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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.That was genuine joy. Very happy for himlove it, Petey is right there with him
Ortiz, Bonds, and Clemens should all be in.Congrats to him. It's well deserved, and I hope he parties his ass off tonight.
But, on the other hand, it's unconscionable that he's in and Clemens is not.
This isn't directed at you, just a rant in general.I just want A-Rod out of the Hall. The rest, I‘m not passionate about it either way. A-Rod doesn’t belong…there’s definitely context. Getting an edge with PEDs was the norm in the 90s. It was common knowledge McGwire was pushing the limits of the rules. No one cared that he was on roids. However, at some point in the early/mid 2000s, steroids become scandalous, and every player knew get caught would be a gigantic mark against them. So, guys who got caught after steroids became “evil”, like A-Rod, shouldn’t be in the Hall. Bonds and Clemens…I honestly don’t know. I think keeping them out of the Hall isn’t really a good solution…if they‘re proven to have violated the rules, their stats amd awards should be stripped from those seasons, but they should both still get in.
when you go look at the stats it’s hard to fathom how dominate Bonds was over those 4 years. like you see the numbers in front of you, but you still have trouble believing themThis isn't directed at you, just a rant in general.
The thing with Bonds and Clemens is that they would still have gone down as top 10 players/pitchers before they supposedly started juicing. I think people forget just how good 90's Bonds was because of the whole steroid thing. Between 1990-1998 he led the league in WAR 7 times. His OPS+ over that span was 180. For more modern guys, we all know how good 2001-2009 Pujols and current Trout are, right? 2001-2009 Pujols led in WAR 5 times and had a 172 OPS+. 2012-2020 Trout led in WAR 5 times and had a 178 OPS+. Post-1998 Bonds with a normal decline still ends as a top 5/10 position player ever. But he got pissed that lesser players were juicing and getting the attention so he wanted to show the baseball world what would happen when all-time great starts taking stuff. 2001-2004 Bonds is the most dominant athlete in the four major sports. Ever. It's estimated that over half and perhaps as high as 80% of the league was on something during this time. Did Bonds have access to "super" PEDs that the other guys didn't?
Ortiz took them. It's extremely likely that Ivan Rodriguez, Bagwell, and Piazza did. They're all in, as they should be. Bonds and Clemens should also be in.
Bonds and Clemens aren't in because they were d!cks, no other reason. There's many more users in the Hall besides they three that you mention. Put 'em in.Ortiz took them. It's extremely likely that Ivan Rodriguez, Bagwell, and Piazza did. They're all in, as they should be. Bonds and Clemens should also be in.
This isn't directed at you, just a rant in general.
The thing with Bonds and Clemens is that they would still have gone down as top 10 players/pitchers before they supposedly started juicing. I think people forget just how good 90's Bonds was because of the whole steroid thing. Between 1990-1998 he led the league in WAR 7 times. His OPS+ over that span was 180. For more modern guys, we all know how good 2001-2009 Pujols and current Trout are, right? 2001-2009 Pujols led in WAR 5 times and had a 172 OPS+. 2012-2020 Trout led in WAR 5 times and had a 178 OPS+. Post-1998 Bonds with a normal decline still ends as a top 5/10 position player ever. But he got pissed that lesser players were juicing and getting the attention so he wanted to show the baseball world what would happen when all-time great starts taking stuff. 2001-2004 Bonds is the most dominant athlete in the four major sports. Ever. It's estimated that over half and perhaps as high as 80% of the league was on something during this time. Did Bonds have access to "super" PEDs that the other guys didn't?
Ortiz took them. It's extremely likely that Ivan Rodriguez, Bagwell, and Piazza did. They're all in, as they should be. Bonds and Clemens should also be in.
But, on the other hand, it's unconscionable that he's in and Clemens is not.
Yes, it is, particularly with Clemens.No it isn't.
And I would NEVER have voted for Bagwell either.