Penalties being considered for the Pats - UPDATED 1/1/2020

[Chris Stevenson]

I find it very difficult to believe that a producer who was doing this for 18 years with Kraft Sports would not know not to shoot at the sideline....

Correct.

The only problem is, if you are shooting a "day in the life" from BEHIND the sideline, it's pretty obvious this is not facing the sideline.

I didn't know about the part that the filming was from behind Cincy's sideline. You're not going to see much especially without any zooming in, which also is not on the tape.

Cincy seems to be honing on what a young kid said as opposed to the intent. Trying to appease Cincy is not cheating.

Lastly, this comes off more like outright anger and jealousy by the Bungles, probably perplexed why a team would be doing in-season documentary work like this.

I may be wrong here, as I am not saying I've looked at all NFL teams' sites, but it's unlikely NFL teams put the amount of money and time into something as regularly occurring like Pats All Access.

Look at the way its produced. It's really quite good considering the budget not being huge. BUt, most teams have like ZERO budgets. Throw in all the docs on NFLN of late, BB doing the 100 Greatest show, the latest Saban/BB thing on HBO, and it might come off as really arrogant, when it's nothing more than Kraft trying to give the fans and inside look to go along for the ride.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Not sure if I'm pissed off at him of feel bad for the guy.

 

[Chris Stevenson]

Yeah but the producer can tell the camera guy not to shoot the sideline...

No offense, but a distant shot from behind is not going to be much different than what you would see from a distance from the 22 tape.

The 22 tape is actually available to fans. You can buy it.

The average fan may not even knows these facts, and again, it's about intent. It's no different than Framegate I when there as clearly no intent from BB. An FU after Mangini tried to get 2 cameramen in January of 2007 in Foxborough in the playoff game. I think this is why BB wanted Estrella on the sideline, showing Mangini the FU, but it's not cheating. Goodell lied about what it was and Kraft just took it.

Also, I didn't know this, and somehow missed it, but the Ravens used two headsets on D recently and were fined 200K for it. Not sure how I missed that other than the media not caring about doing fair reporting.

 

[Hammer of Thor]

Yeah but the producer can tell the camera guy not to shoot the sideline...

Yeah, the statement reads like the producer had no idea it wasn’t allowed - he was intimately involved and explicitly said what they were trying to capture, which was not allowed. How can he not know that having worked for this team through Spygate?

 

[Chris Stevenson]

Man, I am so hoping that the league gets pissed at (and punishes) the Bungles, for creating their own narrative by editing and releasing this film, without permission, to damage the Pats and the NFLs precious shield.

Because the Bengals are clearly using the Pats past framings to push this crapola.

I said hope. I know it's highly unlikely.

This is why it is vital Kraft not back down. Defend yourself once and for all.

 

[Joker]

This is why it is vital Kraft not back down. Defend yourself once and for all.

you got a better chance of seeing God...it's easier to get into heaven than the 32 Billionaires Boys Club

 

[Chris Stevenson]

Yeah, the statement reads like the producer had no idea it wasn’t allowed - he was intimately involved and explicitly said what they were trying to capture, which was not allowed. How can he not know that having worked for this team through Spygate?

1. He's not part of the team.
2. He was producing B roll film from BEHIND the sidelines. He wasn't facing them. The rules apply to team personnel.

I'd like to see what was on the Skins game tape where they did the a day in the life of Jimmy Dee and the video crew for the 22 tape.

There simply HAD to have been sideline stuff captured there, because it shows up on that 22 tape.

Even by accident, if a play runs to the sideline, the player goes out of bounds, hand signals are going to start coming right then and there.

No offense, but if you start believing Goodell or any of the people who don't have a clue about this, you're just playing into the paranoia.

 

[cmasspatsfan]

As he should. If the roles were reversed, wouldn't you expect the Pats to be upset?

Roles have been reversed and the Pat's just asks the offending team to stop, they dont go running to daddy Goodell like these other idiots.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Yeah, the statement reads like the producer had no idea it wasn’t allowed - he was intimately involved and explicitly said what they were trying to capture, which was not allowed. How can he not know that having worked for this team through Spygate?

I reread the statement and he says he has worked in video producing for 18 years...but that's not necessarily all with Kraft Sports.

 

[Chris Stevenson]

Roles have been reversed and the Pat's just asks the offending team to stop, they dont go running to daddy Goodell like these other idiots.

Exactly. Like, we never heard about the Pats asking the NFL to shut down a 2nd cameraman for the Jets in January 2007 in Foxborough. They just pointed it out and didn't go running to Goodell over it.

Cincy's behavior in this is repulsive. This proves what many have said...Goodell openly accepts attempts at framejobs, if he can do it.

Cincy also broke a rule. Team personnel filmed from the press box.

You can't do that. It's no different than the Browns GM a few years back texting from the press box.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

This is why it is vital Kraft not back down. Defend yourself once and for all.

When has Kraft ever defended this organization?

 

[reflexblue]

thinking about leaving and coming back as Buckaroo Banzai....

I tried to leave and come back as Electric Snake or Lumpy Gravy but Ian talked me out of it.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Agree.

I don't like the way this is trending. Yesterday would have been a perfect opportunity for Ginger Goofball to take a nothing-to-see-here position.

But noooooo. He needs to make this, "A thing".

Maybe the league wanted to wait to announce the punishment just so the Bengals get their tape out there and make us look bad...

 

[NE_Zealot]

Roles have been reversed and the Pat's just asks the offending team to stop, they dont go running to daddy Goodell like these other idiots.

Was that the time the Jets were found to be filming at Gilette in ‘06?

 

[NEPats1]

Florio just said on NBC he heard the investigation is still in early stages and not near the end as others have reported

LOL

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Florio just said on NBC he heard the investigation is still in early stages and not near the end as others have reported

LOL

They will probably interview the producer and Belichick...they are not going to rely exclusively on the video

 

[RobertWeathers]

Maybe the league wanted to wait to announce the punishment just so the Bengals get their tape out there and make us look bad...

Friggan joke

 

[aluminum seats]

They know that patriots hatred drives ratings, so they will milk it for as long as they can.

 

[Silver Blue&Red]

When has Kraft ever defended this organization?

His biggest concern is giving Pats fans the impression he cares just enough to build his fortune.
He will never give up his membership in the NFLs "Friars" club.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

And it just might bite him in the *** one day.

Yeah right

 

[Palm Beach Pats Fan]

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