Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by everlong, Mar 19, 2020.
Too early to say but as of right now I'd say 8-8 or 9-7.
There’s no worse position in the NFL than no mans land at like 6-10, 7-9, 8-8. This roster doesn’t look like they can do anything in the playoffs even if they were to make it. I had rather go 2-14 and get Lawrence than be stuck in no mans land and picking 8-14 in the draft. Have one huge down year, get rewarded with a franchise QB that could be here for 15 years.
Even with Brady we somehow lost to the Dolphins every freaking year. Now add a loss or two to the Bills. We still beat the Jets of course. This will be a painful transition year. 10 wins.
I don't see why we can't squeeze at least 10 wins.
Just for laughs, I checked a 2021 Walter Camp mock draft. I don't project a high win total this year, and not just because Brady left. If we only win 6-7 games and finish up in the high teens for a pick, the only team I could see as QB competition was Jacksonville. Other QB needy teams, Indy, PIT, NO, CHI, will have better records than the Pats. Now Jacksonville does look like the clubhouse winner on this one but Jacksonville is STUPID and might be willing to trade the pick. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
Right now? 6-10. Talk to me after the draft, though.
See what i bolded above.
Yeah, I think Brady figured that out. Probably thought it would actually be "hard to win 9--10 games WITH" him. Decided he'd rather cash a couple of big checks working for a friendlier coach and still be able to blame much of any fall off in his production on being in a new environment.
Win Win for him. A no-brainer once you think about it. Retiring would also have been a no-brainer but (a) he still wants to play and (b) $30 a year is real money, especially when he and his wife have probably lost a lot more than that in the Market over the last couple of weeks.
Ne careful...a lot of posters here will be very angry and disagree with the actual facts.
I think people are under-estimating how big the gap can be between even the 2019 version of Tom Brady and the typical scrub tier QB the Patriots might be stuck with.
People like to point to Jimmy G and that one year Cassel had where the team went 11-5 as evidence the team can easily be decent post-Brady, but the new guy won't be inheriting a 16-0 roster, and this is the same team that also burned picks on Rohan Davey, Ryan Mallett and Kevin O'Connell.
If Jarrett Stidham isn't a sueprhero out of nowhere, this team is probably facing an up hill battle to .500.
edit: Or put another way, the quality backups that let Belichick win those games for the Pats without Brady aren't on the team anymore, and Stidham is a complete enigma as an NFL starter.
Of course I'd love it if Stidham is Brady 2.0, or hell even Steve Young 2.0.
The Pats are like my portfolio right now, they have a potential to go boom or bust. I say stay the course. No need to panic and waste draft capital. We will be ok. BB needed to retool the team, Tom despite his brilliance had tuned BB out for the past two years and it was spreading. Clear out all those who have listened to all the motivational stuff and can't relate anymore and get fresh blood in, leaders from various teams. That is how you rebuild. This is going to be like 2010.
This is a rebuild year. Keep expectations low. I'd say .500 or worse is realistic. If Stidham develops and we have a SOLID draft this year we might contend for the playoffs next year.
Our drafts have been bad lately which showed in our decline last year. The draft is KEY though. We need to net at least 3 solid new contributors with our picks. And maybe our QB of the future. I want to bring in someone to compete with Stidham as I'm not confident that he is there yet or that he will ever be 'the guy'.
I would set the over/under at 9 wins at this point.
How do ya analyze that one at this point?
Um educated guess?
Schedule tougher, defense not as good ... Offense becomes a mystery, .But the structure is in place to win. Coaches etc.
So, you're barring trades for draft picks before we might pick?
Figures don't lie but liars do figure
depends how good Jared Stidham is. in 2016 I remember people looking at 1-3 as a realistic option with brady suspended. Instead we went 3-1 and people saw that Jimmy G was a solid NFL quarterback and could lead the team to wins.
Does Stidham fit in the system the same?
5-11 at best, least talented offense in the NFL.
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