Pats workout safety Su'a Cravens

[borg]

I would add,

A second round pick who doesn't make it because he is far outplayed by later-drafted (or even undrafted), hungrier players at the same position...

indicates an organization that can recognize and develop under-drafted talent, fairly assess their higher value and greater potential, and then cut bait on the higher-paid and under-performing 2nd round pick, without giving a rats ass about what it "looks like" to the armchair experts.

Put as much lipstick on it as you want but a 2nd round bust is a waste of a premium team building asset, bonus money, and cap space. It shortens the bench, impacts other roster decisions, gets people fired. Teams can overcome these failures but it doesn’t change what they are.

 

[catent]

Su'a Cravens and how it fell apart in Washington

In-depth article on Cravens' experience with Washington.
"General weirdness" is pretty unfair. "Lingering post-concussion symptoms" is much more accurate.
This is a person whose personality dramatically shifted after a bad concussion - issues with anxiety and paranoia that he recognized, but could not overcome. A lack of clear communication and understanding between the player and the team on whether he was coming back from a 30-day leave due to the post-concussion diagnosis. As a hybrid safety/LB, he was a smaller player filling a larger-player's role, and got pretty beat up - concussion, elbow, knee.
You listen to some of the stories of the anguish some of these players face from rehab, and the challenge of overcoming the personality symptoms from concussions, and there are definitely similarities.
Physically talented player, apparently dealing with significant family issues while suffering from mood changes from the brain damage.
Summarizing this story as "general weirdness" in a tweet is pretty catty.

This stuff is tough to read about. Happens way too often to be comfortable with it, or to simply label it an acceptable inherent risk of the game.

 

[Deus Irae]

Add Cravens info to the Rolodex, just in case.. not sure if every team does this, but the Pats do it throughout the season always trying to build the roster, always trying to make it better...

Cravens a second round pick, oh the horrors!! I was led to believe that the Patriots were the only team who could not evaluate 2nd round D-Backs...

A second round pick who doesn't make it is a second round pick who doesn't make it. The draft is a crap shoot and no one is perfect.

I hope you both realize the ridiculousness of your posts.

 

[Palm Beach Pats Fan]

Put as much lipstick on it as you want but a 2nd round bust is a waste of a premium team building asset, bonus money, and cap space. It shortens the bench, impacts other roster decisions, gets people fired. Teams can overcome these failures but it doesn’t change what they are.

5th/6th/7th /UDFA players who excel and beat out lazier higher-drafted players are fantastic team-building assets who show everyone the importance of hard work. It lengthens the bench, makes for a solid top-to-bottom rosters, and it actually wins championships.

If a team has a stellar collection of cornerbacks, for example, does it matter where they were drafted? EFF no.

You make educated guesses on high picks and sometimes they don't work out, but sometimes it's mostly due to hungrier and yes BETTER players running them out of town. When that happens, you have a Patriots way, rather than a Jets way.

 

[IllegalContact]

Littered? No but through Bill’s tenure he seems to be looking for someone who can play that role. He’s tried different safety/LB hybrids from Don Davis, the Tank Johnson signing, Jordan Richards, KGH and now potential interest in Cravens.

now that's a list for the ages

 

[Deus Irae]

Su’a Cravens rips Redskins, says he understands why Trent Williams is holding out

 

[Love The Drake]

Id say not worth the baggage.
However In BB We trust

 

[DarrylS]

I would add,

A second round pick who doesn't make it because he is far outplayed by later-drafted (or even undrafted), hungrier players at the same position...

indicates an organization that can recognize and develop under-drafted talent, fairly assess their higher value and greater potential, and then cut bait on the higher-paid and under-performing 2nd round pick, without giving a rats ass about what it "looks like" to the armchair experts.

Criticism by the media and sports talking heads happen all the time.. BB's response, "It is what it is" or we are focusing on Pittsburgh.

They draft who they think best fits this system and need and block out the noise..

With 6 SB's one might reasonably deduce it works pretty good.. no every draft pick works out, but somehow they build extremely strong teams that are consistently very, very competitive.. it is about team building, not collecting talent.

 

[moosekill]

Because unlike the draft experts on this board, no team hits on every pick. The Patriots are time and again rated as one of the top drafting teams in the league, especially when you throw in the fact they have had multiple picks taken away and always draft near or at the bottom of the draft.

 

[jah]

This stuff is tough to read about. Happens way too often to be comfortable with it, or to simply label it an acceptable inherent risk of the game.

I'm surprised either of 2 specific posters didn't swoop in to say "they're adults who make their own decisions" like they usually do.

 

[TinhWoodhead]

name sounds like a restaurant dish

 

[PatsFan2]

name sounds like a restaurant dish

Perfect name for a glutton.

 

[TinhWoodhead]

Perfect name for a glutton.

suprised the ratbirds didnt sign Craven

 

[Galeb]

Phonetically speaking, a horrible name for a player in Boston.