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He got cut by the worst team in football. Most likely nothing except being a thug.

This is a weak take. Dion Lewis was also cut by the Browns and he has thrived with New England. Just because the Browns cut him doesn't mean anything. They have no idea what they're doing. Glad you got your racially loaded point across though.
 
I don't think we are using him properly.
He should be running Edelmans routes not Moss's.
I hate to question anything this coaching staff does but I feel running him deep all the time is a waste of his quickness and talents.
It was definitely disappointing to see the look on Brady's face of frustration from the word go.
I don't understand the funk he seemed to be in but we all have bad days at work.

Cooks isn't a slot wr and def wasn't brought in to run those routes. Hes not a bad r/r but he doesn't win that way.
 
After one bad game let's not call him Cookie
I remember games this year where he went up fought for the ball and won.
Would still like to see Josh Gordon get traded here.
Brady tried to Chuck the ball up like he was playing catch with Moss in his prime and Cooks isnt that guy.
No one in the NFL not named DeAndre Hopkins or AJ Green is.

Yes I purposely let Antonio Brown out of that list because he isn't a go up and get it guy he is a amazing route runner who effortlessly gets open and plucks the ball out the air without breaking stride or slowing down.
Here is the matchup I would do against Pitt.
Gilmore 1 on 1 against Brown Rowe on Bryant
Butler on Schuster.
That would be the matchup I have Gilmore should have safety help all game.
I remember hearing the Pats offered Collins to the Texans in exchange for Hopkins last year. Imagine if that happened.
 
Chad Brown and Laurence Maroney got through physicals. I could pass a physical too. Doesn't mean I can [play in the NFL. Britt got cut from the worst team in football because he sucks. Stone hands according to Browns fans.
He actually asked for his release, which they fairly granted...and wanted to be with New England ever since his release... per NFL Network
 
Gonna go out on a limb and say Britt has 3 catches for 45 yards in the next 3 games and is a non factor. Bet Brady doesn't throw to him even when he's open....
In other words, he will replace Dorsett?
 
Gonna go out on a limb and say Britt has 3 catches for 45 yards in the next 3 games and is a non factor. Bet Brady doesn't throw to him even when he's open....
If you are saying he'll be a non factor, I expect Britt to be a contributor given your dismal accuracy about this team.
 
He sucks.

We’ll see. He can play in traffic, fight for the ball and run routes. Schiano loved him. But if he can’t adapt to the Patriot Way and catch the ball, he won’t be around long.
 
We’ll see. He can play in traffic, fight for the ball and run routes. Schiano loved him. But if he can’t adapt to the Patriot Way and catch the ball, he won’t be around long.
Hopefully, he’s around for 6-7 games at the very least, then competes for a spot in camp. I don’t think any of us would mind seeing some cheaper guys with proven talent compete for a role over the summer. Dorsett and Britt could potentially be an improvement for the kind of competition we usually see with the receivers outside of WR1-WR5.
 
The bread and butter of our offense is the WR shallow cross, with the WR starting from being lined up at any position.

Edelman was special because, though smurfy in height, he'd regularly win battles at the line of scrimmage and also then create space with short area quickness. Nobody else save Amendola comes even halfway toward matching those two skills in the same person.

Cooks and Dorsett have vertical speed, some short area quickness, but are seemingly unable to win at the LOS in crossing routes, thus they are not good "quick hit" targets. Hogan has decent vertical speed, seems to lack short area quickness, but can win more often at the LOS. Mitchell, if healthy, is probably more like Hogan.

I'm guessing Britt is here for a 2018 audition as a guy who might win LOS battles and be a more viable target on shallow crosses. I just don't know that he has the short area quickness to obtain a larger role, even next year.

Training camps in the system might help Cooks and even Dorsett with their techniques in getting off the LOS, so I hope that even Dorsett can stick around due to his age and physical ability, but his days might be numbered

Effective running of shallow crossers and other short routes seems likely to be as much about (or more about) learned technique (footwork as well as route-running) as it is about native physical agility.

Some agility testing comps:

Edelman: 3.92 ss ... 6.62 3c (4.52/40)
Amendola: 4.25 ss ... 6.81 3c (4.58/40)
Jarvis Landry: 4.59 ss ... 7.56 3c (4.71/40)
Britt: 4.47 ss (same as Gronk)

Cooks: 3.81 ss ... 6.76 3c (4.33/40)
Dorsett: 4.11 ss ... 6.70 3c (4.33/40)
McCarron: 4.16 ss ... 6.59 3c (4.41/40)

None of the first group timed particularly well in the 40, so it seems highly unlikely that they'd have been used to take the top off the defense very often (and Edelman didn't play WR in college, anyway).

The guys in the second group appear to have relatively elite long speed, so it seems likely to me that it's the first thing (perhaps the only thing) that their early coaches developed and exploited. IOW, they may have had very little training/experience in the art of running the shallow route (McCarron may be somewhat an exception, since I seem to recall seeing him turn short crossers into long gains with his speed on college highlight reels).

Neither Cooks nor Dorsett appear to have been effective running shallow routes this season, but I'm not certain that this means they "can't" at some point in the future. Statistical point: Dorsett has 7 receptions for 120 yds (20.0 ypc). However, two of those receptions went for 38 yds and 39 yds. Simple math shows that his other 5 catches gained 43 total yards = an 8.6 ypc. Obviously, he's run SOME shallower routes (though not necessarily Edelman's bread-and-butter routes).

Just to be clear, I'm not saying that either Cooks/Dorsett could - or SHOULD - become an Edelman replacement. That would be a waste of their long speed. However, it seems possible to me that, with proper development and training in the basic footwork and route-technique, become sufficiently effective at shallow crossers, etc. to diversify their legitimate route portfolios (and help the passing game in more than one way). They're both only 24, so there's still plenty of time for them to develop into more complete pass-catchers.

So, why aren't they "there" yet?

It's been reported that Cooks sometimes ran a shallower route for Brees, and that the Saints appear to be using a route-concept system and verbiage that is very similar to what the Pats use. Similar, but not necessarily identical, so there's certainly been some learning curve for Cooks, even on the routes that he has been running for the Pats this season. BB has said that spring practices and OTAs are primarily focused on learning/correcting/refining technique and that, by the time the team gets to Camp, practice is almost entirely about installation (and, obviously, Dorsett had none of that with the Pats). Then, once the season starts, the practice is on game plans and expanding the playbook. So, Dorsett may be mostly getting by this season on what he knew before he got here. Given where he came from, that might not be a whole lot.

In an ideal world, Cooks maybe might have received some training in shallower routes over the summer. In the real world, with restricted practice time and reps - and with Edelman healthy right up to the last minute before the season started - it seems likely to me that that McD focused on getting Cooks up to speed on the routes that Edelman doesn't typically run.

By the start of next season though, Cooks (and Dorsett, if he's retained), may be a bit more well-rounded. We'll see how that goes.
 
We’ll see. He can play in traffic, fight for the ball and run routes. Schiano loved him. But if he can’t adapt to the Patriot Way and catch the ball, he won’t be around long.

The catch rates of veteran WRs from other teams have often (though not always) improved significantly when they're on the Pats. I wonder why that could be?

 
If you are saying he'll be a non factor, I expect Britt to be a contributor given your dismal accuracy about this team.
what's YOUR prediction on Britt's productivity? Curious since all these receivers signed during the season have very minimal to no contribution at all - Michael Floyd, Keshawn Martin, Austin Collie, Phillip Dorsett, Donte Stallworth (2nd time around)...
I can think of ONE of these mid season acquisitions who actually made an impact - Jabar Gaffney, and that was 11 years ago...
 
In other words, he will replace Dorsett?
Yes.

Cooks
DA
Hogs
Britt
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Dorsett

Other open questions are MM's health and ability to return (which does not look good) and there possibly could be the situation with Hogs where he doesn't need immediate surgery and is "gutting it out" but does need surgery in the offseason. If there is structural damage and that is impeding this ability to catch the ball (more games like MIA) then they might need to put him on IR as well.
 
NEGATIVE:

A ton of run-ins with the law. Every sign of being a bad team-mate -- complains about playing in London, gets suspended for missing curfew. Terry Pluto (Browns beat writer, very well respected) wanted him cut:

Cleveland Browns in London? Leave Kenny Britt home! -- Terry Pluto (photos)
POSITIVE:

Endorsement from McCourty. At least the infractions were signs of irresponsibility and lack of respect for the law, rather than DV.

Like Bennett, scored a consolation touchdown in garbage time against the Pats, after a 66-yard catch:

All 22: Kenny Britt's Big 66-yard Catch

All 22: Kenny Britt Finishes Drive with TD
At his best, he looks like Dez Bryant. But you've got to wonder why Cleveland dumped him and everyone else passed.
 
NEGATIVE:

A ton of run-ins with the law. Every sign of being a bad team-mate -- complains about playing in London, gets suspended for missing curfew. Terry Pluto (Browns beat writer, very well respected) wanted him cut:

Cleveland Browns in London? Leave Kenny Britt home! -- Terry Pluto (photos)
POSITIVE:

Endorsement from McCourty. At least the infractions were signs of irresponsibility and lack of respect for the law, rather than DV.

Like Bennett, scored a consolation touchdown in garbage time against the Pats, after a 66-yard catch:

All 22: Kenny Britt's Big 66-yard Catch

All 22: Kenny Britt Finishes Drive with TD
At his best, he looks like Dez Bryant. But you've got to wonder why Cleveland dumped him and everyone else passed.
The rumor was he turned down the Jags and Chiefs for the Patriots.
 
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