames.