Our Best 25 on offense: 2 QB's, 4 RB's

[mgteich]

The Practice Squad is the place for two of Gutierrez, Hoyer and Edleman, and also the place for a developmental running back or two.

We say we want to keep the best 53. It seems that Slater, Aiken and Ventrone are all valuable on special teams as roster players.

OFFENSE (25)
QB (2) Brady, O'Connell
RB (4) Taylor, Faulk, Morris, Maroney
WR (7) Moss, Welker, Galloway, Lewis, Slater, Aiken, Ventrone
TE (3) Watson, Baker, Smith
OT (4) Light, Kaczur, LeVoir, Vollmer
OG/C (5) Mankins, Koppen, Neal, Hochstein, Ohrnberger

 

[JSn]

What about making Edelman QB#2 so we can use him as a WR? We can still call in O'Connell if Brady goes down, right?

 

[mgteich]

1) Edleman is not more valuable than Ventrone.
2) Why do you want Edleman as the #4 receiver in 4-receiver set instead of Faulk, Lewis or Watson? If Edleman is an effective WR, he will need to beat out Lewis for a roster spot.
3) I don't believe the #3 QB can come in unless both QB's are injured, except in the 4th quarter where there are no restrictions. Someone can correct me if I am in error. After all, the EMERGENCY roster spot is just that.

What about making Edelman QB#2 so we can use him as a WR? We can still call in O'Connell if Brady goes down, right?

 

[JSn]

1) Edleman is not more valuable than Ventrone.
2) Why do you want Edleman as the #4 receiver in 4-receiver set instead of Faulk, Lewis or Watson? If Edleman is an effective WR, he will need to beat out Lewis for a roster spot.
3) I don't believe the #3 QB can come in unless both QB's are injured, except in the 4th quarter where there are no restrictions. Someone can correct me if I am in error. After all, the EMERGENCY roster spot is just that.

Isn't it Edelman who's supposed to have game as a KR?

 

[mgteich]

- not so much that he is worth a roster spot

As I said in the last post, Edleman's best shot is to beat out Lewis for a roster spot, presuming that Tate isn't ready for the season (in which case the spot is his).

We have Maroney and Faulk as our primary kick returners. Wheatley and Butler are returners, as is Lewis. There may be more.

We will all have our binkies among the 5th, 6th, 7th rounders and UDFA's, and maybe one or two might make the team. Barring injuries, it seems doubtful. Even with injuries, there is a remarkable amount of depth without these players.

These players are primarily competing for Practice Squad positions and hoping they can show enough to make positions where there are openings, as Guyton did last year. But there are really no openings, except at LB where Appleby is our early binky.

Isn't it Edelman who's supposed to have game as a KR?

 

[patchick]

What about making Edelman QB#2 so we can use him as a WR? We can still call in O'Connell if Brady goes down, right?

Why call him a QB at all if he's not going to play QB? (And at 5'10", he's not.)

 

[Headcase]

1)
3) I don't believe the #3 QB can come in unless both QB's are injured, except in the 4th quarter where there are no restrictions. Someone can correct me if I am in error. After all, the EMERGENCY roster spot is just that.

He can come in and play at any point, but once he does the #1 and #2 can't return. If the Emergency QB comes in during the 4th, others can return.

SSDD

 

[mgteich]

Thanks for the correction.

It would seem unreasonable to put in your emergency QB (unless 2 QB's were injured) before the 4th and then have no backup QB.

He can come in and play at any point, but once he does the #1 and #2 can't return. If the Emergency QB comes in during the 4th, others can return.

SSDD

 

[patsfanofNC12]

Does anybody have an idea as to when Tate should be ready, even what month are time period? Will he be ready for the season?

 

[mgteich]

The best guess here seems to be that he will start the season on the PUP list and hopefully be available at mid-season.

Does anybody have an idea as to when Tate should be ready, even what month are time period? Will he be ready for the season?

 

[BradyManny]

The Practice Squad is the place for two of Gutierrez, Hoyer and Edleman, and also the place for a developmental running back or two.

We say we want to keep the best 53. It seems that Slater, Aiken and Ventrone are all valuable on special teams as roster players.

OFFENSE (25)
QB (2) Brady, O'Connell
RB (4) Taylor, Faulk, Morris, Maroney
WR (7) Moss, Welker, Galloway, Lewis, Slater, Aiken, Ventrone
TE (3) Watson, Baker, Smith
OT (4) Light, Kaczur, LeVoir, Vollmer
OG/C (5) Mankins, Koppen, Neal, Hochstein, Ohrnberger

I think your point about Gutes/Hoyer/Edelman is a good one. If we can carry 2 QBs on the 53, have some guys on the PS and potentially a vet on speed dial, I think we're all set. O'C is the backup QB, and god forbid something happens to Brady again, but we'd have to go with O'C and I think that'd be alright.

I personally doubt that all 3 of Slater/Aiken/Ventrone will all make the team, I'd say realistically 1 or 2 makes it, but you never know what happens in TC injury-wise, so that could change. There are too many young guys getting added to the mix who are experienced in ST in college as well. Besides, for all the ST specialists we had last year, our ST performance was not great in any category.

 

[Jimke]

The Practice Squad is the place for two of Gutierrez, Hoyer and Edleman, and also the place for a developmental running back or two.

We say we want to keep the best 53. It seems that Slater, Aiken and Ventrone are all valuable on special teams as roster players.

OFFENSE (25)
QB (2) Brady, O'Connell
RB (4) Taylor, Faulk, Morris, Maroney
WR (7) Moss, Welker, Galloway, Lewis, Slater, Aiken, Ventrone
TE (3) Watson, Baker, Smith
OT (4) Light, Kaczur, LeVoir, Vollmer
OG/C (5) Mankins, Koppen, Neal, Hochstein, Ohrnberger

My only argument with the above list is having 7 wide receivers and
4 running backs. Green-Ellis would be good insurance for injury prone
running backs Maroney and Morris.

The only other running backs on the current 80 man roster are Cuff,
Kettani, and White and the latter two are probably slated for Navy duty.

 

[Pats726]

My only argument with the above list is having 7 wide receivers and
4 running backs. Green-Ellis would be good insurance for injury prone
running backs Maroney and Morris.

The only other running backs on the current 80 man roster are Cuff,
Kettani, and White and the latter two are probably slated for Navy duty.

I tend to agree about Green-Ellis on the 53...but probably being inactive. The four RBs are not that durable...Faulk has had injuries (not recently) and Morris, Maroney and Taylor all have had many. But I do like the idea of the STers...unless others can beat out Aiken, Slater and Ventrone...they are keepers. Also like the idea of 2 QBs..

 

[mgteich]

I think that we've usually started the season with 3-4 running backs on the 53 man roster, no five. I'm not counting the fullback position, since our fullback was usually a STer and had almost no carries. I'm also not counting players who started on the PUP list since they weren't on the 53.

One of Maroney or Morris is already our backup.

So, the question is whether we should have five running backs on the starting 53. When was the last time we did that?

I tend to agree about Green-Ellis on the 53...but probably being inactive. The four RBs are not that durable...Faulk has had injuries (not recently) and Morris, Maroney and Taylor all have had many. But I do like the idea of the STers...unless others can beat out Aiken, Slater and Ventrone...they are keepers. Also like the idea of 2 QBs..

 

[supafly]

Do they usually carry 7 WR's?

 

[mgteich]

Some would feel better if I said that we were carrying 4 receivers and 3 Special Team specialists. But then, some would say I didn't have enough wide receivers.

Last year, Aiken, Ventrone and Slater all made the team and were usually listed as wide receivers. Also, special teamer Washington was listed as a wide receiver. Gaffney and Washington were replaced by Galloway and Lewis, so the numbers are the same as last year.

Do they usually carry 7 WR's?

 

[mayoclinic]

The Practice Squad is the place for two of Gutierrez, Hoyer and Edleman, and also the place for a developmental running back or two.

We say we want to keep the best 53. It seems that Slater, Aiken and Ventrone are all valuable on special teams as roster players.

OFFENSE (25)
QB (2) Brady, O'Connell
RB (4) Taylor, Faulk, Morris, Maroney
WR (7) Moss, Welker, Galloway, Lewis, Slater, Aiken, Ventrone
TE (3) Watson, Baker, Smith
OT (4) Light, Kaczur, LeVoir, Vollmer
OG/C (5) Mankins, Koppen, Neal, Hochstein, Ohrnberger

Nice list.

I completely agree about the OLs, though I hope Vollmer will show starting potential sooner rather than later. I've always liked Kaczur as a swing OT more than as a starting RT - he's adequate, but Vollmer has the potential to be dominant. Kaczur will never be dominant. I also agree with your 3 TE's - I think that Thomas draws the short stick. I think he and Smith will fight it out for the #3 spot, but I see Smith having more upside and being a better blocker and more complete TE. I wonder whether me might be able to get anything from him in a trade, vs. a straight cut.

I also agree about 25 players on offense, leaving 13 spots for QB, WR and RB. I'm not sure how those will get divided up. There's a lot of talent for those 13 spots. 2 QBs makes me nervous, but we've done it before. Is Gut still PS eligible, and do we think he would make it through to the PS? Not sure if Hoyer would make it through either? I don't see Edelman as a QB option, though if he makes it as a WR/STer than it gives us a little bit of emergency flexibility (not that I'd want to see us ever exercise it).

I think that BB will let Aiken/Slater/Ventrone/Green-Ellis/Edelman battle it out in TC for 3 roster spots. The first 4 have a year of roster experience behind them, but Edelman brings nice versatility and athleticism. I could see him beating out Slater, but we won't know for 4 more months.

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

O'C is the backup QB, and god forbid something happens to Brady again, but we'd have to go with O'C and I think that'd be alright.

At 6'7" 330 O'Callaghan has size to spare, but does he have the arm? I'd much rather see how O'Connell progresses in preseason.

 

[patchick]

Is Gut still PS eligible

I wouldn't think so...he now has 2 accrued seasons, which should render him ineligible regardless of how many games he was active. But I've been wrong before, there are peculiar interpretations at the outer reaches of PS eligibility.

 

[BradyManny]

At 6'7" 330 O'Callaghan has size to spare, but does he have the arm?

I'm not sure, but I think we're going to run the Wildcat if we have to use him anyway...