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6 SB championships.

All Brady. 100%

Maybe you don't remember but Bill saddled the goat with Doug Gabriel and Reche Caldwell during their dynasty prime and cost them a Superbowl.
 
All Brady. 100%

Maybe you don't remember but Bill saddled the goat with Doug Gabriel and Reche Caldwell during their dynasty prime and cost them a Superbowl.
6 SB Championships.
 
7 for Brady.
Brady isnt a coach, GM, and the person who set the structure of the entire organization.

He’s the GOAT QB and I respect the hell out that though.
 
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All Brady. 100%

Maybe you don't remember but Bill saddled the goat with Doug Gabriel and Reche Caldwell during their dynasty prime and cost them a Superbowl.
This ^ is dumb.

Brady also owes a bunch of his rings to his defenses and special teams... it's a team game.
 
No.

All Brady.

You've seen in the last 3 years what a good defense and a **** qb gets you.

No playoffs.
The defense is for another debate as they weren't good either. Their Daddy is coming home this week.
 
The defense is for another debate as they weren't good either. Their Daddy is coming home this week.

You can't win without a good defense. So I recognize that.

But I don't understand why everyone is jumping through all these walls to make sure we don't forget how important Bill was.

The only thing I care about is how Bill is doing now.

This is a man who knew the offense was a real issue and addressed it by drafting two kickers and like 4 guards.

You can't win when your GM isn't letting you in position to do so in April.

If this was literally any other team no one would fight this hard to protect the gm/coach.
 
You can't win without a good defense. So I recognize that.

But I don't understand why everyone is jumping through all these walls to make sure we don't forget how important Bill was.

The only thing I care about is how Bill is doing now.

This is a man who knew the offense was a real issue and addressed it by drafting two kickers and like 4 guards.

You can't win when your GM isn't letting you in position to do so in April.

If this was literally any other team no one would fight this hard to protect the gm/coach.
What he did this off-season was malpractice.

The OL was horrible last season, so he signed Riley Reiff who should retire and the Vandalorian and drafted G's/C late.

The WR's have been horrible for years so he signs an injury prone WR who can't separate with no knees and extends Parker for no reason.

The offense needs chunk plays so he drafts a kicker.

His LB's can't defend the middle of the field in space so he extends Bentley and drafts Marte Mapu (MLB in college) to play S....which they didn't need.
 
What he did this off-season was malpractice.

The OL was horrible last season, so he signed Riley Reiff who should retire and the Vandalorian and drafted G's/C late.

The WR's have been horrible for years so he signs an injury prone WR who can't separate with no knees and extends Parker for no reason.

The offense needs chunk plays so he drafts a kicker.

His LB's can't defend the middle of the field in space so he extends Bentley and drafts Marte Mapu (MLB in college) to play S....which they didn't need.
We got it backwards. Bill is really playing checkers while the rest of the league is playing chess.
 
This ^ is dumb.

Brady also owes a bunch of his rings to his defenses and special teams... it's a team game.
But you've been saying that if we just got a better QB it would fix the leagues worst offensive line, one of the most unproductive running games, receivers who get the least seperation in the league, and a special teams that is last in DVOA.

So I think we just got to give Brady all the credit if the QB just can fix a team that much
 
You can't win without a good defense. So I recognize that.

But I don't understand why everyone is jumping through all these walls to make sure we don't forget how important Bill was.

The only thing I care about is how Bill is doing now.

This is a man who knew the offense was a real issue and addressed it by drafting two kickers and like 4 guards.

You can't win when your GM isn't letting you in position to do so in April.

If this was literally any other team no one would fight this hard to protect the gm/coach.
If it was literally anyone other than the most successful HC/GM that ever lived, people would be more critical of the lean years. Somehow you say that like it’s a surprise
 
If it was literally anyone other than the most successful HC/GM that ever lived, people would be more critical of the lean years. Somehow you say that like it’s a surprise
It's run it's course. Thanks for the good times but he hasnt shown the ability to win without Brady in New England so it really shouldn't be a surprise.

Now if he wants to give up his gm duties? Then he can stay.

It doesn't feel like you're acknowledging the diminishing returns. It's getting worse. Not better.
 
It’s in the teams favor because they lock him up if they want to and can cut him any time
If the players turns out bad it’s irrelevant.
If the player turns out good they have him for 2 more years locked up for cheap $.
Literally the only difference is that they switched it from "They just need to send a form if they want to keep him for next year" to "They just need to send a form if they want to get rid of him." The dollars involved will be exactly the same either way.
 
Someone has probably already said this but WTF was Malik doing on that field on Sunday? Nothing against the kid but his one QB snap was a disaster which cost us multiple yards. BoB and BB must be losing the plot if that one play was their masterplan to try and be different. Should have had Grier on the bench.
broken play
 
But you've been saying that if we just got a better QB it would fix the leagues worst offensive line, one of the most unproductive running games, receivers who get the least seperation in the league, and a special teams that is last in DVOA.

So I think we just got to give Brady all the credit if the QB just can fix a team that much

His opinion changes depending on what he is arguing. When it comes to Brady the the team around him is what elevated him to devalue what Brady did

When it comes to today, the roster actually perfect and is just in need of a good QB to elevate everyone around them!
 
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