Patriots Harrassed by NFL/Jets Over Bugging/Electronics Suspicions - Conflicting Reports

[Marko]

This is looking more and more like a shakedown, they'll keep harassing the team until they find anything. Meanwhile, they'll settle for creating a cloud of suspicion around the Patriots. what kills me is that the league fines players for questioning the referees in the press, yet they go out of their way to slander the Patriots! If they want to play this mafia style game I suggest Kraft grab Mark Briggs and get to work with a plan to counter it.

 

[DefenseRules]

This is looking more and more like a shakedown, they'll keep harassing the team until they find anything. Meanwhile, they'll settle for creating a cloud of suspicion around the Patriots. what kills me is that the league fines players for questioning the referees in the press, yet they go out of their way to slander the Patriots! If they want to play this mafia style game I suggest Kraft grab Mark Briggs and get to work with a plan to counter it.

Sadly, the owner is SOFT!! The league knows that they can do what they want.

 

[n1997y]

It's one thing to do a bug sweep, it's a whole lot more serious when they are conviscating team employees' cell phones and interrogating them. This deserves some investigative journalism to find out exactly what happened, why it happened, and if it is beyond normal protocols. This sounds like the NFl lied yet again and is harrasing one of its franchises and their employees. Let's hope some reporter isn't afraid of the NFL and keeps asking questions until they get answers. If true, this is a big deal.

Need to make a lot of noise about this.

Anybody know how to contact that Washington Post reporter that was starting to expose Goodell over IdealGasLawGate? Or the WSJ reporter that seemed to have a clue?

Will be interesting to see if Peter King touches this, and if he does just how he spins it.

 

[Jackson 2]

Need to make a lot of noise about this.

Anybody know how to contact that Washington Post reporter that was starting to expose Goodell over IdealGasLawGate? Or the WSJ reporter that seemed to have a clue?

Will be interesting to see if Peter King touches this, and if he does just how he spins it.

How he'll spin it is the way everyone will spin it: when you habitually cheat, you reap what you sow. Expanded publicity of this will only spin into more guilt in the public's eye for NE.

 

[ReverendMaynard]

NFL is continuing it's assault on the Pats because they know Kraft isn't gonna do sh!t.

At this point, Kraft can't do ****. He's appeased himself into a corner. Goodell is unstoppable now.

 

[NashuaPats]

Need to make a lot of noise about this.

Anybody know how to contact that Washington Post reporter that was starting to expose Goodell over IdealGasLawGate? Or the WSJ reporter that seemed to have a clue?

Will be interesting to see if Peter King touches this, and if he does just how he spins it.

I believe you are thinking of Sally Jenkins. It would be great if she digs into this.

Peter King won't do a darn thing.

 

[VectorPrime]

Belichick could say something.

 

[shmessy]

Gestapo at work.
Source: Jets' complaint prompted interrogation of Patriots sideline staff

So why did the NFL publicly lie this afternoon in response to the initial report from Esiason???

The media needs to jump on this.

 

[n1997y]

How he'll spin it is the way everyone will spin it: when you habitually cheat, you reap what you sow. Expanded publicity of this will only spin into more guilt in the public's eye for NE.

If the emphasis is on the league conducting a witch hunt it could actually start to shift the belief from the Patriots cheating to the league conspiring against them.

The narrative needs to be shifted, to become the persecution of the team simply because they are better.

That started a bit in the post game talk, forget if it was before or after Gronk's post game interview, but there was some comment about how other teams might just have to work harder to compete with the Patriots. That was about the same time as the comment about Adrews maybe being a candidate for rookie of the year if anyone has or can find an archive of that segment (if so I'd like to get it, or a pointer).

Couple that with Gronk's comments about having a bunch of guys who just love football and this team could become sympathetic to a lot of fans. Need to make the script cast the Patriots as champions of freedom fighting the evil oppression of the league and its conspiracy of selfish owners. It'll at least undermine the whole "cheatriot" mindset.

 

[VectorPrime]

So why did the NFL publicly lie this afternoon in response to the initial report from Esiason???

The media needs to jump on this.

Florio will probably write up something decent later.

 

[DefenseRules]

Sick of this BS

 

[raduray]

Jests (and the NFL) are playing fantasy while the Patriots are playing real football.

 

[Wrath Mania]

Belichick could say something.

I don't think it's on BB at this point, not in the midst of the season. Ultimately this on Kraft, but the fool is too busy getting drunk and coming up with post-hoc one liners to trash the Colts/get back in the less intelligent fans' good graces to do anything about it.

I take back all the respect I had for the new Jets. Same garbage.

 

[Jackson 2]

If the emphasis is on the league conducting a witch hunt it could actually start to shift the belief from the Patriots cheating to the league conspiring against them.

The narrative needs to be shifted, to become the persecution of the team simply because they are better.

That started a bit in the post game talk, forget if it was before or after Gronk but there

I don't want you to be wrong on this and typical common sense would suggest you are right. But, the time for the narrative to be changed is long gone if, in fact, it ever existed. Everyone, outside of NE thinks what happened to the 3 Pats employees was warranted and that they likely were let off after being found guilty. Please, let's stop believing there will ever be a sea change about this **** with the public. There won't.

 

[rochrist]

If the emphasis is on the league conducting a witch hunt it could actually start to shift the belief from the Patriots cheating to the league conspiring against them.

The narrative needs to be shifted, to become the persecution of the team simply because they are better.

That started a bit in the post game talk, forget if it was before or after Gronk's post game interview, but there was some comment about how other teams might just have to work harder to compete with the Patriots. That was about the same time as the comment about Adrews maybe being a candidate for rookie of the year if anyone has or can find an archive of that segment (if so I'd like to get it, or a pointer).

Couple that with Gronk's comments about having a bunch of guys who just love football and this team could become sympathetic to a lot of fans. Need to make the script cast the Patriots as champions of freedom fighting the evil oppression of the league and its conspiracy of selfish owners. It'll at least undermine the whole "cheatriot" mindset.

I can't imagine someone more loveable than Gronk really. He's such a goof.

 

[QuantumMechanic]

It's not harassment. It's illegal. Photographing? Wanting to check cell phones? Right. Get a warrant as*hole. Seriously that is some illegal stuff they did. Why it took that long for a staffer to get wind of it is BS as well?

The warrant requirement only applies to the government. The NFL does not need any sort of warrant to demand to see cell phones.

If the cell phones were league-issued, the NFL has the right to demand to see them.

If the cell phones were team-issued, the NFL probably has the right to demand to see them, depending on what the agreements between the teams and the league say about that. Those agreements may well say that the NFL has the right to demand team-issued phones.

If the cell phones were personal, the NFL could demand to see them (a) if the employment contract with the employees says having to give phones to the NFL is a condition of employment, and (b) the state specified by the choice-of-law clause in the contracts allows such a provision to be enforced.

And even if the NFL has no right to see the phones at all, the NFL can make it clear it'll make trouble for the employee and the team if they are not turned over.

 

[Jackson 2]

If the emphasis is on the league conducting a witch hunt it could actually start to shift the belief from the Patriots cheating to the league conspiring against them.

The narrative needs to be shifted, to become the persecution of the team simply because they are better.

That started a bit in the post game talk, forget if it was before or after Gronk's post game interview, but there was some comment about how other teams might just have to work harder to compete with the Patriots. That was about the same time as the comment about Adrews maybe being a candidate for rookie of the year if anyone has or can find an archive of that segment (if so I'd like to get it, or a pointer).

Couple that with Gronk's comments about having a bunch of guys who just love football and this team could become sympathetic to a lot of fans. Need to make the script cast the Patriots as champions of freedom fighting the evil oppression of the league and its conspiracy of selfish owners. It'll at least undermine the whole "cheatriot" mindset.

I've got this real nice bridge for sale. Interested???

 

[n1997y]

I don't want you to be wrong on this and typical common sense would suggest you are right. But, the time for the narrative to be changed is long gone if, in fact, it ever existed. Everyone, outside of NE thinks what happened to the 3 Pats employees was warranted and that they likely were let off after being found guilty. Please, let's stop believing there will ever be a sea change about this **** with the public. There won't.

That's thinking too short term.

Talking about the three employees defines the wrong time scale. The real time scale is 2007 to 2014 to ???? (maybe going back to 2001) not just 2014 or 2015.

This is about the perils of being the best, in today's society. That's the narrative that needs to be changed, that it is possible to be competitive without being a jerk.

 

[Jackson 2]

That's thinking too short term.

Talking about the three employees defines the wrong time scale. The real time scale is 2007 to 2014 to ???? (maybe going back to 2001) not just 2014 or 2015.

This is about the perils of being the best, in today's society. That's the narrative that needs to be changed, that it is possible to be competitive without being a jerk.

You're preaching to the choir. I don't disagree with your logic. However, there has been nothing logical about this entire **** show since it started in September of 2007.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

15 minutes doesn't sound like much of an interrogation.