PATRIOTS NEWS Patriots Training Camp 8-7-2023

[TheBeers]

Duplicate post, n ****

 

[rochrist]

That ****ing contract is a ****ing disgrace to the entire human ****ing race.

Yes, they definitely should have just let him walk for nothing. You do know that contract will be pocket change in two years, right?

 

[captain stone]

And that's why Bill was never, ever going to cut him.

Reminds me of some in Lincoln's cabinet wanting him to relieve Grant... His response: I can't afford to lose him; he fights.

We can't afford to lose Jackie; he covers. Heck, I think we're still short one starting-caliber Outside CB and/or FS.

 

[Kasmir]

I'll say.. a guy that we definitely need to stash on the practice squad is Cunningham.. boy this guy intrigues me.. a QB with RB and WR skills.

McSorley can go to the practice squad by Cunningham will need to be on the 53 because of his upside. QB3, maybe even QB2 as eventual upside on gameday -- he adds more value on gameday than Zappe who will only hold a clipboard if Mac is healthy...

 

[PatsFan2]

way too early for that kind of assessment for ANY of the "late" (after 4) round picks. Even "Pop" isn't a sure thing (although he's probably the next best thing)

Boutte doesn't seem lost for a Rookie even Pop Douglas who's running with the ones.

 

[Kasmir]

Reminds me of some in Lincoln's cabinet wanting him to relieve Grant... His response: I can't afford to lose him; he fights.

Maybe Bill should get some of his other DB's to pack pistols too:

“So Grant gets drunk, does he?” queried Lincoln, addressing himself to one of the particularly active detractors of the soldier.

“Yes, he does, and I can prove it,” was the reply.

“Well,” returned Lincoln, with the faintest suspicion of a twinkle in his eye—"you needn’t waste your time getting proof; you just find out, to oblige me, what brand of whiskey Grant drinks, because I want to send a barrel of it to each one of my generals.”

 

[Ross12]

At this stage it feels like Douglas is a near-lock and Boutte is also coming for someone’s job. The question is whose. The only veteran WRs who are roster locks are Smith-Schuster and Parker. I could see Bourne traded for a mid round pick and $6M in cap savings, but Thornton was also a 2nd rounder a year ago and might fetch a decent pick in return too. At the same time, Thornton has a unique skillset and is under team control for 2 more years for cheap whereas Bourne is a free agent after this year. Boutte and Bourne are much more similar players to one another as well. Makes me think Bourne would likely be the odd man out.

Really, I would just rather they keep 6. They’ve been missing the dart board entirely at WR in the draft for quite a while now. If they suddenly find themselves with a couple gems, it might be worth carrying one extra. Besides, Parker has an injury history and it’s likely he will miss time at some point anyway.

 

[A Defiant Goose]

At this stage it feels like Douglas is a near-lock and Boutte is also coming for someone’s job. The question is whose. The only veteran WRs who are roster locks are Smith-Schuster and Parker. I could see Bourne traded for a mid round pick and $6M in cap savings, but Thornton was also a 2nd rounder a year ago and might fetch a decent pick in return too. At the same time, Thornton has a unique skillset and is under team control for 2 more years for cheap whereas Bourne is a free agent after this year. Boutte and Bourne are much more similar players to one another as well. Makes me think Bourne would likely be the odd man out.

Really, I would just rather they keep 6. They’ve been missing the dart board entirely at WR in the draft for quite a while now. If they suddenly find themselves with a couple gems, it might be worth carrying one extra. Besides, Parker has an injury history and it’s likely he will miss time at some point anyway.

If I ran the Pats I'd go with 6 WRs too

 

[Family]

It’s entirely possible, but I wouldn’t end the experiment for one report. Sow is going to be a project. It’s worth a redshirt season to see if he can be a tackle. If not, we’ll need competition for guard spots next year.

It's not just one report. I've read a few places he's big and slow.

I love BB, and believe he's still a top coach, but as people age they develop weaknesses. Last year's fiasco with Patricia/Judge has left most of us with "WTF was he thinking." Pretty much every NFL person who commented thought it was an insane move, but ok it was BB. I'm just hoping this isn't another example of Bill thinking, "a tackle costs 20 million? I'll just develop a 4th round tackle because I'm smarter than everyone."

We need a guard now. I know the starters are hurt, but it's almost red alert with them for depth.

If Sow can play guard, we need one today. If he can't how will he play tackle?

 

[Real fan 02]

McSorley can go to the practice squad by Cunningham will need to be on the 53 because of his upside. QB3, maybe even QB2 as eventual upside on gameday -- he adds more value on gameday than Zappe who will only hold a clipboard if Mac is healthy...

Absolutely agree, BB seems to be warming up to the modern NFL. Need a QB like Cunningham on this roster. Of course Mac's the guy, but we need to keep Cunningham around and develop him. It's all about mobility at the QB position.

 

[turkeyneck]

I'm just hoping this isn't another example of Bill thinking, "a tackle costs 20 million? I'll just develop a 4th round tackle because I'm smarter than everyone."

I don't know if that's so but it might be an outgrowth of Scar repeatedly doing just that - taking low or undrafted raw material and coaching them into remarkable success. Someone said the mark of a true artist is to do what he does so well he makes it look easy so that the observer thinks "I can do that". Maybe Bill fell into that trap from watching Scar.

 

[Ian]

 

[Ian]

 

[40yrpatsfan]

Absolutely agree, BB seems to be warming up to the modern NFL. Need a QB like Cunningham on this roster. Of course Mac's the guy, but we need to keep Cunningham around and develop him. It's all about mobility at the QB position.

It's not "all about mobility", but it's certainly nice to have a Wildcat option in the bag. Cunningham could play WR one play and then on the next play, with no substitutions, he lines up at QB with Mac split out. That's more dangerous than having a RB take that snap.

 

[BUSTAMOVE]

And that's why Bill was never, ever going to cut him.

Reminds me of some in Lincoln's cabinet wanting him to relieve Grant... His response: I can't afford to lose him; he fights.

We can't afford to lose Jackie; he covers. Heck, I think we're still short one starting-caliber Outside CB and/or FS.

That answers my previous post of why BB looks the other way regarding JJ

 

[captain stone]

McSorley can go to the practice squad by Cunningham will need to be on the 53 because of his upside. QB3, maybe even QB2 as eventual upside on gameday -- he adds more value on gameday than Zappe who will only hold a clipboard if Mac is healthy...

There'll be a LOT of players hitting the street on Cut-Down Day... I really doubt that Cunningham would be claimed at that time; whichever team is awarded him via waivers would have to almost start over with him, and I don't know if they would be willing to do that while he's on a 53-man roster...

 

[Nunchucks]

Slot Douglas as a 3rd down back. Problem solved

 

[PatsFan2]

Do that against the Eagles - Bills - Jets and Dolphins Centers Barmore Patriots Centers don't really count.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Slot Douglas as a 3rd down back. Problem solved

Has to pick up the blitz. As a 3rd down back, problem created.

 

[captain stone]

At this stage it feels like Douglas is a near-lock and Boutte is also coming for someone’s job. The question is whose. The only veteran WRs who are roster locks are Smith-Schuster and Parker. I could see Bourne traded for a mid round pick and $6M in cap savings, but Thornton was also a 2nd rounder a year ago and might fetch a decent pick in return too. At the same time, Thornton has a unique skillset and is under team control for 2 more years for cheap whereas Bourne is a free agent after this year. Boutte and Bourne are much more similar players to one another as well. Makes me think Bourne would likely be the odd man out.

Really, I would just rather they keep 6. They’ve been missing the dart board entirely at WR in the draft for quite a while now. If they suddenly find themselves with a couple gems, it might be worth carrying one extra. Besides, Parker has an injury history and it’s likely he will miss time at some point anyway.

Agreed, but DawgHouse Bourne has to STOP dropping at least one pass every. single. day... or he's gonna make Bill's decision a lot easier.