Patriots Among Tops In Drafting 1st team All-Pro Selections

[1960Pats]

Well, yeah, but how many all pros has he picked in the last, say 5 years compared to other teams in the last 5 years.

Stretching the list out to 20 years is a bit silly. Sh!t, why stop at 20 years? Why not 30? Or 40?

This is Bill's 24th year with the team so the proper amount of time would be 23 years.

 

[1960Pats]

The Author needs to be more specific as the Pats, 49ers and Cowboys had 13 total players making 1st team All Pro. Chiefs and Ravens had 12. Chargers had 8.

The list should be players in general, making it on the team that drafted them and not how many times they made it.

If a player goes on to win an award with another team isn't that a negative on the team that let him go? If the team got something for the player that's different, but none of the FA's who leave would be in that category.

 

[archstanton543]

This is Bill's 24th year with the team so the proper amount of time would be 23 years.

And how many guys did he draft in the last 5-10 years were all-pros?

I'll hang up and listen.

 

[203Pat]

Not accurate. It's much more.

Tom-3
Slater-2
Gronk 4
Sey 3
Wes- 2
Gost- 2
Logan -1
Marcus Jones- 1
Vince -1
Light -1
Mayo -1
Bailey -1
Asante -1

Gunner is another but was a UFA -1

Thats 24.

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Seems like other than a punter and a return specialist it has been a while.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Seems like other than a punter and a return specialist it has been a while.

Yea that's an issue.

 

[203Pat]

Yea that's an issue.

In a division with Stefon Diggs, Tyreek Hill, Jaylen Waddle, and Garrett Wilson hopefully Christian Gonzalez can be the next guy on the list.

 

[RobertWeathers]

In a division with Stefon Diggs, Tyreek Hill, Jaylen Waddle, and Garrett Wilson hopefully Christian Gonzalez can be the next guy on the list.

Thankfully they have picked up All-Pros via trade and UFA.

But agree. They need to be better and drafting and developing blue-chippers

 

[1960Pats]

And how many guys did he draft in the last 5-10 years were all-pros?

I'll hang up and listen.

I don't know and I don't care how many of "his" guys received some meaningless (to me) award.
All I am saying is that if anyone's going to judge Bill they should count all of his years.

 

[archstanton543]

I don't know and I don't care how many of "his" guys received some meaningless (to me) award.
All I am saying is that if anyone's going to judge Bill they should count all of his years.

It's not meaningless. The players all want to be all-pros (or even to make it to the Pro Bowl) because it triggers incentives in their contracts. All Pros are the consensus best players at their position in a given year. It carries more weight than an Pro Bowl nod for a reason.

 

[1960Pats]

It's not meaningless. The players all want to be all-pros (or even to make it to the Pro Bowl) because it triggers incentives in their contracts. All Pros are the consensus best players at their position in a given year. It carries more weight than an Pro Bowl nod for a reason.

It may be meaningful to their wallets, but that only makes it more of a popularity contest or political. There also seems to be a HOF bias toward ex-players working in the media. I really don't care how many awards players get, even if it means more money to them. How a player performs for my team is what's most important.

 

[Pats2000]

BB has absolutely sucked at drafting WR. I think that clouds the rest of his draft capability

Lol @Tunescribe , you disagree with this statement. Or you just butt hurt over my dislike

 

[Tunescribe]

Lol @Tunescribe , you disagree with this statement. Or you just butt hurt over my dislike

Nothing -- absolutely nothing you could say or do -- would ever make me "butthurt." You simply know little about NFL football and illustrate it with "I think" applied to things like condemning BB's drafting capability. My parrot has forgotten more about the game than you'll learn the rest of your life.

 

[Pats2000]

Nothing -- absolutely nothing you could say or do -- would ever make me "butthurt." You simply know little about NFL football and illustrate it with "I think" applied to things like condemning BB's drafting capability. My parrot has forgotten more about the game than you'll learn the rest of your life.

I dislike this post. But on another note, let the butt hurt flow through you.

You never answered my question about BB and his success ar drafting WR, pirate Steve.

 

[Tunescribe]

I dislike this post. But on another note, let the butt hurt flow through you.

Aw heck, you dislike my post? Let the butthurt flow through you.

You never answered my question about BB and his success ar drafting WR, pirate Steve.

I answered the question you asked me, SFB. But going forward you might seek remedial assistance before bothering folks with further inane questions, comments, etc. Consider starting here:

 

[slash83]

Added another one in CG!

 

[Toofy]

I think this stats makes us look good than what we really are. Brady and Gronk do skew it great extent .

Today the key positions are QB, WR, ED, Offensive line and CB.

Our first pros in those positions the last 5 -7 years are pretty bad if you exclude Brady.


Our draft till groh came along really sucked bad. 2011- 2019 were rank bad. Few hits here and there. Thats it. Very few home run picks .

Onwenu, Dugger , uche have probably limited the damage from 2020.

 

[Tunescribe]

He gets alot of flack from the long line of WR bust.. I feel that overshadows how good of a Drafter he's been.. however 17 players.. since 2k.. pretty good..

This "BB can't draft wide receivers" canard is just that. When a team perennially drafts at or near the end of each round, confirmed playmakers at that position become scarce. Even then, BB drafted significant WR contributors a la Branch, Mitchell, Edelman, Meyers and Givens. It helps to remember that the likes of Harry, Chad Jackson, etc. were highly touted draft prospects on other teams' draft boards. They weren't considered risky picks at the time and there was no way of knowing beforehand they wouldn't work out. Just bad luck. Finally, BB has done a good job over the years filling the void at that position with dependable veteran pickups -- Welker, Moss, Amendola, Patten, LaFell, Stallworth, etc.

 

[Real fan 02]

This "BB can't draft wide receivers" canard is just that. When a team perennially drafts at or near the end of each round, confirmed playmakers at that position become scarce. Even then, BB drafted significant WR contributors a la Branch, Mitchell, Edelman, Meyers and Givens. It helps to remember that the likes of Harry, Chad Jackson, etc. were highly touted draft prospects on other teams' draft boards. They weren't considered risky picks at the time and there was no way of knowing beforehand they wouldn't work out. Just bad luck. Finally, BB has done a good job over the years filling the void at that position with dependable veteran pickups -- Welker, Moss, Amendola, Patten, LaFell, Stallworth, etc.

I'll agree, overall as a GM/coach he has done a masterful job with drafting and developing players. I remember Curran reporting that BB was ignoring the team's drafting scouts and prefering to go with who he felt was best. Who knows? There may be some truth to that.. what's allowed the team to be able have misses in wich all teams do is.. we had the most humble superstar in sports that was a born Leader, and willed his team's to wins years in and out regardless who he had to throw too. That was what allowed the franchise not to become like other teams. One player I really liked and it's unfortunate was Malcom Mitchell to bad the knee injuries ended his promising career. N'Keal Harry asked for a trade as it was mentioned his issues were all related to his attitude wich affected his play So I can't say I put that one so much on BB persay.

 

[RobertWeathers]

One player I really liked and it's unfortunate was Malcom Mitchell to bad the knee injuries ended his promising career. N'Keal Harry asked for a trade as it was mentioned his issues were all related to his attitude wich affected his play So I can't say I put that one so much on BB persay.

MM's shortened -career was a damn shame.

Harry was bust and that's on Bill.

 

[Real fan 02]

MM's shortened -career was a damn shame.

Harry was bust and that's on Bill.

Was a dam shame... kid was one of Brady's go to guys by playoff time. As for harry, yeah BB selected him... but u know as he says.. it's what u do when u get here..

Harry's attitude is what held him back, not his ability I'm sure that's the case without alot of players drafted high.. they feel a sense of entitlement.