Patriots Rumor Patriots potentially trading for Aiyuk (Update - Patriots Out of the Running)

[stcjones]

No one wants to play in New England...cheap owner, sh#t facilities, terrible team, awful weather, no prime time games, inexperienced coaching staff w zero track record, sky high taxes, stadium in the middle of nowhere....

I think you hit the nail on the head with a lot of these points….not all but a lot

 

[borg]

I think you hit the nail on the head with a lot of these points….not all but a lot

They do have an inland lighthouse with a tiny bell.

 

[Ring 6]

I’d be more worried about him playing poorly and getting trashed by Boston media and fans and then we have another Mac (with a lot more talent of course) who became a head case because of the criticism and pressure here combined with yes many things he did wrong of course ……but my point is don’t throw Drake in too early knowing we are going to have a rough year with no OL protection again so that the mediots and fans take it out on him and gets him in a bad track right out of the gate….Let him learn under Brissett this year and grow up a bit and then next year he should be ready to go……

If he can’t handle that, he’s the wrong guy.
We are taking about wanting him to come from behind and win big games and super bowls. If he isn’t capable of struggling as a rookie and hearing criticism he will never be that.
Why would you have him sit out and gain nothing all year? He isn’t learning anything real from the bench or in the scout team. Then next year he will be right back to where he is now and you’ll be afraid to play him again because his feelings might get hurt.

 

[Ring 6]

Can’t say we don’t spent for top end talent.
Ridley wanted to remain in the South, Aiyuk is an Idiot.
Now let’s turn our attention if we really need a franchise WR to Lamb or Higgins.

What did we spend on top talent?
When we are losing are you gonna say can’t say we don’t win because we tried?

 

[Ring 6]

That is a lot of money.

The question is his much was real, how much was guaranteed.

 

[Ring 6]

A lot needs to go the Pats way. Lol. Like find a pair of OTs, a QB, a pass rush, and a WR that scares anyone? Like those four things need to go the Pats way? 8 wins. Lol. When did you turn into Mr. Homer?

I’m not sure they will win 8 games in Mayo’s tenure.

 

[stcjones]

They do have an inland lighthouse with a tiny bell.

Yes that is true and Tom Brady rang it for good luck ….so we have that going for us!

 

[XLIX]

Chiefs have been playing 3D chess while we and many other teams are playing tiddly winks

Everyone used to say the same thing about Belichick.

It's amazing how smart we were and they are when having the best QB in the League.

 

[Rob0729]

One of my co- workers attended camp this year he was saying bakers speed is un real. He was 2, 3 steps on every CB not named gonzo. I really like what he can be for the offense. I think baker and folks are going to be ballers.

I am now down in NC. So I get limited info on the Pats these days, but I have heard good things about Baker. I hear his route running is pretty good too (that was the knock of him coming out of college). I did see several reports post draft that put Baker in the category of steals of the draft. Some of them claimed he could end up having first round talent.

 

[Rob0729]

What talent did they add? They spent all the top picks on offense in 2022 also.
There were many good players in free agency, I’ve already give a list twice.
Is your argument that there was no one better than the offensive players we have? Seriously?

They might have gotten their franchise QB and receivers in this draft.

In 2022, Belichick traded down in the first round and made a major reach for a guard from a lower level division 1 conference that the selection was mocked in real time by the 49ers. And the reason why they needed to draft a guard is because they trade Mason who was solid. They drafted Thornton in the second which everyone said is a reach and so far is proving to be true. And they drafted a back up QB in the 4th. Did they really do a good job putting weapons around Mac?

And I am arguing, there was little to no talent worth paying for on offense in free agency. Why pay big bucks to make minor upgrades to the offense? Sure they could have given a big contract to Hollywood Brown (the only way he would have come here) and he would have been an upgrade, but would he really made any difference? Brown decided to take an one year deal with the best QB in the league so he can cash in next year.

 

[Ring 6]

They might have gotten their franchise QB and receivers in this draft.

In 2022, Belichick traded down in the first round and drafted a guard that the selection was mocked in real time by the 49ers. And the reason why they needed to draft a guard is because they trade Mason who was solid. They drafted Thornton in the second which everyone said is a reach and so far is proving to be true. And they drafted a back up QB in the 4th. Did they really do a good job putting weapons around Mac?

And I am arguing, there was little to no talent worth paying for on offense in free agency. Why pay big bucks to make minor upgrades to the offense? Sure they could have given a big contract to Hollywood Brown (the only way he would have come here) and he would have been an upgrade, but would he really made any difference? Brown decided to take a one year deal with the best QB in the league so he can cash in next year.

Your argument is the worst offense in football couldn’t be upgraded because of the players available in the nfl were no good. Gotcha. We disagree.

 

[Rob0729]

Your argument is the worst offense in football couldn’t be upgraded because of the players available in the nfl were no good. Gotcha. We disagree.

Don't put words in my mouth. I am arguing it isn't worth spending money to upgrade just to upgrade. The Pats could have spent a lot of money on average at best talent on offense that would have upgrade the offense to make the Patriots a middle of the pack team. It would be a benefit for the short term and a negative for the long term.

We saw this with the Patriots in 2021. The Pats spent a lot of money to upgrade the team. And it gave them a boost that year. But did it help them in the long term?

 

[Stu Pidassle]

I think we could be much better than regarded I think having a Excellent Kicker not named Chad Wide-Left is going to be key. The last thing this Team needs is a mediocre Kicker which I think Wide-Left is taking points off the Board.

A good kicker is very important on a team that figures to be in a lot of close games. It is normal for rookie kickers to have a few bumps as rookies. Janikowski had a 68% conversion rate as a first round pick. I also don't understand the love for Joe Slye, he has 82% FG and 88% EP for his career. He has not been good so far. Wyleft has more potential, it is in everyone's best interest to give him the chance to win the job. I like his attitude, he does not hide from last year and seems determined to learn from the experience.

 

[Salsalife]

Sources say Patriots offer was the highest bidder.... Don't matter....

 

[Wozzy]

Your inability to admit wrong takes is ok... we all know... Lynch was ALREADY with organization in a different role.. he them was promoted. Shanny was then hired by Lynch... shanny controls the 53 Lynch controls the 90... Lynch was given an extension in 2020...

Lynch was working in television broadcasting, it was in the article I provided to you yesterday. This isn’t a second hand account, it’s Lynch telling the story how he was hired… you’re wrong.

But like most back and forth conversations that go on here one person can’t admit when they’re completely and utterly wrong. Here is Lynch himself telling you you’re wrong.



Shanahan is responsible for hiring Lynch, not the other way around.

 

[Wozzy]

A good kicker is very important on a team that figures to be in a lot of close games. It is normal for rookie kickers to have a few bumps as rookies. Janikowski had a 68% conversion rate as a first round pick. I also don't understand the love for Joe Slye, he has 82% FG and 88% EP for his career. He has not been good so far. Wyleft has more potential, it is in everyone's best interest to give him the chance to win the job. I like his attitude, he does not hide from last year and seems determined to learn from the experience.

People seem to forget Gostkowski struggled some as a rookie before figuring it out and becoming a dependable kicker.

Ryland could fix himself, we’ll see.

 

[203Pat]

Can’t say we don’t spent for top end talent.
Ridley wanted to remain in the South, Aiyuk is an Idiot.
Now let’s turn our attention if we really need a franchise WR to Lamb or Higgins.

You can still say we don't spend on top talent. At least now you can say we try.

 

[Stu Pidassle]

If he can’t handle that, he’s the wrong guy.
We are taking about wanting him to come from behind and win big games and super bowls. If he isn’t capable of struggling as a rookie and hearing criticism he will never be that.
Why would you have him sit out and gain nothing all year? He isn’t learning anything real from the bench or in the scout team. Then next year he will be right back to where he is now and you’ll be afraid to play him again because his feelings might get hurt.

No one disagrees with the basic premise that Maye will not fully develop without playing time that is the final step in his development plan. Like most people on this board I want Maye to earn the job and start before the season is over. There is no need to rush the process.

If Maye were to catch the surfing bug by playing around on Hampton Beach and decided that he wanted to become the best surfer in the history of the sport, he would not immediately book a vacation to Nazaré, Portugal home of the the largest, most difficult waves in the world. He would work his way up to develop the necessary skills first. If not, he would get pummeled. The result would damage his confidence and set his progress back tremendously. Facing intense pressure when when he is preoccupied with getting the basics right would be the equivalent of trying to ride a 100 foot wave after mastering the three footers at Hampton. If Maye can't handle Wikiki by the end of the year, there is reason to be on alert that he is behind schedule.

 

[Wozzy]

Everyone used to say the same thing about Belichick.

It's amazing how smart we were and they are when having the best QB in the League.

Andy Reid drafted Mahomes, BB drafted Brady… it’s amazing how you QB fanboys keep trying to omit this fact.

The Chiefs have been incredibly smart since they had to pay Mahomes after his rookie deal. The traded away the best WR in the entire NFL and it resulted in two more rings.

Mahomes also wouldn’t have any rings if Reid didn’t hire Steve Spags to run his defense and built that unit into a monster:

It’s a team game, stop reducing it down to a one person endeavor… that’s dumb.

 

[Stu Pidassle]

People seem to forget Gostkowski struggled some as a rookie before figuring it out and becoming a dependable kicker.

Ryland could fix himself, we’ll see.

So did Vinatieri, who had a lower field goal percentage than Ryland as a rookie. The kid has a better leg than Ghost and Adam, he just needs to learn the mental part of the game.