Patriots Go 16-0

[bakes781]

Answer me this about the 1972 Dolphins. What was the won-loss percentage of their regular season opponents? If I recall correctly, it was sub-.400.

How can you downplay that accomplishment? I may love the Sox too, but that doesn't mean I can't respect what the Yankees have done this season.

 

[shmessy]

How can you downplay that accomplishment? I may love the Sox too, but that doesn't mean I can't respect what the Yankees have done this season.

I have tremendous respect for what they did. I also would be very interested to see the details to get a better understanding of that achievement.

You made a statement about how hard it was for the Dolphins to travel up North 3 hours to play the 1972 Bills, Jets, Colts and Patriots. The answer to my question will fill in the blanks you left in your statement.

My guess is that The SF 49ers would have salivated over traveling 5 hours (it was 6 back then) to play those teams on the road and given them their home games to play on the road also.

 

[shmessy]

Answer: Avg w-l-t for the 14 teams (4 of them twice):

5-8.71-.29.....a winning pct of .357. I guess I remebered that correctly.

Outside of games that those teams lost to the Dolphins, they were .385

 

[feelthepain]

I have tremendous respect for what they did. I also would be very interested to see the details to get a better understanding of that achievement.

You made a statement about how hard it was for the Dolphins to travel up North 3 hours to play the 1972 Bills, Jets, Colts and Patriots. The answer to my question will fill in the blanks you left in your statement.

My guess is that The SF 49ers would have salivated over traveling 5 hours (it was 6 back then) to play those teams on the road and given them their home games to play on the road also.

How about the fact that also during that undefeated season Miam had to use their backup QB Earl Moral for much of the season because Bob Griese had a broken leg and didn't return till the playoffs, or the fact that Miami had two 1000 yard RB's and one that ran for 500 in that season. Even though the Pats have 0 chance of going undefeated with a healthy Brady do you think if Brady goes down the Pats will go undefeated????

 

[shmessy]

How about the fact that also during that undefeated season Miam had to use their backup QB Earl Moral for much of the season because Bob Griese had a broken leg and didn't return till the playoffs, or the fact that Miami had two 1000 yard RB's and one that ran for 500 in that season. Even though the Pats have 0 chance of going undefeated with a healthy Brady do you think if Brady goes down the Pats will go undefeated????

Once again, all that is testament to the COMPETITION they faced. If the Pats face a schedule this year of .357 teams then I'm sure both Dillon and Maroney could possibly (not definitely, possibly) have 1000 yard seasons with Faulk at 700. But there is better competition in the NFL today with the salary cap etc. so .357 is almost out of the question.

Once again, I'm not saying it wasn't a great accomplishment, it was. But comparing the NFL of 1972 to that of today's is ludicrous. They are two completely different universes. The Dolphins definitely set the bar for the 1970's NFL.

 

[Pats67]

That is my honest assesment and if I am wrong I will come back and eat crow. But when I am right, I will be here to serve out about a thousand plates of hot steamy crow.

Well, you're serving something hot and steamy, and fowl, but it doesn't smell like crow to me.

 

[Welker83]

The patriots will be next undefeated football team. They are going to be unbeatable this season, and will march through the playoffs and once again be the superbowl champions. Bill belechick will be named the best coach ever in national football leauge history. What are your predictions and where do you see the pats finishing this season.

And then the acid wore off... OK let me put it this way...NO WAY!

And it's not even a knock on your team. It's the way BB coaches. If the Pats are sitting at 14-0 (somehow)and have won the division and all the home field advantage then he is going to start sitting starters and coast through the last few games. He did it last year and he will do it again...

 

[Ring 6]

How about the fact that also during that undefeated season Miam had to use their backup QB Earl Moral for much of the season because Bob Griese had a broken leg and didn't return till the playoffs, or the fact that Miami had two 1000 yard RB's and one that ran for 500 in that season. Even though the Pats have 0 chance of going undefeated with a healthy Brady do you think if Brady goes down the Pats will go undefeated????

Not a fair comparision because the Qb position is much more vital today than it was then. The Dolphins only threw the ball about 15 times a game (IIRC, the average in the league was about 19-20 times a game that season).
The early 70s was football dominated by the run. The 00s are dominated by the pass.
If the 72 Dolphins were capable of going undefeated today, the impact of losing their QB would be 100 times was it was then,

 

[Jacky Roberts]

And then the acid wore off... OK let me put it this way...NO WAY!

And it's not even a knock on your team. It's the way BB coaches. If the Pats are sitting at 14-0 (somehow)and have won the division and all the home field advantage then he is going to start sitting starters and coast through the last few games. He did it last year and he will do it again...

I dont think anyone will ever go undefeated again. Anyone who disagrees doesn't understand 21st century football.

 

[feelthepain]

Not a fair comparision because the Qb position is much more vital today than it was then. The Dolphins only threw the ball about 15 times a game (IIRC, the average in the league was about 19-20 times a game that season).
The early 70s was football dominated by the run. The 00s are dominated by the pass.
If the 72 Dolphins were capable of going undefeated today, the impact of losing their QB would be 100 times was it was then,

If what you're saying is true then why didn't the Steelers ever go undefeated or the Packers?? Fact is the era doesn't matter because the talent in 72 was not an edge for just the 72 Dolphins. Teams that faced the Dolphins in 72 knew they were going to run the ball week in and week out, all the defense had to do was focus on the running game, today teams have to be far more balaenced. Every team in 72 was getting their talent from the same talent pool as the 2006 talent pool, it wasn't like the 72 Dolphins had the talented players of 2006 while everyone else had the talent of players from 72, in other words the Dolphins in 72 didn't have an edge on everyone else when setting up their roster. The whole reason FA was created was to create parody, that's the biggest reason teams will no longer have the chance to go undefeated.

 

[shmessy]

If what you're saying is true then why didn't the Steelers ever go undefeated or the Packers?? Fact is the era doesn't matter because the talent in 72 was not an edge for just the 72 Dolphins. Every team in 72 was getting their talent from the same talent pool as the 2006 talent pool, it wasn't like the 72 Dolphins had the talented players of 2006 while everyone else had the talent of players from 72. The whole reason FA was created was to create parody, that's the biggest reason teams will no longer have the chance to go undefeated.

"Parody" is a Phins fan claiming FA leveled the field.

"Parity" is what ensued after the salary cap was adopted by the NFL.

 

[Kdo5]

Pats SB's = More impressive than Dolphins undefeated season.

There is one huge reason...SALARY CAP.

 

[borg]

Sep 10 Buffalo 35-3 w
Sep 17 @N.Y. Jets 24-7w
Sep 24 Denver 21-20w
Oct 1 @Cincinnati 42-21w
Oct 8 Miami 17-7w
Week 6 BYE
Oct 22 @Buffalo 24-10w
Oct 30 @Minnesota 27-14w
Nov 5 Indianapolis 27-17w
Nov 12 N.Y. Jets 35-0w
Nov 19 @Green Bay 31-6w
Nov 26 Chicago 14-3w
Dec 3 Detroit 31-3w
Dec 10 @Miami 14-17L
Dec 17 Houston 24-10w
Dec 24 @Jacksonville 28-6w
Dec 31 @Tennessee 31-7w 15-1 Record

Playoffs

1st round bye
Indy 21-13W
Miami 17-0w
Super Bowl
Pats 35 Giants 10

 

[JR4]

For those posters that don't like to consider stuff like this
Realize this just for fun so don't get your panties in a bunch.

JUST press your BACK BUTTON and ignor this thread.

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As I was looking at the schedule ... I thought of this thread.

Of course going 16-0 in a season is one in a million but it can happen.

Consider: Suppose PATs are 5-0 at the Bye.

I see two teams that could prevent the 16-0 in the remainder of the season
... Colts and Dolphins.
( sure there could be upsets but if a loss comes it most likely will be from
on of these two teams. Bears are there but they got to show they can
score significat points against a very good defense)
Colts play at the blade and their running game has dropped off so the advantage is to the PATs
The Miami game is at Miami and this could be the one that does it.

But to be 5-0 at the bye ... PATs have three teams that are going to be
tough to beat not that they won't but a loss can surely come from any one
of these three : Denver, Bengals and Miami.
The Denver game is at Foxboro and PATs should be pumped to play their
best game. Advantage - PATs
The Miami game is at the PATs and again the advantage should be PATs.

That leaves Bengals at the Bengals ... If there is only one loss in the first
five games it most likely be this one. However some good news here ...
Bengals will be without one of their starting LBers.
Also it is the 4th week .. which means PATs D should have ironed out
most of D issues they may have had and By this time Jackson should be
back, healthy and may have even had a game or two under his belt.

So I'm guessing the two most critical Games for PATs if they are
undefeated at the time they play these teams will be the Bengals
and Miami in December.

Also to go 16-0 PATs will need to NOT have any critical injuries and need
the ball to bonuce the right way a few times. We all realize how hard it is to
go 16-0 but this team looks good enough that they at least have a good
shot at it.

 

[Aqua4Ever04]

I may take some heat for this.But Really.I think Miami has shot at 11-5 this year.I really havent sat down and taken a look at the schedule,But Nick Saban isnt half bad at coaching.They do still have some talent.God,Now I have to go wash out my mouth with soap.

WOW! A first! A Patriots fan who actully knows that there is another team other than the Pats. I would have to agree with you, 11 wins sounds about right for the Fins. I also think the Pats will win 10 or 11 as well. I see it being the best divisional race in the NFL this year. Hopefully it's not, but I think it will be.