Player Signing Patriots to sign Jamie Collins

[mgteich]

Uche is fine as the #3 OLB, with Judon and Jennings get almost all the reps.

 

[mgteich]

I'd rather see Jaime out there than Tavai. 100%

Agreed.

However, the problem is not with STer and emergency backup Tavai. The problem is with McMillan, Wilson, (and McGrone).

 

[mgteich]

Solid depth I guess, nothing more than that.

Unfortunately, I disagree.

Bentley and Tavai are getting all the reps inside. McMillan has been demoted to STO. Wilson is the backup #3 ILB. I wouldn't be surprised if Collins get lost of reps.

 

[venecol]

Agreed.

However, the problem is not with STer and emergency backup Tavai. The problem is with McMillan, Wilson, (and McGrone).

Tavai played 75% of the D snaps!

 

[mgteich]

Tavai played 75% of the D snaps!

What is your point?

Tavai is currently our #2 ILB.

Bentley played 93% of the snaps, and Tavai 75% as you said. Wilson played 14% and McMillan 0%.

 

[Wozzy]

Yeah. It's so f'in legit to spazz like you are over stats from 3 years ago as if they have ANY impact today. Collins, for all his athleticism never figured out how to cover TEs. Had he been able to cover them in 2015 against Denver, we'd have beaten them despite all the injuries.

He led the Lions in tackles the year before last... one season removed... but be dramatic and engage in extreme (outright wrong) hyperbole. He missed some games on the IR last year and joined this team midseason.

As far as that AFC Championship game goes, Owen Daniel’s scored two TD’s. Collins was probably tired considering he led the entire game (both teams) with 8 tackles, 6 solo, 3 for a loss and 2 sacks. The defense probably wouldn’t be so tired if Tom hadn’t thrown two interceptions and given the Bronco’s offense so many opportunities to score… his 56 QB Rating didn’t help either. Oops… the sacred cow is human afterall.

Collins was one of many horrible pieces on a horrible 2020 Detroit team. Collins did jack squat outside of 2 plays last year. He was responsible for one of the blocked punts against Bailey last year as well.

He led them in tackles, but their best defender was the problem... great analysis.

But you go ahead an yammer on about BS that has ZERO bearing on what he's done in the last 2 years..

He led his team in tackles the year before last... you lied above and said it happened three years ago. So your entire premise is bllsht.

BTW, Since you've forgotten. That 2019 defense s**t the bed in the 2nd half of the season. The horrible play of him and Van Noy was directly (not solely) responsible for the Patriots finishing the season 4-5 (including the play-off loss). Such a great defense that they went from giving up 61 points in the first 8 games (7.625 PPG) to 164 points over the last 8 games (20.5 PPG). So spare everyone the attempt at re-writing history. Collins crappy play is well documented.

The 2019 defense was ranked #1 in just about every stat they tally, the offense was ranked 17th in points and collapsed down the stretch. Again... blaming the best part of a team for the failure of the worst.

Collins barely played last year because he was only here half a season and missed much of it on IR. He's only played 12 games one other time in his career so he's been really durable. I suspect they'll do what they did with Cannon, keep him on the practice squad until they see if he's healthy and bring him up if he is. Collins is a former All Pro who has been one of the best LB'ers in the NFL for years and paid like one... but yeah.

 

[Wozzy]

Ancient history.

Cam Newton is still available. He's a former MVP, don't you know.

He led his team in tackles the year before last and was injured last year... one year isn't ancient history.

 

[203Pat]

Uche is fine as the #3 OLB, with Judon and Jennings get almost all the reps.

Uche is fine with a very minor role in a rotational pass rusher situation but I think we were all hoping he would be more by now as a second round pick in his third year. I think he will be battling for a roster spot next August. As for Jennings he still isn't playing all that much. He was a healthy scratch week one and played his season high for snaps at 38% against Green Bay.

 

[venecol]

What is your point?

Tavai is currently our #2 ILB.

Bentley played 93% of the snaps, and Tavai 75% as you said. Wilson played 14% and McMillan 0%.

My point is Tavai shouldn't be playing 5% of D snaps nvm 75%. Dude is a jag and sucks. But I guess he's all we got? Wow.

 

[captain stone]

Collins was an All Pro/Pro Bowler and led this team in every stat imaginable in 2019 including tackles, solo tackles, tackles for a loss, forced fumbles and was third in interceptions on the #1 ranked defense in the league… but he’s crap. I want to understand how that works?

He led his team in tackles in 2014, 2015, 2016 until he was traded, 2018 on the Browns, 2019 back on the Patriots, and 2020 on the Lions, 6 times on three different teams….. but he’s crap.

Sounds legit...

That was Then; This is Now.

 

[captain stone]

Bentley is doing his job as one of the 3 MLB's. As you say, Wilson and McMillan haven't stepped up.

If "doing your job" is Sucking, then you're right.

IMO, Tavai is also doing his job as a STer and an emergency #7 LB. It is NOT his fault that the top six aren't enough to keep his reps to a very, very low amount
(Judon, Jennings, Uche, Bentley, McMillan and Wilson)

Judon's snaps have nothing at all to do with any snaps that Jalopy might or might not see.

 

[captain stone]

Uche is fine as the #3 OLB, with Judon and Jennings get almost all the reps.

Uche is NOT FINE, IN ANY CAPACITY ANYWHERE. PERIOD.

 

[PatsFan2]

Yeah. It's so f'in legit to spazz like you are over stats from 3 years ago as if they have ANY impact today. Collins, for all his athleticism never figured out how to cover TEs. Had he been able to cover them in 2015 against Denver, we'd have beaten them despite all the injuries.

Collins was one of many horrible pieces on a horrible 2020 Detroit team. Collins did jack squat outside of 2 plays last year. He was responsible for one of the blocked punts against Bailey last year as well.

But you go ahead an yammer on about BS that has ZERO bearing on what he's done in the last 2 years..

BTW, Since you've forgotten. That 2019 defense s**t the bed in the 2nd half of the season. The horrible play of him and Van Noy was directly (not solely) responsible for the Patriots finishing the season 4-5 (including the play-off loss). Such a great defense that they went from giving up 61 points in the first 8 games (7.625 PPG) to 164 points over the last 8 games (20.5 PPG). So spare everyone the attempt at re-writing history. Collins crappy play is well documented.

Yeah I don't get the Collins love either if I'm the Offense I am sending my receiving RB and TE in Collins direction. Hope he make the tackle 15 yards downfield to pad his stats.

 

[captain stone]

Agreed.

However, the problem is not with STer and emergency backup Tavai. The problem is with McMillan, Wilson, (and McGrone).

AND Jalopy... AND JaWrong...

 

[captain stone]

Tavai played 75% of the D snaps!

That's 76% too many.

 

[jah]

That's 76% too many.

Does -1% defensive snaps mean 1% offensive snaps? Maybe he can play fullback.

 

[Zuma]

AND Jalopy...

Pronunciation: Jahlani Tavai

Pronunciation: Jahlani Tavai

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[VJCPatriot]

Uche is NOT FINE, IN ANY CAPACITY ANYWHERE. PERIOD.

Just to give some perspective on Patriots 2nd round pick Josh Uche. As a linebacker for 25 games he has made a total of 23 combined tackles... in 3 YEARS.

Meanwhile rookie of the month Devin Lloyd, the guy we passed on to take an OG in round 1, well he's made 38 combined tackles... in 1 month!!!

With that kind of production, you could even say that Josh Uche is the N'Keal Harry of linebackers!

 

[PatsFan2]

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Pronunciation: Jahlani Tavai

Pronunciation: Jahlani Tavai

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Alight so he looks a little like Van Noy but that's it.

 

[PatsFan2]

Just to give some perspective on Patriots 2nd round pick Josh Uche. As a linebacker he has made a total of 23 combined tackles... in 3 YEARS.

Meanwhile rookie of the month Devin Lloyd, the guy we passed on to take an OG in round 1, well he's made 38 combined tackles... in 1 month!!!

Ouch! its' the Big one the Big one Elizabeth I'm coming to join you honey.