Patriots Trade For Rams WR Greg Salas

[BBass]

Looks like Hernandez on that play. Big guy.

Maybe the slot is starting to evolve into a receiver who is between a Gronk or Ballard sized guy and the Branch/Gaffney mold.

I like this idea.

I think BB looks for upside and value not really a specific mold. JM has a history of seeing talent in WR's Lloyd is a great example. I don't really see Salas as a slot receiver as much as being said I think he just as the ability to go over the middle which is a value that we look for in WR.

 

[patsfan13]

Well if J McD knows that the guy has the football IQ to play in the system that is very good, the biggest problem with the Pats and WR's is finding guys who can think along with Brady.


Even with the ramp up to the first regular season game looks like a wild ride for the roster this week and next.

Perhaps Kraft told BB that he needed to keep the folds at patsfans entertained this week.

 

[goheels22002]

The New England Patriots passing offense needs wide receivers that threaten the football field outside the numbers. The passing offense has bogged down in the recent past (especially in the playoffs against the Jets and Ravens) with too many options that bog down the middle of the football field.

You make an interesting point. Maybe what's happening is that McDaniels and Belichick want a passing game between the hash marks and the sidelines, but do not want to invest the money it takes to get a good to elite player on the outside.

These wideouts like Fitzgerald or Calvin Johnson are rare and cost a mint to get or keep. Drafting WRs may be the iffiest proposition on the board - or at least in the QB category. If you find one, it throws your cap out of whack which the Patriots will not do.

Next best option is to build a bruising inside passing game and wideout corps that can overpower cornerbacks, not outrun them.

Branch and Stallworth can't outrun anybody anymore and never outmuscled DBs. Gaffney may have the jets, but we don't know due to injury. This guy and Hernandez are your next way of attacking 5'10" CBS.

 

[The Scrizz]

The New England Patriots passing offense needs wide receivers that threaten the football field outside the numbers. The passing offense has bogged down in the recent past (especially in the playoffs against the Jets and Ravens) with too many options that bog down the middle of the football field.

Why go through the trouble of signing the following wide receivers in the recent off-season if that was not an issue:

Lloyd
Stallworth
Gaffney
Gonzalez

Gonzalez was a cheap injury reclamation project no different that dozens of other guys brought in the past. And like most he was reclaimable. Stallworth had like 5 catches in the last 3 years. Again a cheap vet, worth a shot, cost them pretty much nothing.

Lloyd was their big WR signing. Gaffney got hurt. This tends to happen.

Why bother signing Addai unless you were convinced the RB's were terrible?

The Pats O gets bogged down when TB gets too much pressure or when the best TE in history gets hurt.

 

[Keyser Söze]

I wanted this guy in the draft...cool.

 

[ATippett56]

You make an interesting point. Maybe what's happening is that McDaniels and Belichick want a passing game between the hash marks and the sidelines, but do not want to invest the money it takes to get a good to elite player on the outside.

Brandon Lloyd was not a huge investment and Jabar Gaffney took the "home town discount".

Branch and Stallworth can't outrun anybody anymore and never outmuscled DBs. Gaffney may have the jets, but we don't know due to injury. This guy and Hernandez are your next way of attacking 5'10" CBS.

I certainly hope Jabar Gaffney will return healthy at some point this season.

Lloyd
Gaffney

Welker
Edelman
Salas

 

[strngplyr]

Why bother signing Addai unless you were convinced the RB's were terrible?

By this logic we must have drafted Ridley in the 3rd round because by the time it rolled around we were already convinced that Vereen was a bust.

We signed Bolden as a UDFA because everyone else on the roster sucked.

We also signed a QB back in January to a future contract because we figured Brady was done and a waste of roster space.

Turned Silvestro into a TE because Gronk and Hernandez don't have their head in the game and are just plain bad. Same for Tyler Urban.

Drafted Ebert cause Welker is a dead beat.

Brought in Demps because we realized Bolden sucked too, just like all the other RBs.

Kerry Taylor ..because, well, Lloyd is garbage.

Then we traded for Salas because Taylor wasn't the answer.

Ok maybe none of this is true and your statement was just ******ed. Maybe we signed Addai because we thought he could bring a veteran presence to one of the youngest RB groups in the entire NFL with only one member having more than a single season played. You sign anyone you think can potentially improve your team, not because you think everyone in that position is terrible.

 

[BradyFTW!]

There is a deeper wisdom in your post. Sometimes we as fans just want a guy here based on his talent, becouse we don't analyze the team as a whole but more like a sum of it's parts.

But if BB, McD and TB think that Larry Fitzgerald or Calvin Johnson doesn't work for our offense, they will axe him, and they will most likely make a good move by doing so. We will moan and whine here, but BB's resume speaks for itself and 95% of the times when we disagree with him he is the one who is correct.

There isn't a team in the league that wouldn't kill for a WR with the talent of a Fitzgerald or Megatron. It's the salary that keeps smart teams away - they'd never fit in our cap structure.

 

[BradyFTW!]

Gonzalez was a cheap injury reclamation project no different that dozens of other guys brought in the past. And like most he was reclaimable. Stallworth had like 5 catches in the last 3 years. Again a cheap vet, worth a shot, cost them pretty much nothing.

Lloyd was their big WR signing. Gaffney got hurt. This tends to happen.

Why bother signing Addai unless you were convinced the RB's were terrible?

The Pats O gets bogged down when TB gets too much pressure or when the best TE in history gets hurt.

To create competition and make Vereen earn his spot, I would think.

 

[ATippett56]

Gonzalez was a cheap injury reclamation project no different that dozens of other guys brought in the past. And like most he was reclaimable. Stallworth had like 5 catches in the last 3 years. Again a cheap vet, worth a shot, cost them pretty much nothing.

The aforementioned wide receivers were brought into training camp to compete.

Lloyd was their big WR signing. Gaffney got hurt. This tends to happen.

That doesn't mean the New England Patriots should ignore depth at the wide receiver position.

The Pats O gets bogged down when TB gets too much pressure or when the best TE in history gets hurt.

If one receiving option gets injured, the other receiving options need to step up. Hence, Chad Ochocinco is no longer on the New England Patriot roster.

 

[The Scrizz]

To create competition and make Vereen earn his spot, I would think.

I don't know if either you or strngplyr got the point which was in response to Tippet. It was sarcasm.

Basically the reason you sign any of these guys is to make the team better.

 

[The Scrizz]

The aforementioned wide receivers were brought into training camp to compete.

That doesn't mean the New England Patriots should ignore depth at the wide receiver position.

If one receiving option gets injured, the other receiving options need to step up. Hence, Chad Ochocinco is no longer on the New England Patriot roster.

Isn't bringing WR's into training camp to compete an effort to, you know, build depth? This is completely nonsensical. You contradict yourself in the same post.

 

[Ring 6]

The aforementioned wide receivers were brought into training camp to compete.

Which is what they did and except for Lloyd (and Gaffney most likely) they failed,

That doesn't mean the New England Patriots should ignore depth at the wide receiver position.

How can you possible suggest they ignored the WR position?

If one receiving option gets injured, the other receiving options need to step up. Hence, Chad Ochocinco is no longer on the New England Patriot roster.

Not sure what point you are making here.

 

[moosekill]

I don't know if either you or strngplyr got the point which was in response to Tippet. It was sarcasm.

Basically the reason you sign any of these guys is to make the team better.

I got it...........

 

[ATippett56]

Not sure what point you are making here.

Super Bowl - Gronk playing injured. The six million dollar man needed to step up and pick up the slack; Chad Ochocinco failed.

 

[The Scrizz]

By this logic we must have drafted Ridley in the 3rd round because by the time it rolled around we were already convinced that Vereen was a bust.



Ok maybe none of this is true and your statement was just ******ed. Maybe we signed Addai because we thought he could bring a veteran presence to one of the youngest RB groups in the entire NFL with only one member having more than a single season played. You sign anyone you think can potentially improve your team, not because you think everyone in that position is terrible.

Maybe you should read the post being replied to and the response before you start calling people ******ed.

I was pointing out the same faulty logic that Tippet was using to explain why the Pats brought in a bunch of WR who aren't with the team anymore.

Addai was an example of why any player is brought in, including the WR's.

Do you need a book from me to explain every sentence? Because I can do that if you are too ******ed to grasp context.

 

[The Scrizz]

I got it...........

Congrats. Apparently you aren't as ******ed as I am.

 

[ATippett56]

Isn't bringing WR's into training camp to compete an effort to, you know, build depth? This is completely nonsensical. You contradict yourself in the same post.

Your reading comprehension needs improving.

 

[BradyFTW!]

I don't know if either you or strngplyr got the point which was in response to Tippet. It was sarcasm.

Basically the reason you sign any of these guys is to make the team better.

Ahh, yeah, my bad then. I definitely missed the point.

Although I do disagree with any assessment that says that the Patriots were in fine at WR last year. They had the best slot receiver in the NFL, a once-good flanker who was running on fumes, and that was about it. They tried to address the need in the offseason, seem to have had success in at least getting a capable starter who can play outside the numbers (Lloyd), and hopefully another guy on the shadow roster who will come back when healthy (Gaffney). Looks like Belichick's still not happy with the depth, though--and he shouldn't be--so moves are still being made.

 

[Ring 6]

Super Bowl - Gronk playing injured. The six million dollar man needed to step up and pick up the slack; Chad Ochocinco failed.

Again, not sure what the siginificance of discussing that backups are needed if starters are injured is that it would be in this thread.